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May 5, 2021
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Ok sure, but let’s even take Dickinson as a comp, since we’re looking at the canucks - he yielded a 3rd.
JD - Center, 26, 63 pts in 221 games.
JG - Wing, 24, 85 pts in 210 games.
Dickinson has a slight edge by playing center, but Greener is bigger, younger and more productive. Plus Greenway has been “trending up” from a pts perspective. So the absolute floor for JG would be no less than a 3rd. I think most agree it’s more than what Dickinson got, but I’m trying to wonder how much more. OP is proposing two 2nds, which is fairly respectable IMO.
Can we get a 1st for JG at TDL? Maybe. I don’t think it’s out of the question, but it also requires him having a decent year. I also just noticed the years of these picks, which isn’t ideal, but I still like this concept and I don’t think we can expect much more.
<a href="/users/CAPdumba" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@CAPdumba</a> — forgot to quote you
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Except that trade is **** for the Wild... Mittelstadt's value isn't worth anywhere near that, not even with the growth he showed last year. And then there's the fact this trade also treats Zuccarello as a <strong><em>negative asset</em></strong>, which he is <strong>NOT</strong>.
He came back fully healthy last season for the first time in a little over 2 years and proved he is still a highly effective top-six playmaking winger. I mean he was on pace for 60+ points last year for crying out loud. But wait, there's more! How does 7 points in 3 preseason games so far this year strike your fancy?
Mittelstadt was very nearly a bust and held just about no value whatsoever, so the fact that he's probably elevated it to around a 2nd after last season is considerable. I don't make that trade unless it's 1v1 or if there's a low pick attached with Mitts, say a 5th rounder, and I for sure as hell am not sending a 2nd back to Buffalo under any circumstances on top of Zuccarello.</div></div>
I don’t think Zucc is negative value, but I also think it’s a complex situation because of the buyouts. The opportunity cost of keeping Zucc seems to be losing Fiala. At least I haven’t found a very viable way to keep both, but I’m open to suggestions on that. Thats kinda the assumption I’m operating under, and if that’s the case, I’m choosing Fiala 10/10. Which means you gotta move Zucc.
Re: trading Zucc, no team is going to swap a Mitts type player for Zucc 1-1. That just isn’t happening, I don’t care if Zucc is the better player today, he’s aging and he’s expensive.
How much do you think Zucc can reasonably return if traded as the only piece going out?