dzad96

Mitch Marner's Dad
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Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 1:16
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 1:06
Thread: And now its harder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>Tell me which teams have the cap space and want to relinquish 4 first round picks? its not what I or you think Marner is worth its what he thinks he is worth. and he is basing that on previous contracts handed out (whether or not they are RFA UFA) Did Marner have a better year than Aho, Kevin Hayes, Jeff Skinner? how about this, if you were Marner what would you ask for? Is he not worthy of the same money as Tavares? or is he not worth at least in the same ballpark as Tavares? The market has gone up, sorry you can't comprehend that. Also, Marner's camp is also probably projecting future market value when determining the length of his next contract. Again put yourself in Marner's shoes</div></div>

You clearly do not understand how RFA works. IDGAF what Marner wants. Where's his leverage? what is he going to do? Sit out the season and make 0 dollars? go ahead. The point is unless some team is willing to give up 4 first round picks to give him what he wants he is not going to get a penny over 10.5 thats just a fact. Cuz the leafs sure as hell aren't giving him more than that. So if no other team will either what is Marner going to do? what are his options? He either sits out, or takes the Leafs best offer. That's it. He has no other choice. Since you just pointed out no team is giving up 4 1sts for him. Thanks for arguing my point for me ya moron.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 1:01
Thread: EthanK24 - Easy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>Exactly my point





ok he signed Tavares knowing he had a bunch of RFA's to sign. He didn't count on Marner having a monster year or he under-valued Marner, either way he made a mistake. granted I'm sure he thought he was going to win the cup this year
he signed Tavares knowing Lou had made some questionable signings in particular Marleau, also again knowing he had RFA coming up. He caved with Nylander when he should have let him sit out the year
you think he did good with barrie? maybe in the short term but what happens at the end of this year? same with Ceci. he gave Kadri's money to Ceci but only for one year

correct Hayes contract is horrible I can admit that. now lets say Morgan Frost comes up this year and for the length of his ELC has the same success as Marner. Im not going to believe that Frost as an RFA is going to take less because our GM made mistakes when signing contracts</div></div>

Okay so the only problem you have outlined is signing Tavares... One thing. Which i would argue is an extremely good thing he did. JT scored 47 goals last year. Gives the Leafs arguably the best 1-2 punch down the middle in the entire league. He gave Kadri's money to Kerfoot actually, at 1 million cheaper, which was another amazing move. He got Kerfoot for 4 years at 3.5 and Barrie for one year at 2.75 for Kadri at 4 years at 4.5. I'd say that was an absolutely amazing trade. Even if Barrie leaves. No mistakes were made. All great moves. that have yet to cost the leafs any players of any significance. Wrong again pal.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 12:38
Thread: And now its harder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>With the previous RFA and UFA signings the market has been set. I can't explain it anymore, you don't get it
I hope for the sake of Leafs fans he does sign under market value at 9</div></div>

Bro clearly you don't get it. What previous signings? the only comparable that has signed so far is Aho. Don't give me the Panarin crap either, he was a UFA that's not the same, which I have tried to explain but you clearly can't wrap your head around. Answer me one simple question. If Marner is worth 11 or 10.5 or whatever you think, why have 0 of the 31 teams offered him that? Answer me that? BECAUSE HIS "MARKET VALUE" ISN'T THAT.

I can't dumb this down for you anymore. It's like arguing with a 4 year old at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 4 at 11:52
Thread: And now its harder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>you miss the point
Marner's decision is based on market value, if it wasn't he would have signed already</div></div>

He doesn't have a choice. Market value is determined by the market. No team in the "market" is willing to offer him what he thinks he's worth. Just because he thinks he's worth 11 doesn't mean he is. It is quite obvious at this point that there are 0 teams that think he is worth what he wants. It's like if you have a pen and you tell everyone on cap friendly that your pen is worth $100. Well just because you think it's worth $100 doesn't mean it is. Until you find a buyer in the market at your price, the market value is somewhere around 50 cents. Learn basic economics before you come with this "market value" crap. you clearly don't even understand that terminology. What you're describing is perceived worth, not market value.