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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
Thread: This team has Hart
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>A goalie with his numbers doesn’t pull that kind of offer. Philly will get another first rounder out of him but they will be inheriting a bad contract in the trade.

Goalies in general don’t pull a lot of value. Kuemper pulled a first but he was twice the goalie and colorado was forced to pay it because they were out of options.</div></div>

A goalie at age 24 that has 200 games under his belt is very rare. Hart has been on a bottom dwelling team for a majority of his still young NHL career and has put up more than respectable numbers outside of 21-22 which the team finished in the bottom 5. Out of goalie that started 45 game (Felt like this was a typical starters min work load) he was a top 10 goalie in GSAx this year on a team picking in the top 10. The flyers don't have to move him and he's under team control for at least 2 more years with his RFA status. To get him at this point it will take an overpay there's no need to rush selling a goalie that you view as a franchise player.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
Thread: This team has Hart
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>PHI doesn't HAVE to move him...yes. But if PHI truly is doing a rebuild. His value likely isn't going up on a team going down. Just like the Hawks did...trade you're pieces to the highest bigger this offseason. Dach/Debrincat style. Not saying this would be the winning offer. Just the whole forced part is accurate, but it's in their best interest to do it soon.</div></div>

The biggest difference between the Philly and Chicago is Chicago was smart and tore everything down when the top prospect of the draft is being considered generational talent. They should build from the net out and Hart is still under team control after this contract expires. I don't think the Flyers are thinking of a dach/debrincat type tear down.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
Thread: Leafs off-season draft day
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>This is good value for a second line winger with minimal term and a ufa status, I also don't have to do this can gladly pull it back and wait for Philly to inevitably suck again and pay less the following year. But you are entitled to your opinion</div></div>

The value coming back for just Konecny is alright but for retention and picks going back it's not enough. Konecny doesn't need to be moved, he's a great complimentary piece but isn't going to make the team so much better ,in the rebuild, that they're finishing towards the middle of the road and he's still just 26 if he doesn't agree to an extension in the final year of his contract you'll still have plenty of suitors at the deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
Thread: 2 years out with Fantilli
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>Pretty much. Slight chance I could see them try to run Fantilli-Gauthier-Couturier down the middle, but they're already weak at LW and I think one of Frost or Cates is more than capable of filling a top-9 role (and to be clear, 0 chance I'm sticking Fantilli on the wing)</div></div>

Ideally I think Cates fills that top 9 wing role very well, unfortunately I don't think he'd ever produce enough to play 2C but I could see him as a shut down piece on a second line that chips in 40-45 points a year. He's had an insanely underrated year defensively. The reason I asked was I'd love to see them be able to run a 1-2 punch of Fantilli and Gauthier for the net decade if this happened. I guess it really depends on how Couturier rebounds from the surgery.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 27, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
Thread: Wacky wack
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>No one is giving up 2 1sts and a 2nd for Carter Hart.

Dont know what that PLD deal is supposed to look like. It seems so pointless to trade anything for a guy that will walk in a year. Winnipeg would never accept this deal.

McMichael isnt worth a 1st and a top4 RHD. He doesnt have the upside any longer to be much more than Owen Beck, Riley Kidney. He isnt needed

Suzuki and Pool Party are two busts. They are almost worthless. Habs keep their pick and Pitlicks.

If Toronto wants to dump that Murray contract, theyd have to pay a 1st. Dont need to add Montembault for a 3rd

Not sure how you have Allen, Hart and Murray all on the team at the same time unless you expect Murray to be injured in a matter of time which makes a lot of sense.</div></div>

I agree that the proposed trade for Hart is a lot but I think for the Flyers to really consider moving him it's going to be an offer like that to get them even thinking. Even heading into a rebuild he still fits the timeline unless he clearly states he wants out or doesn't want to be a part of the rebuild I can't see him being moved unless it's an overpay.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
Thread: Danny Brieres Summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BroadStreet53</b></div><div>Agree 100%. I do not know what the answer is right now, but it is not currently on this roster.
Positive news is Owen Tippett looks like a real piece moving forward. Cam York is solid. There are pieces, but a long road is ahead of us. STRAP-IN</div></div>

Seems like Frost and Foerster have some immediate chemistry which is nice. I've been loving what I've seen out of him the past few games we'll see what happens with Cutter as well, I'm hoping he goes back to school for another year no need to rush him into an elc when entering a rebuild would want the elc cap hit when you're ready to compete. Hopefully we end the season in 5th from bottom and either Michkov falls or we win the lottery
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread: Danny Brieres Summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BroadStreet53</b></div><div>Well I think anyone who can operate a computer knows more than the buffoons we have running that organization most times. I also never said you need to be a star to be a captain. It is what makes the most sense and it is the most successful. The Flyers will probably name Laughton a captain. However, in my heart of hearts I can never see Scott Laughton raising a cup as the captain. So, that begs the question why? What are you doing? I am sick of the being "good" tear this whole organization down to the bone and rebuild it correctly like what should have happened in 2018.</div></div>

Fully agree a rebuild is what needs to happen but the real change that needs to be made is getting the senior advisors out. Clarke, Homer, and Barber have had way too much influence in the past few years and continue the thinking of big and hits=good which the org needs to move into the current day where speed and skill is what the game thrives on.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
Thread: Danny Brieres Summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BroadStreet53</b></div><div>I understand he has been the only player with a letter all year. Coots will be back next year, we all hope and you cannot tell me if not for this injury he isn't the slam dunk Captain. If Laughton is named our captain that would be fitting. Just another thing this franchise will have messed up. He may be a leader and that's great, but he will only be here for at most 3 more seasons. The Mike Richards comparison is wild. Richards on the ice was miles ahead, but off the ice I have never heard a thing about Laughts like you did with Richards. It was always snowy in Philadelphia when Richie wore the "C". Jori Lehtera would've been one hell of a teammate for him just came about 5 years too late.</div></div>

Coots would be another in the long line of quiet leaders. Laughton seems to be someone who would call out his teammates when he would need to and hold them accountable which would be huge. Not saying I wouldn't be shocked if Coots is named captain but with Torts' history the "best player" on the team likely won't be the captain. Also, the comparison to Richie comes from style of play both insanely hard working players, Richards toed the line more than Laughton but this was also a comparison made 10 years ago saying if laughton hit his ceiling he would be a Mike Richards type guy
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
Thread: Teardown
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Dont watch NCAA much , do you?

He's the Leader doing most of the defensive back checking to cover Lane Hutsons Historic NCAA run as the single best Producing Defensman in NCAA History.(official now that regular season is done)
They're making waives in the playoffs too and are part of the final 16 teams after all the divisions playoffs and tournaments finished the other day.
The run they're on doesnt happen if you remove Obrien without putting in another similarly skilled player

Is he worth more then a 2nd round ? I dunno but IM he's worth atleast a 2nd round pick on the higher end and i'd rather have him then Jesse Ylonen</div></div>

It’s been reported that it’s likely he’s not getting signed/will choose not to sign in Philly. Less to do with a personal opinion on a player and more listening to what people with connections in the org are saying. Maybe things have changed but I’m not sure. I’d rather sign a first round pick and see than not sign him and get the compensation pick
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread: big moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilersRule</b></div><div>Torts played a system that worked well with Elvis, and those were his two best years. While I don't think the value is exactly there, I wouldn't scoff at Merzlikins and Torts reuniting, especially if Briere decides to go full rebuild with the Flyers and finally get them back on track.</div></div>

If lucky the rebuild would be ending towards the end of the Elvis contract, he's 4 years older than Hart and could just walk at the end of the contract. Hart is likely going to look for a rather big pay raise at the end of next year but a semi-large cap hit in a rebuild to keep him wouldn't necessarily be a huge deal. Unless he has a monster year next year I can't see him get more than $7M per and like getting less.