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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
Thread:
Playoff team
Any world where Philly is getting a 1st for kevin hayes they should take the deal
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs
Don't see this working for Philly, I' viewing it as Laughton for the 1st, 3rd for taking on Murray. It's been reported that a late first for Laughton was turned down.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
Thread:
ee e e EEEEEEE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyl</b></div><div>have you considered the futures you could get for marner</div></div>
You're right Marner could get a bigger return, but why would they give up two good assets that combined make roughly $2 million less dollars than Marner and a 1st? They would more likely than not have to retain on Marner it wouldn't be easy to move nearly $11 million laughton and TK individually are easier to move contract wise with out having to retain when they likely are going to use one spot on Hayes. I'd rather use the cap space to gain assets by taking on bad contracts than to pay for Marner, retain to move him and get a slightly better return.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
Thread:
ee e e EEEEEEE
Flyers are rebuilding they have no interest in this deal
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
Thread:
June16
Robertson is an interesting player but at this stage I don't see the flyers moving picks for other teams prospects.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.
Thread:
Ideal Blue Jackets
Flyers accept
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
Thread:
attempt 10000 this time no retool speed the redbuild
Philly isn't paying for Wheeler but you can pay us to take him
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
Thread:
If moving up doesnt work
Probably depends how the draft goes if they would do it but that's definitely something that the flyers should/would consider
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
Thread:
Holes in FACandidates
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Exactly the same thought as above....
With Couts, Frost and Cates down the middle there is a hole at 4C, somebody who can step up if Coots can;t do it, Frost doesn;t deliver or Cates has to move to LW. Kampf, with good speed and defense would be my preference, but Ultimately a guy who is solid both ways, even a 1 year UFA.
(Don;t make me say it, but a Jeff Carter)</div></div>
Only if Carter comes with a second round pick for our good friend Future considerations lol
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
Thread:
Holes in FACandidates
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>My hope is that they actually try Cam at LW and have a top 6 of
Cam Coots TK
Farabee Frost Tippett
If TK goes, then obv slot Tippett at 1RW and Foerster at 2RW
That Farabee Frost Foerster line could be stud like - the dynamic of all 3 players I think is a home run, loved what i saw out of it for that small sample size.
Also taking a page out of Seattles book with continuously rolling solid lines instead of having a 4th line of checkers energy guys, i think a Brink or an Allison on the 4th line RW w/ Desnoyers as C of course, would be huge.</div></div>
Only worry about a 1st line of Cam-Coots-TK is the two players not having played in at least a year getting those minutes. I mean I guess with could help in the race for Celebrini. A TK-Coots-Tippett could just be so fun to watch. I could also definitely get behind a Farabee-Frost-Foerester line to good playmakers to let foerester rip it.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 16, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
Holes in FACandidates
Hopefully Desnoyers is going to slot in that 4C spot. If TK is still here I guess they could move him to LW and have a middle 6 RW of Foerster and Brink or Atkinson
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 15, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
Thread:
Rumors
I don’t think Philly would need to add anything with Murray coming back
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 15, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread:
mediterranean chicken
I think the deal works from a Philly perspective but make the 4th a 3rd and take out the 6th coming back we can retain to $2M so you can fill out a roster
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
Thread:
Yzerman with the hottest phone
As much as if Michkov falls to 7 I would love for the flyers to take him I don’t think that will happen. If their “guy” is gone or they think he’ll still be available at 9 they 100% accept this.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>Travis Konecny was drafted 24th overall, Xavier Bourgault drafted 22nd, so an A level right. Let me show you Zach Hyman who played with McDavid mostly on % compared to Kailer Yamamoto mostly with Draisaitl, <a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8479977&p2=8475786&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Hyman vs Yamamoto</a>. Could still be considered a 2nd line winger at only 24 I think, if given the right opportunity on the right team, 1st and 2nd round picks like I said. Eichel level trade.
You gotta remember that it was known that Eichel wanted to leave to everyone at the time also, and that was the best offer from a team he wanted to play on probably.</div></div>
Exactly, it was known Eichel wanted out and he was injured with a neck injury that they surgery he wanted had never been performed on an NHL player. He was always going to get less than market value. I'm confused by the comparison between Hyman and Yamamoto are you just trying to show they have similar numbers? I think the big difference in opinion is value of Yamamoto. That said I know Holloway you said is needed would TK 50% retained for Holloway, 1st, 2nd, 2nd Ceci do it? I'm not against Bourgault but feel like it would follow the structure you said earlier.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>Trying to turn people on too Olofsson eh :nod . I dig that idea.
I said the best they could hope for... A lot of Flyers fans are getting fired up if Konecny isn't getting more than Eichel did now, so you gotta be careful when attempting a real conversation, lol</div></div>
Buffalo got an a level prospect, a good second liner, a 1st and a 2nd. Eichel probably should have gotten more but Buffalo was in no position to ask for anything more as Eichel wasn't going to get the surgery they wanted and would still be sitting on LTIR if they didn't take the best offer they got.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Young, cheap, controllable, still developing. He's got plenty of value. He's got a market with plenty of other teams.
Hayes fits a need, but not really a player anyone (let alone CBJ) is going to go above and beyond to get.
<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Groundwork” was laid out between Columbus and Philadelphia regarding a Kevin Hayes trade for this summer. It’s likely that the Flyers would retain ~33% of his salary. The return is not expected to be “anything monumental.”David Pagnotta (H/T <a href="https://twitter.com/CBJ_Opinions?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@CBJ_Opinions</a>) | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBJ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#CBJ</a></p>— The CBJ Center (@CBJcenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBJcenter/status/1638911693299351552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">March 23, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Whole new management team now than there was in March. I get what you're saying though CBJ was also in a different place in march than now I think they're all in if they like the fit of hayes I could see them moving a better piece to do so
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>The Oilers have McLeod, Kostin, and Bouchard to sign too. More money has to go out then comes in.</div></div>
I mean let's say Tk half retained is what happens the return is going to be larger than your suggestion 2.75M for a guy who just put up 61pts on a terrible team and is now going to be playing with on of the 2 best players in the world isn't going to cost a 1st 2nd good prospect and an under preforming overpaid third line wing.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoomerTheHero</b></div><div>Hayes isn't worth Boqvist 1 for 1, even with retention</div></div>
So he sits on the third pair and you still have a glaring hole at center? Unless you think Jiricek isn't playing or for his first season will be on the third pair?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>Oilers aren't adding anything to move Yamamoto. If no teams want him he can be waived to cost $1,950,000, and if teams still don't want him after he could then be sent down at any point of the season without going through waivers the Oilers can buy him out for $433,334 next season and $533,334 in 24/25. Yamamoto is not near as bad as people are trying to make him out to be too. Oilers fans and media love to chase players out of town, see: Jordan Eberle.
Oilers need to be better defensively. Edmonton's best offence in the league doesn't really need Konecny, but I could see it as Philly wants to do him a solid while he's in his prime and they're rebuilding with the understanding that they want him back when he's a UFA. This is if TK thinks he's got a chance to win in EDM. The Oilers will not be able to sign him, Draisaitl's contract is up at the same time.
It's been reported that the Flyers head european scout from Sweden may like Broberg, but...
I believe the best Philly could hope for from the Oilers after retaining 1/2 of TK's contract is receiving Broberg or Bourgault, Yamamoto, 1st and a 2nd in return. Holloway is needed now and I think unavailable.</div></div>
I don't think he's a bad player just not worth the money. In this you're replacing Yamamoto's money for 400k more and more production. Adding TK next Mcdavid or Draisaitl I could easily see him being an 85+ point guy. I don't think it's about doing the player a solid I think there's a fit in EDM for a scoring winger with speed and tenacity. Would I hate the trade being around Broberg? No but I think a winger makes more sense in return. Even if Yamamoto make it though waivers that's still money and a contract spot that could be put to use elsewhere.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>For Boqvist alone, PHI would have to retain half on Hayes and probably add a 3rd.</div></div>
Gonna keep him on the third pair?? Not much on the FA center market and hayes at 5m is a good deal
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread:
seeking a goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>I get the arguments. My point is that if I was GM of the Kings, I'm not willing to take the risk at that cost.
My math didn't take into account the 14 playoff games. With the playoff games, it's actually closer to 0.908.</div></div>
I just went to the NHL website that had him listed at a .906. I really don't think he's going to be moved, would definitely be a though pill to swallow which is why I don't think he will be unless its a massive haul which is very unlikely
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>"No thank you" :Oilers</div></div>
The way I see it is;
Holloway, Tullio, 1st, 2nd for TK
2nd and yams for taking on the contract
I think its pretty fair and Holloway should be the target for the Flyers not Broberg. What do you think is unreasonable?
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
Thread:
its a start
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBigFlyera</b></div><div>I’d be cool with all of these except Roslovic would have to be contingent on us flipping him to a 3rd team with retention to get another pick. Torts hates him he won’t play for this team</div></div>
One season and to make cap work was the only reason I included him also think taking him on helps get Boquvist which was the main piece I wanted.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 14, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread:
seeking a goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>I think OP has it so that the Cap can work. The main pieces for Philly are the 3 extremely young and high quality prospects/picks.
I think it's a massive overpay for a .904 career average goalie. That's 3 first round level pieces and a really serviceable top-6 player for someone who hasn't lived up to expectations, regardless of how bad the defense was in front of him. Korpisalo last year had a worse defense in front of him and put up a 0.913. Even if there is a 2nd coming back, it's still pushed a year down the road.
No thanks for LA.</div></div>
I get it's for cap purposes but that doesn't mean it make's sense to take the contract. Like you said in your other comment we already have a Kupari type prospect in Desnoyers and whenever Gauthier is ready and is playing center we have Cates to slot into that role. Kaliyev is someone who I've like and wish the flyers took in that draft so he's of interest. In this scenario while Arvidsson has value he would be viewed as a cap dump cause of length of contract.
As far as Hart goes, his career save percentage is as low as it is because of one abysmal season weighing it down. It's also not as bad as you have it sure it's not much better but .906 is what it is. He was top 15 in GSAx this season while playing 55 games behind a terrible defense, 16 more games played than Korpi. Another factor in expecting a larger return is that goalies that are 24 and have 200 games played don't exist, most are just starting to play at his age. If he's on a remotely solid defensive team no doubt in my mind he's a top tier goalie.
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