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Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 3 at 7:49 a.m.
Thread:
David Perron Wants to Come Home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No way the Hawks do that. Both of those players will be free on waivers in October</div></div>
Barron isn't going on waivers anytime soon
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 3 at 7:07 a.m.
Thread:
David Perron Wants to Come Home
Had the chance twice, We wont play that game anymore
Perron is a good player but he gave an interview after signing with PIT about his desire to avoid the MTL Media.
The Pressures that come along with it "not being for everybody" and i remember hearing that and going "dodged a bullet"
MTL is great but the Media here SUCKS !!!!!!
Im a New York Yankee's fan which is the MTL of Baseball basically in terms of Historical Relevance and Impact.
The Media is no where near as Brutal in New York by comparison.
Like Phil Danault touched out his first LAK Interview "Nice to do one of these in English for a change"
Before Elaborating that being 1 of 2-3 French guys the media in MTL interviews in Bulk can get Demoralizing Quick
Even Caufield a Rookie had to defend Danault in the Media after MTL lost in the SCF.
The year end interviews a Reporter was basically trying to lay the loss at Danaults Feet
Caufield piped up and put that reporter in his place and got the Fist Bump from Phil for doing it lol
Some French Players love it
Like Lafreniere would thrive and According to his Roommate Josh Roy he keeps an eye on MTL still.
He'd be someone i'd be willing to give up a top 5 pick +++ to land this year and Sign Monahan
We'd be in Prime Position
But given AL isnt an option most likely
I really do like Kaliyev A LOT as he fits
I'd likely target him and still sign Monahan
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread:
Jets Get Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>So you would prefer just a 2025 3rd & Iafallo for Chychrun!</div></div>
No buddy. We prefer a 2024 or 2025 1st + Iafallo + 3rd round pick or medium prospect
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread:
Jets Get Chychrun
I don't see the Jets giving up a 1st and Heinola as it kind of defeats the purpose of trying to add better defenders, but with the contract this is at least makes some sense.
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Armchair-GM
May 1 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread:
Has the Stamkos Era Ended
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Voice_Of_Thruth</b></div><div>Do you even know about these prospects lmao?
To say theres nothing in there for you is just dumb</div></div>
I'll give it a shot.
The scouting report on this site is a little outdated for Barron but sees his upside as a 2nd pairing 2-way D. His production this season is a step down from last season, which I find a little concerning towards his chances of reaching that upside. He's played in chunks of 3 seasons now but hasn't solidified himself as a permanent NHLer.
I'm not going to go off of Farrell's scouting report since it hasn't been updated in over a year. I think he's in a little similar of a situation: his stellar NCAA scoring hadn't entirely translated to the AHL, apparently partly due to injury. I think he has the highest upside of any of these guys.
Koivunen was 6th in scoring in both the Liiga regular season and playoffs this year. Afterwards, he was one of a few decent players as WBS collapsed in the playoffs. He could very easily be fighting for an NHL spot next season. I'm not convinced the gap between Farrell and Koivunen is particularly wide. He's also over a year and a half younger than both Habs prospects, so there's more wiggle room for him to grow still.
Foster's a step down from the other guys here. However, he is also still only 18 and was 3rd in scoring on the 67s this year. Probably a 3rd liner at best if he ever makes it to the NHL.
I'm willing to say Farrell and Barron are the better pair of prospects right now. Am I willing to turn a 3rd and a 4th into a pair of 7ths for that swap? Not particularly.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
Has the Stamkos Era Ended
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>So the thing is, Stamkos could just stay in TB $7.8M and would take home the same amount after taxes. Why would he leave, why would TB let him go if $7.8M is all it takes to match the next best offer on the market?</div></div>
Probably because TBL can't even afford him at $7.8mil aav. I don't think overall salary will be Stamkos' main focus though (obviously there will be a base line amount that would need to be met), but term will be more his focus. If a team offers him 6-7 years (until he turns 40-41, similar to Letang's extension), he will prioritize that, even at a reduced salary ($5mil-$6mil range)
The answer probably lies in the middle somewhere, He'll probably take a 5 year deal (until age 39) anywhere between $7mil and $9.5mil depending on the team offering it ($7mil range for tax free state teams like Tampa, Vegas, etc. and $9.5mil range for like Canadian teams like Toronto, Montreal, etc.)
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Armchair-GM
May 1 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread:
Has the Stamkos Era Ended
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>What do you think we would need to offer to get Stammer to come to Montreal?</div></div>
I'm not sure, but if Stamkos signed with TB for $7.8M (matches your offer for him here) they would still have at least $4.785M left with a roster of 17. They could also increase the term to beat your 3 year offer and get that AAV down.
Put it this way, I don't think MTL should enter a bidding war for Stamkos with Tampa Bay because they would have to overpay to the point it's unlikely to be worth it.
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Armchair-GM
May 1 at 9:01 a.m.
Thread:
Trading up with Marky
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>My guess is that only our 2024 1st from Winnipeg is on the table.
Now if Montreal remains at pick 5 and Calgary at pick 9, they might swap picks, as long as Calgary gives up a player like Connor Zary and in return we add Pittsburgh's 2nd in 2025.
(The flames shouldn't do this though.)</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaun80</b></div><div>Lol I don't think Montreal would part with 5th overall but that's a huge overpay to move up 4 spots.</div></div>
Its 4 spots in the single digits. The closest comparable in the last 20 years is the 2008 luke shenn draft
5th went for 7, 37, 68.
The flames picks are 9, 27, 41, 64.
41 and 64 match the 37 and 68 while 27 is the extra cost for moving 4 spots instead of 2.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Reunite Marner and Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Interesting trade proposition. Can you provide the exact trade outline, just so I can visualize. As you said Benn for Marner, 1 for 1 won't happen.</div></div>
Tough call
Im a fan of neither team so likely to take abuse from both.
But to me Benn's value is on the decline but even in his decline he out produces a lot of teams top guys, but 9.5m for 6.5m play at best is a hard sell
Marner is overpaid as well but i feel its not by as big of a margin in fact its so small its barely worth mentioning at 750k-1m and thats based on him disappearing in April and May every year
If he produced id call it fair value but IMO he needs more room to take that next step which is 100% within him , just not in TML IMO
So i value Marner over Benn by a fair margin to the point DAL's 1st this year is a piece not the only piece.
I'd say Marner for Benn , 1st , 3rd and a B+ or A- Prospect?
Or DAL could just RS on Benn and lower the return quite a bit by paying a 3rd party to RS for a 3rd and maybe a Waiver eligible player on the fringe like Oskar Back and now a B- or C+ level player IMO
Lets say Marner for Benn at 4.75m and a 1st would seem palatable to me as TML would be left 6m in cap to sign someone
Its tough because Benn is a Grizzled Veteran making 3m over what he's paid today but it could be 4m next season, who knows?
Even with the Salary Retained at 50% its still a hard thing to argue to TML fans that its worth giving up on Marner.
But i think RS with a 1st giving TML 6m to go shopping would do it.
3 way trades are tricky but not impossible and that 3rd team RS can make a big difference just look at the Petry deal(#2)
DAL could make a deal with Utah or ANA or SJS,ext to RS on Benn
If they move out Faksa they'd be in a much stronger position this year but it isnt needed.
They can kick the can down the road a year on most who need contracts as they go from 15 to 50m cap free
So re-signing Marner actually fits their timeline if they wanted to go that route
Marner would make more and be in a state that defends individual rights at a rate few others do in North America so there is appeal to it even though Hometown Boy playing at home is the goal if he had to choose a runner up DAL is a pretty sweet landing spot IMO
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 9:22 a.m.
Thread:
Kadri and Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Thank you for doing one also. :)
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/828048?post_id=4859291 (I think mine got buried for the leafs version)</div></div>
Anytime! It was an interesting trade that I think benefits both teams really well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 6:02 a.m.
Thread:
Reunite Marner and Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>If 69 games and 85 points is Marner's worst season, then I am scared to see when he is on fire, with the flames, pun intended.
Marner needs to play away from home, needs a mental reset, and a fresh start.
Liljegren, is a good player, but the Maple Leafs keep switching his D-pair around, like a merry-go-round and moving him up and down the lineup. How is this man suppose to settle in with so much instability? (And he does not fit as well into Toronto's d-scheme, compared to the player's management think they want, eg. very physical.) Over the last three seasons Liljegren has played 183 games, playing less due to being a healthy scratch. During those 183 games he has 64 points, a 0.35ppg average for a defensemen. Much better than Rasmus Sandin (an LD), who fetched a first, and afterwards signed for 5 years at 4.6m.
Which RD comes into the league and has played 7 pro seasons by the time he is 25? No one. Most defenseman start in the NHL after playing 2-3 years in the minors or overseas. Liljegren has 3 "full" (60 game) seasons under his belt. Give him a break, and blame the coaching staff for this mess. Expecting players to succeed with so little patience, is a hallmark for continuous first round exits.
If the Leafs lose later today, the first thing they need to do is fire Sheldon Keefe, (and break up the core four). I believe Marner is the odd man out.</div></div>
Maybe, but I dont think you're selling high on either player.
And Marner who's production wasn;t down, we know with the leafs regular season offensive production is over rated, its his overall game/importance. Marner's value is hurt by the fact that he is small, one dimensional, non physical, and seems mentally fragile/selfish/? (main reasons Toronto fans want rid of him), but also to the fact that hes probably a 13+mil re-sign as a player making winger, and similar to Gaudreau (who was a UFA) might not have his one asset (offensive production) on a lesser team that isnt a regular season offensive powerhouse.
As far as Liljegren, its partly Toronto's system, but he hasn;t shown the offensive upside or physical upside to be a top 4. Toronto over just the past 2 years has brought in a combo of defensive and offensive guys, some getting far more minutes (and some not a healthy scratch) in McCabe, Schenn, Gustaffsson, Klingberg, Benoit, Edmundsen, Lyubushkin. Liljegren will be going into his EIGHTH pro season in North America with less than 200 NHL games. If he cant be a top 4 in toronto, with their defensive turnover and need, theres not a ton of teams he could be. I just dont see a higher upside than we've seen and he'd have to be partnered with the right player. I just don;t see him getting what Sandin got (and even that looked like an end of the round 1st), maybe a late 2nd, because Sandin got that return based on less information. Liljegren's stock in the past 2 years is going lower, not higher.
I just dont see anyone giving equal or better value in trade for these two right now, but then you're never going to get a "marner" for a "marner" but you might get multiple pieces which are better for the team or make the team better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>On a loaded Winnipeg Jets team, this year, yes. But on most teams, he is a third line player, if this season was a fluke. Which I believe it was, and one can say it's regression... (A third line winger, for 2.75m over three years is not a dump, is all I am trying to say)</div></div>
You’re wasting your time with so many ppl here. That wind homer, he called Monahan a 4th line Center on the jets and that Chevy had no interest. Fast forward a few months and he’s top PP, 2nd line Center and plays on their pk.
These haters never admit they are wrong and simply like to gaslight and troll. The best you can do is build a good block list. Sometimes. I’ll take them off just when I’m in the mood for a good laugh. Don’t engage too much, you can’t win, they’ll just make you question how ridiculous they can actually be in real life and you hope they have mental health care and actually go outside every now and then for their own good.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 12:21 p.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>According to this year's statistics 100%. (Over the first 200 games, Imo Caufield is worth more as a goal scorer, to each their own)
We both know McTavish and 3OA is outlandish, but that is sorta how the Slavkovsky one made me feel. (I misspoke regarding Reinbacher, but still he can't be moved) I understand the one for one was before Slaf broke out. It was meant to be an extreme, albeit too extreme.
Just to understand how you value Zegras:
Is Casey Mittelstadt + Colorado 2nd 2026 enough for Zegras.
Or let me ask you this:
What is Zegras worth in this years draft OA?
And what is Caufield worth in this years draft OA?</div></div>
I'd say Zegras would return anywhere from 2-7 oa as a main piece, and Caufiels anywhere from 5-10 as a main piece. I value Zegras higher for his ability to play center, higher career points, and less likely to have his career cut short from injuries due to his size.
I also understand outside Celebrini, it's a pretty meh draft, no real consensus on 2-10, there are going to be good players, but there's not really any star power outside Macklin.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 11:33 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>On a loaded Winnipeg Jets team, this year, yes. But on most teams, he is a third line player, if this season was a fluke. Which I believe it was, and one can say it's regression also. (A third line winger, for 2.75m over three years is not a dump, is all I am trying to say)</div></div>
Cool. You like him, I don't. We can agree to disagree. It's all good.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>You really seem to be betting against him. Which is fine, but he is a very serviceable 3rd liner.
But if you need on-ice evidence, here it is, since he entered the league and played his first full season:
2016-2017: 17 goals
2017-2018: 19 goals
2018-2019: 27 goals
2019-2020: 1 goal (Serious Injury)
2020-2021: 17 goals (Shortened Season, 56 games))
2021-2022: 19 goals
2022-2023: 21 goals
2023-2024: 9 goals
Out of 8 'full' seasons he has played, he has scored more than 17 goals in 6 of those seasons. (one of those seasons he only played 26 games)
6/7 = above an 85% he scored 17 goals in that season.
To say you know, he won't average 17 goals over the next three seasons, is quite a claim.
(On a side note: I am rooting for the Jets this play-off. I think Josh Anderson on the third line, if he uses his size, which he can, would be a big addition to get the Jets to win the cup.)</div></div>
Yeah, I understand trying to make him look good in the hopes that someone bites, but claiming that he's going to continue a goal pace he's had trouble reaching until he's 33 when you can clearly see he's regressed that last few years and almost certainly will continue to regress due to age, is wishful thinking. 25 points is about the max you can hope for.
The Jets 3rd line is their checking line and has been excellent this year, so I wouldn't mess with it to force in a player that isn't a clear upgrade on anyone on that 3td line. He isn't a top sixer, so the 4th line is the only place for him and there are more economical options for that.
Anyways, we're off topic here, so we should probably get back to the actual ACGM, than worry too much about Anderson.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 11:19 a.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Do you think Slafkovsky for Zegras (one for one is equal?)</div></div>
At this point, Anaheim would be adding a piece, but these discussions have been going on for so long that they proceeded Slaf's breakout, and MTL would have been the ones adding.
I am pointing out pieces on the habs roster/pipeline that would be worth moving Zegras for at all, and the comparables are there from this season moving highly drafted players from there original teams. Gauthier got Drysdale and a 2nd, Mittlestadt got Byram. Both dealt in trades where the return was an equally high end piece.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:54 a.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
Imo, middle ground for Zegras would be a pick 8 to 10 OA this draft. So if we trade for one of those picks and flip it for Z, we’re looking at good middle ground, imo
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Pat Verbeek didn't "have trouble signing" Zegras to a long-term contract; he didn't offer him one.</div></div>
Then why use Caufield as a comparison when there's that major difference in organizations opinion of their player? Lol
This is why everyone is speculating a Zegras trade, him and management are on shaky grounds.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:45 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Since I already mentioned this was on the low end, what value was your comment intending to add?</div></div>
lol ignore that one lmao
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:04 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I looked at your other one, which you labelled as "too much". It's not that it's not enough, in its just not the right pieces. Anaheim won't want, if there was a desire to trade him, mid pieces. They would want a high-end piece coming back. Think of Reinbacher, 2024 1st + something else, Slaf. Those are what Anaheim would be after. Think of the Gauthier trade, they sent a high end piece in Drysdale.
Josh Anderson, even at that retention, doesn't have any value and probably even less so to Anaheim. Have to remember that each team would value players differently depending on where they are at.<strong> Anderson has less than zero value to Anaheim at 50% retained. </strong>
Farrell doesn't have any value, likely not going to be a NHL player. Also not a player Anaheim would want either way.
Barron has a bit of a value, maybe a 2nd. He's the type of player you could package with your 2024 1st.
Winnipeg's 1st, Mesar, Beck all are mid type of pieces. Anaheim, like alot of teams rebuilding, have a bunch of pieces like that.
If you want a high quality player, you have to offer something of high quality in return, not just a bunch of mid stuff. Ask yourself if you would trade Caufield for that package and if you say no, that's probably your answer.</div></div>
Anderson, at 50% retained. Has value to every single team in the league.
I'm really starting to question Duck fans.
I understand the need to get max value for Zegras. But, is he not simply a skilled 65 point wing that lacks 200 foot game?
And yes. If somehow Caufield was somehow in trade rumours and deemed expendable. A late 1st Beck/Mesar/Baron would look pretty good as a potential return.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:09 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SLAFSQUATCH</b></div><div>See PLD trade. Habs fans were offering "fair trades" for PLD. Considering leverage. Winnipeg fans were irate. LA swoops in and overpays in comparison to Habs concensus. And, signs him to a contract where Habs fan were considering 7x7 big max. In the end. As of right now. LA is sucking on lemons. Perhaps PLD evolves into that player LA paid to get. But as of right now, it would be fair to deem that, dare I say, Habs fans were right in this regard.</div></div>
Chicago is going to be that team that 'overpays' the Bedard lustre will wear off with such a terrible team, again, in the following year.
Chicago should be making a ton of moves as they are starting from the bottom.
No point in the Habs trying to compete with desperate teams that want to make their key players happy and keep ticket sales going.
Habs dont have to worry about either with waiting lists on tickets and clear growth in their team play with many assets turning pro like Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Roy, Beck next season.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 8:33 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>GeneralLandro, may absolutely be right, maybe Verbeek isn't Shopping Z at all.
Nevertheless, if something were to happen. What would make both sides feel like they were not ripped off.</div></div>
See PLD trade. Habs fans were offering "fair trades" for PLD. Considering leverage. Winnipeg fans were irate. LA swoops in and overpays in comparison to Habs concensus. And, signs him to a contract where Habs fan were considering 7x7 big max. In the end. As of right now. LA is sucking on lemons. Perhaps PLD evolves into that player LA paid to get. But as of right now, it would be fair to deem that, dare I say, Habs fans were right in this regard.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread:
Zegras Since the Rumors Be Rolling Neither Side Should Do This
I looked at your other one, which you labelled as "too much". It's not that it's not enough, in its just not the right pieces. Anaheim won't want, if there was a desire to trade him, mid pieces. They would want a high-end piece coming back. Think of Reinbacher, 2024 1st + something else, Slaf. Those are what Anaheim would be after. Think of the Gauthier trade, they sent a high end piece in Drysdale.
Josh Anderson, even at that retention, doesn't have any value and probably even less so to Anaheim. Have to remember that each team would value players differently depending on where they are at. Anderson has less than zero value to Anaheim at 50% retained.
Farrell doesn't have any value, likely not going to be a NHL player. Also not a player Anaheim would want either way.
Barron has a bit of a value, maybe a 2nd. He's the type of player you could package with your 2024 1st.
Winnipeg's 1st, Mesar, Beck all are mid type of pieces. Anaheim, like alot of teams rebuilding, have a bunch of pieces like that.
If you want a high quality player, you have to offer something of high quality in return, not just a bunch of mid stuff. Ask yourself if you would trade Caufield for that package and if you say no, that's probably your answer.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 7:59 a.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TZ11</b></div><div>I think Ducks fans would be unhappy with any return tbh. No one wants to see Zegras traded, the Ducks are so much better with him on the ice as we've seen at the end of the season, even though the points didn't show it before these last 10 games or so. Although it's important to note that he was still battling the effects of an injury before he came back towards the end of the season. I just don't see there being a deal that fans of either team would like. On paper this is more than Zegras is worth but he's such an important part of the Ducks' roster and the returning pieces are probably once again pushing the timeline back. Anaheim wants to get out of the rebuild, this would probably extend it by a decent bit. I'm not saying this is an unfair deal towards the Ducks but the fans would probably be unhappy with any deal.</div></div>
Same injury that kept Logan Couture out basically all season!
I do agree we certainly don’t want to see Z gone but he does also make us better when he is on the ice like you said. When he is behind the goal line, you can sometimes see at least 3 heads turn to him to try and see what he isn’t doing since he can create plays in so many ways
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 8:00 a.m.
Thread:
If the Ducks Move On from Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_trade_churner_50</b></div><div>Thank you for your honest responses. Both Andy_Dick & TZ11. Appreciate the candidness and the intellectual stimulation. (Many emotion-driven fans on this site, which isn't bad lol, but really glad to see two very logically argued reasonings to understand what's going on both sides.) Thank you.</div></div>
Look at any thread in the trade forum. The 1st page of responses are usually emotional and incorrect. Par for the course. The easiest thing here is to be dismissive and tribal in anonymity so you can feel tall and part of a group.
It's always going to be a cesspool when you deal with fandom especially these days with a lack of community and entertainment in Hollyweird being awful. People want an escape in sports.
Fan does actually stand for fanatic
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