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Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>beantownboy17</b></div><div>That is too much. There's a reason he hasn't been traded yet. He isn't worth what Buffalo is asking. Young NHL roster player, A+ prospect, 1st rounder, another 1st or a B prospect.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>The old 10 for 1 deal, I've seen it many times before</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>Not like this. Normally its ten crap prospects.
This is way too much.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Boston has got to be just about the last place. We arent retaining for 5 years, they wont wanna play him 30 times before his contract is up, and if you gotta send 11 pieces, its the wrong pieces.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AgentWebster</b></div><div>You know one way or another he is coming to Boston and this is a really good package for him BUT if you don't understand what your getting back in this deal then good luck in life.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>If Donny did that he should be fired and possibly executed.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>I just don’t see Buffalo trading him to the Bruins</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>Bos, Pitt, Was are all in the same boat really good teams that are starting to age out - The question is does Eichel get you another kick at the can? personally I think Spencer Knight would be a better target nothing helps a team win in the playoffs more than a hot goalie</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bruinadian67</b></div><div>Whoa...that got dark!!</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>I think Buffalo just wants four 1sts. They don't need any prospects. If you need to give a short term cap dump for a season or two then they'd probably take those on.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OlegP</b></div><div>Literally, Boston's entire future.</div></div> With Jack playing in front of McAvoy and Rask and Bergeron as the other top center we all do not think that Boston will be significantly better than last year?
For the next 2 or even 3 years all of those first round picks will be either just before Buffalo's second round pick or no more than 4 picks earlier as Boston will give Tampa a real challenge.
So the the three first round picks are nearly 2nds, but to avoid an argument, I will call them firsts.
The same for the 2nds will all be very late but we will call them 2nds.
DeBrusk from 2 years past looked really good, how about last year, With 5 goals and $3,500,000 salary does that put him into the cap dump catagory?
Vaakanainen a LHD drafted in 2017 (four year ago) has played 16 NHL games, does that put him into the bust catagory
Studnicka a good prospect, the <strong>jewel</strong> of the trade.
Wagner please forgive me Chris, but what does he add to the trade.
Take out DeBrusk, Vaakanainen and Wagner from the trade.
Imagine Studnicka, 3 26th OA draft picks and 3 58th OA draft picks, does that sound like too much for Jack Eichel?
Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Need 2 Know
Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago
Thread: eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>theyve both put 250pts the last 4 yrs and while Coots is a UFA, he wont be a 10mil UFA. Hes just 28 yrs old, a selke winner, a leader, a team first guy= something BUF needs, JVR is added for salary purposes, but he has no injury history and a safe bet for 20-30 goals...</div></div> This is a very interesting trade.
You make a very compelling case for the trade.
How do you value Rubtsov, and Strome?
What value does 32 yo JVR bring to the Sabres?
What happens if Buffalo cannot trade or sign Couturier?
If Buffalo made this trade they would have only 3 Right handed forwards next year: Cozen, Thompson and Okposo!

OK those are the negative sides to the trade.
Couturier is only 4 years older than Eichel, if there was a guarantee he would sign a 6 year contract with the Sabres, he would be a big plus.
JVR should provide decent production and replace the scoring that Reinhart provided.
The following year, If JVR could be moved for a decent return it make the trade very attractive.

On the surface it looks like a fair deal, I will agree.
But, if Couturier does not sign with Buffalo, and JVR's production slips all Buffalo has is a couple of prospects with a low NHL ceiling.

I think I would have to pass on this trade unless Couturier came with an extension.

<a href="/users/sk540" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@sk540</a> you are correct Couturier would be a great addition, but I think a younger edition is what Buffalo would want is the point that <a href="/users/Juiceman" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Juiceman</a> is making.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 10:33 am
Thread: TinkyWinky
Forum: Fauteuil - DGFri at 10:36 pm
Thread: Eichel
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Thread: Stars 21-22
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 8:57 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 26 at 9:37
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>soooonk</b></div><div>Agree with you on Parsons, although if hes a throw in, its good to have options.
Phillips has potential, but needs the opportunity.
I wouldn't say nobody wants Kylington, I just think the price is too high because of how good of a skater he is and how hard that is to find.
For OP, I think you would have to swap Monahan for Zary to make the trade work. Buffalo is going to want to get a lot younger.</div></div> You are correct Parsons is a throw in but throw in a prospect who does not play GK.
With Levi, Portillo and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen the Sabres have a really good GK prospect pool.
Phillips is probably an OK prospect and he plays center.
Kylington is also and OK add on but he plays LD, with Dahlin, Powers, Hagg, Bryson, Samuelsson, and possibly McCabe and Pilut, Buffalo does not need another.
I think you need to keep Monahan in the trade to balance the cap. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>What are you talking about?? Two legit NHLers, one in Tkachuk that is a Line 1 LW, and a 2nd line center, plus 2 first round picks.</div></div> Where does Tkachuk come into the conversation?
Was he in the trade originally?
Let's presume this is the asking price:
<strong>One young C </strong> Dillon Dube
<strong>A Prospect</strong> 2024 1st round pick (CGY) and 2022 3rd round pick (CGY)
<strong>B prospect</strong> Matthew Phillips
<strong>1st round pick</strong> 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
<strong>Salary back</strong> Sean Monahan
I think it punches all of the tickets. Monahan is not a pure cap dump, but the picks do not guarantee value.
Overall, I think it is a fair offer and Buffalo may accept it.
Replace Parsons and Kylington with a prospect of equal value and I cannot see Buffalo rejecting this offer.
Shibbal18 likes to think he could be an NHL GM and knows more than all of them combined.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 26 at 9:09
Solid input from both of you.
I am a Sabre fan here and think this would be the MAX that Buffalo could expect in an Eichel trade.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Any team trading for Eichel will be giving up 4 or more pieces... some extras here for the other guy...</div></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Buffalo isn’t going to want 6 different players. They’ll want 3 or 4 at most that are of quality. That’s the issue. I thought the asking price for Eichel was something like:
One young C <strong>Chytil, Filip </strong>
A Prospect <strong>Kravtsov, Vitali</strong>
B prospect <strong>Jones, Zachary</strong>
1st round pick <strong>2022 1st round pick (NYR)</strong>
Salary back <strong>Strome, Ryan</strong>
<strong>If Hájek and 2022 2nd round pick (STL) are for Miller, Buffalo would be crazy to say no.</strong>
Likely don’t need to send as many pieces. I’m sure something like Chytil + Kakko + Schneider + Strome + 2022 1st would do it.
<strong>IMO, Buffalo would kill to get this return.</strong></div></div> I hope we can agree on this.
While Buffalo does not need D-men prospects, I think without Ristolainen, Miller will get more PP time and could return to his previous offensive output then the Sabres could flip him at the TDL.
TBH, I think Girgensons would be included in the trade instead of Miller.
I understand the Rangers are looking to add some grit to the bottom 6.
I am probably rating Zemgus too high but the 2022 2nd would be close to his value.