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Forum: Armchair-GMJul 13 at 4:46
Thread: Winnipeg Jets
I don't think Eakin signs for that little, but at the price I'd love to keep him. I'm hoping for a trade for a long term solution though as my preferred option.

We also will keep Perreault, especially if the cost to move him is a 2nd rounder. We're sitting here with $7M in capspace. Unless you have a plan to use it, keep Perreault instead of signing Joakim.

I also agree that you probably don't sign DeMelo and Hamonic. You've signed Hamonic at almost $5M per to play on the 3rd pair when we already have Poolman who is just entering his prime. I don't think we'd need both and I'd need Hamonic to come in at DeMelo and Edmundson money to even consider it.

With that said, if you're trading Poolman with other assets to get a Cirelli this shows that we would have the capspace to make that work. It also shows that instead of DeMelo and Hamonic we could offer that $9.5M to Pietrangelo and go Petey, Pionk, Poolman on the right side as well.

Lots of options and if Little is out on LTIR but that means we do need to get a 2C for now and the future.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 15 at 3:37
Thread: Tampa Fixes Cap Issues in 3 Moves
I agree that moving these 3 guys out for picks or prospects is the way that Tampa ideally would address their cap issue, but I don't see why Johnson would waive to come to Winnipeg nor why Palat would waive to move somewhere else.

We could potentially use Johnson but I'd rather trade a truck load for Cirelli as he would be a longer term solution. Knowing TJ has a full NTC, he would only be willing to move to a couple of teams and he will be turning 30 at the end of July so it's just a question of how long until the decline in play hits. As a result I wouldn't give you a 2nd for him, (and the picks would probably have to be from next year (2021) as we only have 4 picks this year already.

Honest question, would you choose to move from Tampa Bay to Winnipeg if you were him? (An American player, who committed long term to the organization and took less money so that you could have full trade protection until the end of your career.)

I love the Jets, but I would suggest that his best chance for a cup is to stay where he is.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28 at 12:41
Thread: Trade for Cirelli
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mnwild1790</b></div><div>Sorry to rain on your parade but not happening. Tampa's too smart to not maximize Cirelli's return. Here's how Cirelli would find Winnipeg:

Cirelli offer sheet would net 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tampa. Tampa could easily fix lower end of lineup by signing UFA's to 1-2 year deals. That would better maximize their return for Cirelli. I would add to that offer if you are to convince them to trade before FA and Offer sheet period.</div></div>

I guess I don't understand your point of view because, imo, this offer is more than the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks they would get through an offer sheet and the prospects I'm offering are closer to being able to contribute to their team, in their window, than a draft pick would be.

1st vs 1st
2nd vs Vesalainen (who was a 1st round pick and is expansion exempt)
3rd vs Smith (who was a 3rd round pick and is born in Tampa Bay, so having a hometown kid would be appealing)
Niku (who is NHL ready and can be a contributor immediately on a minimum deal)

How much more do you think Cirelli returns via trade? I've offered essentially 2 - 1sts, a 3rd and a roster Dman. All pieces fit their area of need.

I'm curious what a better offer that is out there for Cirelli considering that virtually no salary can come back in trade unless it's an ELC or league minimum caphit.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 20 at 5:17
Thread: Slight Cap Increase
Just wondering why Tyler Johnson would waive his full No Trade clause? Just curious as an outsider to what Tampa fans think.

From afar I see that Killorn can probably be dealt for futures and he probably would have the Rangers on his 14 team approved list so that makes sense. They can afford to take the cap too.

I just didn't expect anyone else to be willing to go from Tampa to anywhere else where the 1) team is probably worse, 2) weather is probably worse and 3) taxes are probably worse. These guys sign these bargain deals to get that No trade so I feel like they'll have to move an RFA instead of T. Johnson. (Unless there's some reason Johnson would waive that I'm not aware of)

So if you had to keep Tyler Johnson, what would you be looking for in a trade for Cerelli. Futures and prospects obviously because you can't handle any cap but what would you expect in return?
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 20 at 10:45
Thread: Jets now trying to trade buff
I imagine that the only thing palatable for both sides will be conditional picks depending on how Buff does. One conditional pick for this season and then a second conditional pick for next year.

As the NHL has backed the Jets position here and given the green light for them to spend his cap money there isn't much risk to the acquiring team. If he doesn't play he doesn't impact the cap in any way. If he does play you get Buff who maybe decides to play another 5 more years. Who knows.

I'd imagine it would be future considerations, which become a 3rd round pick if Buff plays a game in the playoffs this year and a 2nd if he plays more than 50% of the playoff games and the team wins a round and a 1st if they go to the WCF.

Then the same thing the following year. If Buff plays 40 games it's a 2nd and if he puts up at least 40 points or is extended it changes to a 1st. (Buff has put up 40 points a season or at least been on that pace every year since he switched to D, so essentially for the last decade)

Could be a decent return for the Jets (2 late 1sts) if Buff performs like we expect. If he doesn't then it may cost the acquiring team nothing.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 16, 2019 at 10:46
Thread: Year after
You're trading a lot for a guy that ends up as a third pair Right D. In your scenario in addition to moving out Poolman (who is a third pair RD) Vesa and a 2nd we also likely lose Logan Stanley to waivers.

It's a small sample size but Heinola Pionk look like they could be the 2nd pair already. JMo is top pair on the left and I expect Samberg to step in and play too like you've shown.

There's really no need to make this move at all, especially when it costs us a bottom pair roster player, 2 former 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick.

Alternate scenario with no trade and no Buff:

Next year (with age next season):

JMo (25) Niku (24)
Heinola (19) Pionk (25)
Samberg (21) Poolman (27)
Stanley (22)

So the D is pretty much set, so is the top 9 and the goaltending. If you add Buff back in there it looks even better.

This year may be a down year, but I still think we're a playoff team and we'll be right back to being serious contenders again next year. At least that's how I see it playing out.

There's no need for the Jets to trade for anybody, even though other fanbases think we should. Just be patient through 1 up and down year where we likely make the playoffs and if we don't it's a great draft so we should be able to grab a 2C of the future.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 7, 2019 at 11:23
Thread: Jets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>This would be so stupid if Chevy did this. There’s no reason to freak out.

Once Morrissey Niku and Beaulieu are healthy again, things will calm down. No need to go out and make a stupid trade and ruin the future. That Buf trade is so bad, I don’t think risto even helps defensively LOL. He’s a liability and was -24 last year lol.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigDog91</b></div><div>So the team was -45 last year and he played 30 mins a night against other teams top line with scandella as his partner. So, i think -24 is pretty good. Drew Doughty was -34 last year does that mean he is bad in defensive zone? When you play on bad team your =/- will be bad.</div></div>

FYI, he wasn't -24 last year. He was -41. Risto doesn't return even one of those pieces, never-mind all three.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 30, 2019 at 4:57
Thread: Niskanen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Doubt philly is trading Niskanen a few months after acquiring him</div></div>

Fair, but if they want P. Myers to play they have Sanheim, Braun, Niskanen and P.Myers on the right side. Even if you flip Sanheim to the left you have Provy, Ghost, Morin and Hagg there already and you don't want both Morin and Hagg stuck in the pressbox.

My understanding is that there is no way they move Myers or Sanheim so that leaves Braun or Niskanen (they just acquired both)

They could just put Myers in the AHL and then he steps in for Braun next year or when an injury happens, but this allows the Jets to address the need for a proven top 4 RHD and the Flyers to get Myers into the starting lineup and address a weakness at RW in the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep 26, 2019 at 10:00
Thread: y not
Nobody hates Laine because he wasn't scoring for 3 months of his career. He needs to get a bit quicker and be stronger in board battles... typical 20 year old player stuff.

We'll keep them both. The way the Jets operate is deadline driven so before the regular season starts they'll make their final offer to both players. Our owner doesn't allow higher offers once the season starts so they players will sit until they accept what was already offered. They can just ask Jacob Trouba if they need proof.

I think we get Laine at 2 by $6.5 and Conner at 7 by $7.5. Then Buff can come back or not. Either way we're cap compliant.

As an aside, I'd actually flip Perreault and Connor on your lines as Perreault Little Ehlers was excellent 2 seasons ago as the defacto top line when Scheifele got hurt and Connor / Roslovic have always had excellent chemistry together from their time on the Moose. Also, I think Berdin gets the call instead of Comrie if Broissoit gets hurt, but that's just my opinion.