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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread: UFA Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>Laine was top-3 in team scoring each of the last two seasons in Columbus, something he only did in Winnipeg in 2016-17 and 2017-18. He had 1.000 points per game in 2021-22 and 0.945 points per game in 2023-23, which are scoring rates he never reached in Winnipeg (even during his 44 goal campaign, at 0.854 points per game). His Corsi for % has held steady or increased in his time in Columbus, while blowing his teammates out of the water.

"Trending down since Winnipeg traded him" is completely ignoring the games he's played when healthy, and plainly just false when you dive into anything beyond his injury history. He's not a playdriver, and the expectation was that he'd come to Columbus to be "the guy", but he's not that and never has been. He's a really great complimentary scorer, and has rounded out his game much more in Columbus. His health/availability to play, especially this year (where he's had a couple really fluky/dirty injuries) is entirely the reason for a bad perception. Giving up on him is a mistake, when he's been a key contributor and elite player when on the ice. Doing so when his trade value is at its lowest would be catastrophic.</div></div>

Not worth the energy to counter trade-negging.

"Here's a Laine trade."
"That's not a good Laine trade, and he's not available."
"Yes it is and yes he is."
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/821938?post_id=4819266">"But another team actually offered us a package that both teams liked."</a>
"No they didn't take this one."
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8 at 8:43 p.m.
Thread: UFA Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>No one is paying you that for Laine.
It would also not surprise me if they moved him out to make way for the mass of younger players they have. Especially with another pick looking like 4OA currently this year.
It's not easy to move 8.7 mil of cap out. CBJ would never retain on that without a serious reason to do so, just for all kind of reasons. Small market team, not wanting to pay guys to play on other teams, future cap issues etc (it is 2 years)... and a large return most likely isn't happening as few teams have the cap space.
So a large return is kind of out of the question there.
To say they wouldn't move him is kind of unrealistic. He doesn't have a future in CBJ and CBJ knows that. In 2 years he hits FA he's not coming back to CBJ and with all the young talent CBJ has there really isn't room for him. It's not like he's some Vet leader who helps the team out. He's not, and never will be that kind of player. And to move him the year after will bring the same level of return. So it's just saving the team money if they did it this year.







Robertson is no Jake, and is every bit the 3rd liner at best that Puustinen is and neither one of them belongs on a line with Sid.
The only thing that will happen is he'll get checked to the ground left and right like Sheary did. We already know Sid being the biggest player on that line isn't the best thing.</div></div>

So. Again.

This entire trade is premised on the idea of a trade centered around an asset that is not even on the market.

Yes, there are many a beneficial reason to trade Laine, but this entire loss of a trade is premised on the presupposition that he *needs* to be traded.

Not the case, my dude.

Like it said, meet the ask, or move on.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8 at 5:35 p.m.
Thread: UFA Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>You wouldn’t get a first round pick for him in a trade. What I proposed is reasonable and what you should expect. Teams are done giving away 1sts for cheap. We’ve seen that for over a year now.</div></div>

Cool! Problem is, you are trying to trade for an asset that is not even on the market.

So…why would any team trade a player at their lowest value when they are not even trying to trade them? Add in PIT’s low-end prospect pool, and ya’ll are just swimming in No’s. So, I mean, Yager+ or CBJ just say “OK” and don’t care.

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/821938?post_id=4819266">Particularly ironic when our mutual division rival offered a satisfactory trade in a ACGM right after you.</a>