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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 1:01 pm
Thread:
Goalscorer options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>He would have to be out of his mind to ask for him after the kind of production that Laine has put up this year</div></div>
Torts has a tendency to depress offensive numbers these days, and FLA has a tendency to goose offensive numbers.
I think Laine could really thrive down south.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 11:57 am
Thread:
GET RYAN MURRAY
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>You need at least 5</div></div>
Vehvilainen! One more...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 10:33 am
Thread:
GET RYAN MURRAY
Nash, Foligno, then Murray.
CBJ North.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 10:31 am
Thread:
What would it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mulletmario7</b></div><div>Yeah a torts departure would be huge for Laine. I just know CBJ has had issues retaining superstars in the past and wonder if torts has soured Laine to CBJ. It's more speculation then anything</div></div>
All of the “superstars” but Ryan Johansen have left during the Torts era. His contract is up after this year, and he likely isn’t re-signed. CBJ probably pull a one year deal with Laine to see if it was just Torts, and go from there.
But yeah, only way Laine is traded this TDL or offseason is if someone steps up with a serious overpayment. Think along the lines of what they would’ve gotten originally for PLD+.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 10:25 am
Thread:
Chuck keeps his job
CBJ are likely looking for Centers, not Wingers. Plus, would need that 2nd to be a 1st. They’d also ask to swap out Zamula for a different, high-end prospect, most likely.
Not to mention, they’d be trading him to a team that, starting next year, they are back in the same division with.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 9:03 am
Thread:
Hmmm
Wut.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 8:38 am
Thread:
finding suitors
Not a fan of the EDM trade. A bottom-6 winger and a goalie prospect when we already have Tarasov getting close. Would need to improve the pick or the prospects.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 12 at 12:22
Thread:
if THAT was the price for Hall
I mean, ya ain’t wrong.
But idk...never been a big Hall fan. Is it weird that trade feels like a lose-lose?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 11 at 11:43
Thread:
Columbus is going to win the Foligno trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>That's the exact thing Tampa said about the Savard trade.</div></div>
That’s the exact thing every team says about every trade every deadline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 11 at 11:39
Thread:
Buffalo Blockbuster
NGL, if I’m CBJ, not sure I even want to trade for Eichel.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 11 at 6:51
Thread:
TDL Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsHairline</b></div><div>They have literally no center depth at all, thats were my logic was coming from!</div></div>
It’s not lack of center depth. They actually have that pretty well covered. Their problem is lack of high-end centers.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 11 at 2:18
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Wait. You thought someone said Seattle would give up something to get Oshie? No. I just think they'd claim in in the expansion draft over Jensen or Schultz who have decent offense this year but usually don't, and over Vanecek who has a lot of wins behind a team with a great offense but who is otherwise really unproven.</div></div>
Yeah man, I think that’s our miscommunication here haha - I was reacting to Beetlejuice’s comment up there about having to pay SEA to take his contract. Simply a question of how much WAS would have to “pay,” if at all, I guess.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 11 at 2:05
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Who's the guy Oshie's age that Dallas signed for a bigger cap hit and similar term, right before their trip to the Finals?</div></div>
...one year left on Pavelski’s contract is not the same as five years left on Oshie’s. And I mean, yeah, you’re talking about a high gamble to sign a player that age to a contract like that. It’s definitely the exception rather than the rule.
Again, it’s not saying Oshie is awful or has no chance of adding value on this contract. It’s just that the risk of lost value rises each season; being contract bound to that risk for 1-3 years is easier to justify than 5.
I’m just saying SEA doesn’t have incentive to give up serious assets for Oshie.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 11 at 12:55
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>As far as averages, sure. You're right. But Ron Francis is making the call. Can you name a player who will be available in the expansion draft whose game more closely resembles Ron Francis as a hockey player?
If anyone knows that some guys stay effective at both ends of the ice until they're 40, that's the guy.
If Pittsburgh had worried about Francis being in his '30s, would John Cullen and Zarley Zalapski have carried them to any championships?</div></div>
If my GM is constructing my roster based on what worked for NHL teams in the 80’s and 90’s, I’m worried.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 11 at 10:29
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Oshie's tied for 60th in points in the NHL today with William Nylander, Roope Hintz, Tyler Toffoli, Clayton Keller, and Zach Hyman. He's on pace for a 62 point season, if there were 82 games. He's also the best faceoff guy in the Caps' top-six, and he plays both special teams. His remaining salary averages $4.9M/year, so even if he slips to 40-50 points, it's fairly reasonable, to a team with cap space that wants a leader.
If the Caps can convince any team to give Oshie and his 4.9M remaining average salary a shot at 5.75M cap hit, then after trading Vrana and Hagelin, they have more than enough cap space for Laine's QO, provided Ovechkin and Samsonov don't get much of a raise. But the above trade is a loss for Washington.
Since the 2018 offseason. Vrana has scored 41% more even strength goals than Laine. Vrana has seven times as many even strength playoff points as Laine, seven to one, career. He's played more games, but not seven times more games. Laine's QO is 166% higher than Vrana's. Under a flat cap, Vrana for Laine is confusing.
Van Riemsdyk and Hagelin are pretty good at defense and penalty killing and have won Stanley Cups in Chicago and Pittsburgh. They have some trade value. Maybe not a lot, but some. I mean, Hagelin's corsi and points/60 are the same as Foligno's this year, and Jackets fans want a 1st for Foligno at twice Hagelin's cap hit. So Hagelin alone should be worth more than a 1st to Columbus? I agree. Take Vrana out of this and throw in Panik or Oshie.
Lapierre is arguably the Caps' best prospect, since he was widely hyped as a top-10 guy for last year's draft until a scary neck injury let him fall to wherever the Caps picked. This year he came back and played his team's full season, scoring 1.5 points per game. He's back on track to be a top six center and the main piece in a Laine trade, along with a 1st and a roster player or two.
Vrana for Laine is fair. Hagelin, Lapierre, and a 1st for Laine is fair. This is a fair trade for two Laines. Does Columbus have another one?</div></div>
Again, I’d take this trade for Laine, FWIW.
And re: Oshie, it’s not that he isn’t productive right now, it’s that he’s 34 and signed for five more seasons. If I’m SEA, I’d love to have him, but practically, my concern isn’t his productivity as a 34 year old, it’s his productivity as a 37, 38, and 39 year old. He might be tied for 60th in points, but even those guys you cited are all, what, on average a decade younger than him?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like CBJ bribing VGK to take Clarkson, but I’m not certain SEA decides to do WSH a favor and just pluck Oshie without something coming back, probably.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 11 at 6:54
Thread:
2122 Oilers
CBJ decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 11:17
Thread:
busiest seller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>I mean the Russo tweet is reasonable backing. Maybe my price is a bit steep here. I think CBJ just required an overpay to move their captain.</div></div>
I don’t think it’ll require an overpay, per se. They just won’t trade him for a bag of pucks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 11:03
Thread:
busiest seller
If CBJ can get a 1st out of anyone for Foligno, that’s a win. Anything else is icing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 10:22
Thread:
Laines Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Not sure how Jets managed to have a positive outcome with two awful situations in Trouba and Laine. Seems like they are happy with how the move went. Dubois hasn’t been amazing, but he’s been a lot more consistent and light years better defensively. Is it safe to say that both teams kind of lost in the Laine and Dubois deal?</div></div>
You’re not wrong. But for The Shift, CBJ likely would’ve held onto Dubois for a bit longer, fished around for the right deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 10:16
Thread:
Trading From CBJ POV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Had a great season in Harvard last season...but not playing due this season.(Covid) IMO smallest collegiate players...not good NHL prospects.</div></div>
TJ Tynan 2.0 then, got it.
CBJ pass.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 10 at 10:14
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>I guess, but if I'm Seattle I want a 1st plus to take that contract. Dude is still under contract for 4 years after this one and is already past 30.</div></div>
Oh mos def...didn’t mean to imply they would take him for pennies on the dollar, just that they’d like him 😂
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr 10 at 10:05
Thread:
Laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>That'd be expensive, Oshie is still under contract for a long time.</div></div>
Oshie is from WA, I’m sure he would be an instant favorite there.
And TBH, I’m inclined to like this from CBJ’s perspective. Even with Torts likely gone next year, I’m just not really here for whatever contract Laine is likely going to get next.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 10:02
Thread:
Buying key pieces
Yeah, gonna need to throw in one of Hischier or Hughes towards CBJ...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 10:00
Thread:
Trading From CBJ POV
I want to like this, save for me not knowing much about Abruzzese...he got potential?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr 10 at 8:31
Thread:
Trade deadline
CBJ accepts in a heartbeat
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