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gretzkyghosts

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Forum: NHL TradesFri at 5:57 pm
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Propeller09</b></div><div>Anders Bjork could not have been any more Anders Bjork since the trade. Even for how good he has been, that OT is him in a nutshell.
He legit should score 25+ goals a season.</div></div> I sincerely hope you are correct.
He already has 3 pts, which surprised me.
Time will tell, while Lazar did not score in the first meeting, his efforts were certainly noticeable.
His line kept the Sabres penned up while he was on the ice.
He also spent over 3 minutes on the PK against WAS, which was a huge plus.
I guess I can dream a little here and two game does not make a season but, maybe next year:
Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Ruotsalainen Cozens Bjork
Asplund Mittelstadt Thompson
Could prove to be very interesting.

EDIT: LOL I forgot to add Olofsson.
I guess he could be put on the 2nd or 3rd line and move Asplund to the fourth line.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:42 am
Thread: NYR Acquiring Eichel Scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabreshockey53</b></div><div>Mittelstadt is better than Chytil. Howden is a bottom 10 player in the league and Georgiev isn't really good yet.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DoubleADoubleK</b></div><div>Not even close, and about to get wider</div></div> We all tend to be a bit hyperbolic when we are describing the players for our team.
Let's agree that both Chytil and Mittelstadt are close and both have done extremely well in that past 8 games each have 7 pts with Casey having 5 goals while Filip has only 2.
Filip is playing a much better team that has 36% more goals than Buffalo.
Let me add, Casey's play has blossomed one <strong>"Soccer Genius"</strong> was fired and put on a line with Thompson and Asplund.
Lundkvist appears to be a very good piece, but he is only prospect while Jokiharju performs exceptionally well playing with Dahlin.
That leaves Strome, Georgiev, Howden, and 2021 3rd round pick (BUF) for Eichel.
All of the NYR fans who have been saying Strome is playing well are correct, but the other three pieces are insignificant at best and add very little value to the trade.
So this trade will not bring Eichel to the Rangers.

TBH, if Buffalo were to trade Jack, Sabre fans will be very disappointed with the return.
<a href="/users/CMcAvoy73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@CMcAvoy73</a> said it best "Remove the other two pieces, and just make it for Eichel, and it’s still not fair."
I also agree with <a href="/users/Shakabakes" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Shakabakes</a> the rangers should not trade for Eichel unless it is a huge underpayment.
Please answer <a href="/users/Devil1122" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Devil1122</a> "Explain to me how that's a fair trade".
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 5:31 pm
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Propeller09</b></div><div>... I agree Lazar is a seriously underrated part of this deal. Decent FO guy with a ton of hits and no penalties. Doesn't appear to turn the puck over.
I don't have a ton of faith in any of the organizations he has played for that they can properly develop their guys.
Bjork will be a pleasant surprise there...</div></div> Thanks for the heads up.
LOL, it only took one exchange for me to block him, so I do not have to deal with him any longer.

I loved Lazar from the time Botterill signed and he did not let me down.
He does everything you said and he was signed for an extra year.

I love signing former first round UFA's
Maybe you read my comments that I wish Adams had signed Pouliot and Pysyk instead of Irwin and Davidson.
They were also former 1st round picks that signed for about the same as Irwin and Davidson.

Regardless, Adams is way over his head.
When Sam Bennett returns more than Hall, you know the GM has not uncovered every rock.
So let me add poor TDL management to substandard UFA signing.

Time will tell on the draft. I cannot see how one could pass over Rossi, but he certainly made up for it by drafting Peterka.

Bottom line, maybe Bjork will turn out while I am not a fan of forwards playing their off hand, I have been told he plays RW.
We could use some more depth at RW, as Sam, Kyle and Tage appear to be who we have now that Lazar has been traded.
We appear to be OK on LW with Jeff and Victor on the top two lines and Asplund (our third Rasmus) and Zemgus on the bottom six.

Speaking of Rasmus, he appears to be a solid line mate of Casey and Tage.
They have been the best line for the last week or so.

Have a good day my friend.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:59 pm
Thread: I dont blame Adams
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RoyalBlueSabres</b></div><div>I definitely blame him that was horrendous. Bjork is not good and you loose Lazar he was signed for 800k for another year.
Literally the perfect bottom 6 player. Good defense can chip in at offense good at the faceoff circle. Can PK.
Just take a 2nd. Take a cap dump as well idc. But you lost on Lazar who developed in this dumpster fire of a team.

I honestly saw that trace and waited for 30 minutes to be oh yeah they also added..... and nothing.</div></div> I woke up this morning before looking at the trades.
I mused that the only team that may have an interest in Hall would be the Bruins.
I also thought that since Palmieri and Foligno both got 1st round picks, the Bruins were now bidding against themselves and the Sabres would only receive a 2nd.
I was not surprised, just upset that that was the only return.
But when I saw we had to take on Bjork and give up Lazar, I lost it.
I completely agree with you Lazar was a great pick up last year and he had a year remaining on his contract.
Since Hall was taken out of the line up nearly a week ago, I had to presume a trade was close.
I think Adams over played his hand and lost.
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 10:05 am
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Bjork also plays RW, plays more RW than LW and actually broke into the league play on Bergeron's RW. I also never said anything about Buffalo, just that I hope Bjork find success there. So you're commenting on a point I never made, good job!

As for the trade, Hall had a NMC aka he was in the driver seat. Edmonton could have offered McDavid and Leon for Hall, but unless Hall approved a deal to EDM it wouldn't matter. The group of teams that Buffalo had to negotiate with wasn't very large because of Hall's NMC. Top that with his meh number this year and that's why the return for Hall is underwhelming. At the end of the day Buffalo gambled that Hall would have a monster year and they'd cash in at the TDL. Hall gambled he'd have a monster year with Eichel and cash in a fat contract this off-season. So far the gamble hasn't paid off for either team.

Boston hands down won the trade</div></div>

" good job!" :veryangry
I guess you missed the part "Finally, let's agree, Boston won the trade by a light year, not just a mile."
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 9:29 am
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Cool story
I never compared Bjork w/ Lazar and never said anything about the value of the trade
:cheers</div></div> Thank you for your comment.
Three items, first I wanted to respond to your comment that Bjork helping Buffalo, he will not as Buffalo has LW who are better than he.
Second, I wanted it make it clear that Kevyn Adams actually got <strong>LESS </strong>than a second for Hall.
Hall has more pts than either Palmieri or Foligno, yet they both returned a first, Adams got less than a second.
Lastly, I am really upset that Adams failed to get a first.
I said earlier, IMO <strong>ALL</strong> of the other NHL GM's know he is over his head and took advantage of him.
He lost every trade he made.
Just for example in five games played for Colorado Johansson has a 1.87 GAA, 3 wins, 0 losses, 1 tie, 1 shut out, and a 0.929 Sv%.
I bet everyone in Buffalo thought, "WOW a 6th for Johansson, Sakic must be crazy".
Regardless, thank you for trying to make be feel better about getting Bjork.
IMO Lazar is outperform Bjork for the balance of the year.
Boston upgraded their top and bottom 6 forwards and all it cost them was a late 2nd round pick.
Finally, let's agree, Boston won the trade by a light year, not just a mile.
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 9:08 am
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>LOL love seeing other fan bases try and **** on Bjork without actually watching him or knowing how he was handled in Boston. Cassidy loved to staple this kid to the bench for the smallest things. It wasn't uncommon for him to staple Bjork to the bench for have a shift that was slightly longer than Cassidy wanted. One turnover and BOOM Cassidy would staple him to the bench. Bjork had a stretch where he one of Boston's better forwards, he then had one bad game and Cassidy scratched him.
Now I'm not saying Bjork is some stud, but he at worst is a 3rd line LW/RW that plays a 200ft game. Can play on the PK, has good hands and when he plays with confidence he can be more of a middle-6 player. Wouldn't be shocked to see him go on and find success like other former Bruins forwards have after leaving</div></div> Lazar is better than Bjork.
He has more goals and assists than Bjork.
Lazar plays nearly a minute more of PK per game than Bjork.
Finally Lazar can win face offs. Lazar was always used to win the FO to start the OT period.
It was a bad trade all around, losing Lazar for Bjork just made it that much worse.
Let me add, Buffalo does not need another bottom 6 LW, both Asplund and Sheahan have more goals and points than BJork.
Kevyn Adams is stupid and way over his head and he lost every trade he made.
Forum: NHL TradesMon at 8:41 am
Thread: (BOS/BUF) - Bjork and 2nd round pick for Hall, Lazar
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>This will be a rude awakening to all those Buffalo fans that were insistent on Hall returning a 1st and a good prospect.
That is a good trade for Boston</div></div> Huge return for Boston.
Just look at how many players underperformed for Krueger.
Hall will be fine in Boston. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joe_La_Garnotte</b></div><div>Boston won by a mile... Maybe a few miles</div></div> By at least a first round pick.
Lazar is better than Bjork, when Buffalo needs to win a face off, Lazar is put on the ice. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Efmjnc</b></div><div>Thats all it took? wow that is cheaper than I thought for a guy who could become his Hart trophy form from 2018</div></div> IMO the other GM's know Adams is over his head and underpaid in every trade he made. I am not surprised. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jurajio</b></div><div>A part of me was thinking he would get a conditional first honestly. But Boston may miss the playoffs if they don't preform and somehow NYR or Philly starts doing well again</div></div> Adams failed another test.
After TML picked up Foligno, NYI added Palmieri and PIT traded for Carter I knew the only team left looking for a forward and Adams would need to settle for 2nd.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Either Adams is very high on Bjork, or he himself is just very, very high.</div></div> Kevyn is just high and every GM fleeced him. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Barbs</b></div><div>Just endless suffering in Buffalo these days</div></div> At least Granato has them playing much better. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>I second this</div></div> Yup, when Adams was anointed GM everyone in my hockey circle knew it would be the worst of time. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cyrillicguy</b></div><div>Hahahaha Nick Foligno and David Savard got 1sts. I mean Hall had a **** year but damn.</div></div> Do not forget Palmieri also returned a first.
Playing for a team that had been shut out 7 times this year he still had more pts than Palmieri or Foligno. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EmpressKayla</b></div><div>BOS didn't even need to pay a 1st? This is a huge win, especially given that Bjork is almost done developing and isn't good.</div></div> BJork was added IMO for Cap space, I do not think he will be a Sabre after his contract expires. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>This is what I expected Hall to go for. Should be a solid 2nd liner for Boston.
It's weird to see Boston acquiring Canadian players, besides Marchand/Bergeron, their team is mostly American players.</div></div> Hall will excel for Boston. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dzinger18</b></div><div>Somehow Savard is worth a 1st and a 3rd, but Hall is worth a 2nd.</div></div> I asked the same question. I said above, IMO every NHL GM knows he is over his head and took advantage of his low hockey IQ.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 11 at 8:33
Thread: Boston Bruins 2021 Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>God8069</b></div><div>Think if Buffalo went elsewhere they could get a better prospect, and would swing on that with a similar return outside of the prospect</div></div>
<a href="/users/Ramus_Dahlin44" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Ramus_Dahlin44</a>
The only way Sam will be traded is if the Pegula's decide to start all over and trade Eichel as well.
That is the typical return for a top player, 1st, decent prospect (former first round pick), and a young roster player with a decent upside (DeBrusk).
I wonder what Sweeney expected from Kase to give up a first round pick for him.
Let's presume Kase, DeBrusk and Vaakanainen all reach their top potential, none of them will be as good as Reinhart,
I agree, I think Buffalo would still pass on this deal.
Forum: NHL TradesApr 11 at 9:20
Thread: (CBJ/DET/TBL) - Savard for Lashoff & picks for picks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I'm done arguing this, Because Savard is worth a 1st and that was clear from the start.

But to embed a picture, on the top abouce the box, there are some symbols, Like the tweet thing, the youtube thing, and next to that is a picture one. Click that, put in your link, and hit add. Boom picture.
If you need to get rid of the box because you changed your mind, just hit the icon again.</div></div>
You missed my point.
No problem that Savard is worth a 1st, but why Montour who has outperformed him for the past two years only returns a 3rd.
Adams is way over his head, he has proven this during his entire time as GM.
He took Quinn over a host of players who had a higher upside.
He missed on nearly every free agent. Davidson and Irwin are average AHL defensemen.
Over payment on Girgensons and Eakin, while not even offering Larsson a contract.
I was wrong when I criticized him for signing Rieder, and he was gifted Sheahan as no other team offered him a contract.
Now he totally missed the boat and settling for a 3rd for Montour.
I will leave Capfriendly if Montour does not get 3 goals and 6 pts for Florida and end with a positive +/-.
I posted this earlier, after Soccer Genius was fired, Montour was by far the best Sabre defenseman:
During the 26 games under Krueger, Montour had 1 goal, 6 assists and was - 14.
During the 11 games under Donato, Montour had 4 goals, 3 assists and was +1.
For comparisons, the same stats for balance of the defense
Bryson 0-3- +1
Dahlin 2-4- -8
Jokiharju 2-2- -1
Miller 0-2- -3
Ristolainen 1-4- +1
So as I said for the last 11 games playing for a REAL NHL coach he has been the Sabres BEST defenseman and worth more than a late 3rd.
Forum: NHL TradesApr 11 at 5:23
Thread: (CBJ/DET/TBL) - Savard for Lashoff & picks for picks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jdawg</b></div><div>A first and a third for a defensive defensemen who's actual defensive game is below average at best?? He's a good (to great) system player but not one to fill in the gaps should the system falter. The tell-all is in the corsi. The only player currently in their lineup I'd put savard in over is Ben Thomas. I feel like people are confusing his physical presence with actual good defense.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>he's not a stock, he's a commodity.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>He's an investment 🤓. And they paid first pairing money for a guy that will provide a 2nd pairing game quality as a return. Thus OVER-PRICED.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>I will admit that getting David Savard at a cap hit of just slightly over a million while getting two other teams to retain a combined 75% of his salary is impressive.
Kudos to Tampa's GM for doing that.
However, David Savard is not the player for which you should be spending a 1st with no lottery protection + a 3rd + a 4th, unless you have no other options and you're desperate.
Which was clearly the case from Brisebois :/
He's worth a 2nd + maybe another asset of lesser value, if the other team is being generous.
Similar to the trades for Marco Scandella, Andy Greene and Brenden Dillon from last year.
That's the absolute maximum any team should pay for Savard.
I see you liked one of my comments on here, so I'll give you a like too under the assumption you agree with my larger points :)</div></div> <img class="for_img" src="https://public.tableau.com/views/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR?:embed=y&amp;:display_count=y&amp;:showVizHome=no#3" alt="SKATR?:embed=y&amp;:display_count=y&amp;:showVizHome=no#3">
How is Savard worth a 1st and and 3rd, while Montour only brings back a 3rd?
Savard's skills have diminished over the last 2 years, he is only worth a 5th now IMO if Montour is worth only a third.
I need to learn how to imbed a picture. Here is the comparison of Savard and Montour:
https://public.tableau.com/views/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR?:embed=y&amp;:display_count=y&amp;:showVizHome=no#3
Just change to defense then compare the two.
Forum: NHL TradesApr 10 at 3:06
Thread: (BUF/FLA) - Montour for 2021 3rd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Oh you mean the Carlyle 2018-19 Ducks that couldn't score? And then he was sent to the aimless Sabres? I highly doubt that Niedermayer himself would have survived going from a sinking team to a drowning one.

McCabe's been good exclusively this year, and even then it's a 13 game sample size. Every other season he's been "okay", which kinda describes Jokiharju and Miller too. Dahlin is obviously much more skilled, but his numbers show he's being sheltered. I think we can concede that Ristolainen has never been a good defender. At some point we need to concede that the modern Sabres are a literal black hole in terms of chances against and take some of these stats with a salt lick. Montour's base underlying metrics don't vary wildly from the rest of the Sabres. His 48.48% CF is 5th among the 8 Sabres to play over 1000min since 2018, and he trails Jokiharju and Miller by less than 1%. Montour has the highest expected GF% of all Sabres defencemen with 1000min played since 2018. There isn't a single good defender on this team, and Montour's about average from the bunch. The transformation in Florida is going to be night-and-day: Sabres fans are going to be left - again - wondering why nobody can perform worth a damn for their club but excel elsewheres.

To use an anecdote, were Jeff Petry and Devan Dubnyk always bad players or were they just stuck on a horrible Oilers squad? Coaching, usage, and overall team strength are obviously much more important factors than a few users in this thread are letting on to.</div></div>

I wish I could respond to all of the comments.
"The transformation in Florida is going to be night-and-day."
You said is best and here are the facts to support your point of view:

During the 26 games under Krueger, Montour had 1 goal, 6 assists and was - 14.
During the 11 games under Donato, Montour had 4 goals, 3 assists and was +1.
The 20 games Montour played after being traded from the Ducks to the Sabres he had more goals, more points and lowest +/- of all of the Sabres.
Given proper playing time I suspect he will average close to a half a point a game in Florida while chipping in 4 or 5 goals.
As usual Adams was fleeced, but this was obviously the best offer, curtesy of Ralph Krueger "Soccer Genius".
Now that the league has seen for what he will settle, I doubt the Sabres will get a 2nd for Hall.

Buffalo should never have fired Housley, but considering how the season ended, I guess the team had no choice.

EDIT for comparisons, the same stats for balance of the defense
Bryson 0-3- +1
Dahlin 2-4- -8
Jokiharju 2-2- -1
Miller 0-2- -3
Ristolainen 1-4- +1
So as I said for the last 11 games playing for a REAL NHL coach he has been the Sabres BEST defenseman.

Just his transformation from Soccer coach to Hockey coach has been night and day.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 6 at 3:35
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 4 at 7:50
Thread: Leafs dont need a goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>...If Dubas can get Ullmark or an upgrade over hutch and not lose much I would do it</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Yeah I agree, if Andersen is gone for a while then pick up another goalie. But it won't cost a 1st and second like Buffalo fans hope.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>what they could do is do Campbell/Ullmark while freddie heals than when Freddie comes back Freddie/Ullmark allowing Campbell to get 100% healthy</div></div> Buffalo is 7-5-3 with Ullmark and 1-18-3 without him.
What do you think he would do for TML? Lead them to a Stanley Cup?
Why would you think he would not be the Leaf's starter?
TBH 2021 2nd round pick (TOR), 2022 2nd round pick (TOR) and 2022 4th round pick (TOR) is just a smidgen below a first.
I hope the Sabres can resign him before April 12th but if not, this is a fair offer for him IMHO.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 4 at 4:31
Thread: Deadline approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Flabber</b></div><div>So Debrusk is a 23 goal scorer and Hall has stunk all year. I guess if you really try hard enough to bend the truth you can see it that way</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Hall has stunk all year. Anyone acquiring him is only getting him for a month. How he is playing now matters to his trade value.
Debrusk is a long term asset. Anyone acquiring him is acquiring his long term potential. He has averaged 23g per 82 games for his career. He had 27 in 68 games 2 years ago. 22 in 86 since while slumping. If you want to determine his long term value off of a15 game cold streak, feel free. If that is what you think he will be from here on out, value him that way. That is what couch potato GMs do. Real GMs won’t. 🤷🏻‍♂️</div></div> Real GM's will want to acquire a player three years removed from winning the Hart for a player who has half the number of points (19 v 7).
Kyle Okposo has more pts than DeBrusk (10 v 7), let's trade them one for one with Buffalo retaining half of Kyle's salary.
Kyle has KP with no PP time, Jake does not KP and gets 1:23 PP min/gm.
No I do not think you like Kyle for Jake one for one either, nor does Buffalo like Taylor for Jake one for one.