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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread: What do we do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Well for starters, Kovy, Thompson and Scandella should all be gone by the TDL so that's 3 open spots right there. I'd also really try to move Cousins as well. The it comes down to how much MB wants to sell. The two prime targets are Petry and Tatar with two secondary targets being Byron and Kulak.

Automatically have to trade: Kovalchuk, Thompson, Scandella.
Light retool then also trade: Byron, Kulak, Cousins, Weal.
Hard retool then also trade: Petry, Tatar.
Rebuild well then its literally everyone over the age of 28.</div></div>

Thomson doesn't HAVE to go; Byron even though well liked does, Kovy will be and Scandella could opt for hometown discount, maybe.
Tatar and Petry will be gone if not by TDL, then in the offseason. Kulak, Weal and Lindgren if you can get late picks do it.
Cousins is cheap and you need guys like that! Open to see what Domi would fetch but not tradng with T.O. or anyone else in division. IMO
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.
Thread: What do we do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SCGLisme2</b></div><div><strong>Thomson doesn't HAVE to go; </strong>Byron even though well liked does, Kovy will be and <strong>Scandella could opt for hometown discount, maybe.</strong>
Tatar and Petry will be gone if not by TDL, then in the offseason. Kulak, Weal and Lindgren if you can get late picks do it.
<strong>Cousins is cheap and you need guys like that!</strong> Open to see what Domi would fetch but not tradng with T.O. or anyone else in division. IMO</div></div>

If you get a pick for Thompson, he has to go, yes. If you want to resign him in the offseason that's fine but there is literally no reason to keep him this year based on where we are in the standings. Same goes for Scandella but the thing is Habs are starting to be log jammed at LHD. Chiarot, Mete, Romanov, Kulak if he isn't traded. There are only so many spots available so someone has to go. Scandella can stay as a 7th dman but i doubt he wants that so you got to trade him and recuperate those assets spent on him.

Cousins is absolutely worth trading if you can get something for him. He was a free pickup just like Kovy. Habs don't need cap space and Cousins playing 15 mins game is precisely why I think he should be traded. This team isn't good enough if Cousins plays too many minutes and if that's the case, you need to build through the draft and develop youngsters. So instead of Cousins getting 15 mins, Poehling, Caulfield, Kotkaniemi, etc etc get those minutes instead. Plenty of Cousins type players available in free agency if need be this offseason. Smart GMs turn free pickups into long term assets and don't get attached to those free pickups.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread: What do we do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>If you get a pick for Thompson, he has to go, yes. If you want to resign him in the offseason that's fine but there is literally no reason to keep him this year based on where we are in the standings. Same goes for Scandella but the thing is Habs are starting to be log jammed at LHD. Chiarot, Mete, Romanov, Kulak if he isn't traded. There are only so many spots available so someone has to go. Scandella can stay as a 7th dman but i doubt he wants that so you got to trade him and recuperate those assets spent on him.

Cousins is absolutely worth trading if you can get something for him. He was a free pickup just like Kovy. Habs don't need cap space and Cousins playing 15 mins game is precisely why I think he should be traded. This team isn't good enough if Cousins plays too many minutes and if that's the case, you need to build through the draft and develop youngsters. So instead of Cousins getting 15 mins, Poehling, Caulfield, Kotkaniemi, etc etc get those minutes instead. Plenty of Cousins type players available in free agency if need be this offseason. Smart GMs turn free pickups into long term assets and don't get attached to those free pickups.</div></div>

It all depends on the pick you get for Thompson, MTL gave up a 4th in 2019 for Thompson and a 5th in 2019, so a 4th or 5th would be as low as I would go. He can still help the younger guys and teach them about faceoffs at the very least.
Scandella for a hometown discount is better that Kulak who can be traded was my point, they will need experience at LD and if Kulak is gone then they have Chiarot, Mete and Romanov.
If you get back your 4th you spent then so be it.
Cousin only played on the top 2 lines due to the injuries the Habs had and he was fine, not great but fine. He should be a 4th liner at best and again his only trade was including an AHL'er and a 5th going back. If you can get a 5th then do it. Play Poehling for sure but more than 7 min and don't rush Caulfield.
At least Cousins knows the system and can keep up, who knows what you get in the offseason.
Every player has a price but these guys are not 6th or 7th round picks, MB must do better or keep them.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
Thread: What do we do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SCGLisme2</b></div><div>It all depends on the pick you get for Thompson, MTL gave up a 4th in 2019 for Thompson and a 5th in 2019, so a 4th or 5th would be as low as I would go. He can still help the younger guys and teach them about faceoffs at the very least.
Scandella for a hometown discount is better that Kulak who can be traded was my point, they will need experience at LD and if Kulak is gone then they have Chiarot, Mete and Romanov.
If you get back your 4th you spent then so be it.
Cousin only played on the top 2 lines due to the injuries the Habs had and he was fine, not great but fine. He should be a 4th liner at best and again his only trade was including an AHL'er and a 5th going back. If you can get a 5th then do it. Play Poehling for sure but more than 7 min and don't rush Caulfield.
At least Cousins knows the system and can keep up, who knows what you get in the offseason.
Every player has a price but these guys are not 6th or 7th round picks, MB must do better or keep them.</div></div>

I disagree with the bulk of this.

The Habs are not a contending team, in fact they are probably not making the playoffs at all so keeping pending UFA's makes no sense if there is an asset to be gained from trading them. Remember, players can be resigned in the offseason. Thompson isn't a July 1st UFA type of player anyway...... If Habs really want him they could easily let him know they plan on resigning him in the offseason. Gaining more picks in this draft is just business and Thompson would be fully aware of that. As for the pick itself, who cares what pick it is? Its a pick and that is all that matters. Habs paid the equivalent of a 6th for him. They moved down in the draft from 119th to 138th essentially so we're not talking about a huge cost here. Even if the pick is a 7th, its one more chance to land a Fredrick Andersen or a Ondrej Palat. All for what? Not trading a 4th line type player that are very available in free agency if ever we need one? That is not how asset management works...... Once again, only if you get something of value for him. If you don't, then I agree just keep him....

As for Scandella, i know he is better than Kulak but that doesn't help the fact that you are paying X dollars on a guy you are actively going to play as a 7th dman. Chiarot is going to play. Romanov isn't coming to NA to be a 7th dman. Mete is the future of the team, can't play him 7th dman. So knowing that, why are you even resigning Scandella? But heck even if you wanted to sign him, would Scandella want to? He is taking a hometown discount to be a 7th dman?? There is no space for him next year and if you wanted him as depth and he was willing to sign to be depth, than not trading him would still be asinine. If you can get an asset for the player now and he is willing to come back next year, at a hometown discount to boot what is the problem?

Cousins doesn't <em>need</em> to be traded because he is an RFA but based on where this team is going, if he can return an asset at the TDL, go for it. Habs paid nothing to get this guy. They turned a player whose very replaceable into an asset for literally just playing him on their team. Once again, this is how teams get good. Through the draft and turning free commodities into assets. You get more picks in the draft, you increase your odds of getting good players for free and cheap contracts. Cousins is a fine cheap bottom line player but he is small piece of the puzzle only and in the grand scheme of things, very replaceable. If you can get something for him, its found money as they say.

Agree 100% on Caulfield but you must keep the option open if he shows he's NHL ready right away. Like many college players, they tend to only want to sign if they know they'll play with the big club and judging by his production as a freshman, he looks very close to being ready anyway.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 30, 2019 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread: Byron to Edmonton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>itsgilli98</b></div><div>I believe edmonton could make the playoffs this years so it wouldn't be a high 1st rounder. Maybe if it's conditional (lottery protected) ?</div></div>

Its not the point. Its that even if they want Byron, they can get him or someone else similar without having to touch their 1st rounder. So why take on a 3rd just to give the Habs a 1st instead? There is no incentive here. Byron is good but not that good to force EDM to have to make a rash decision. If we were talking about them getting Taylor Hall and that there are 7 other teams trying to get him, then you may have to just suck it up and make the deal but with a depth player like Byron you don't have to.

If EDM agreed that Byron was worth a 2nd and a 3rd, that would be the offer. If MTL offers only to do it for a 1st and a rd coming back, IMO I would just walk away from the deal altogether.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 30, 2019 at 10:43 a.m.
Thread: Byron to Edmonton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>itsgilli98</b></div><div>I believe edmonton could make the playoffs this years so it wouldn't be a high 1st rounder. Maybe if it's conditional (lottery protected) ?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Let's just assume the value is equal, just because you add quantity to a deal doesn't necessarily get you quality in return. For example, EDM would be wayyy more interested in giving up a 2nd and a 3rd (If they were interested in doing that based on what you said) for Byron than giving up a 1st but getting a 3rd back.</div></div>

Maybe by TDL if Edmonton is still in the top of the league and Montreal are way out of playoff, Byron and a 2nd (32-40) vs 1st (24-31) is an option. But as F50Marco mentionned it, they would definitively do 2nd and 3rd before this