DISPLAY SETTING
Toggle Dark Mode
Automatic Theme
BETTING ODDS
Odds Enabled
LOCALE
FR
LOGIN
REGISTER
FORUMS
ARCHIVE ▾
ARCHIVE
Past Cap Payrolls
(Premium)
Arizona Coyotes Final Roster
Articles
2017 Vegas Expansion Draft Simulator
2021 Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator
CBA ▾
CBA
CBA FAQ
Scouting Reports FAQ
Salary Cap History
Maximum Entry-Level Compensation
LTIR FAQ
Buyout FAQ
Offer Sheet FAQ
Waivers FAQ
Reserve List FAQ
Expansion Draft FAQ
ODDS
SCOUTING
CALCULATORS ▾
CALCULATORS
Buyout Calculator
Waivers Calculator
Qualifying Offer Calculator
Arbitration Calculator
Offer Sheet Calculator
Income Tax Calculator
FANTASY-TOOLS ▾
FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS
Summary Page
Depth Charts
Starting Goalies
Player Status Updates
Injury History
TOOLS ▾
TOOLS
Entry Draft Board
Contract Comparables
Team Affiliates
Professional Tryouts
Reserve List Players
(Premium)
Salary Expense Tracker
(Premium)
Scouting Reports
Arbitration Filings
Coaches
General Managers
COVID Roster Freeze Players
Trade Clauses Commencing
(Premium)
PLAYERS ▾
PLAYERS
Free Agents
Active Players
Inactive Players
35+ Contracts
Entry-Level Contracts
Entry-Level Slides
NTC-NMC
Career Earnings
Contract Comparables
Professional Tryouts
Scouting Reports
Cost Per Point
Cost Per Save
Trades
Signings
Transactions
Injury History
Waivers History
Retained Salary
Buyout History
TEAMS ▾
WESTERN CONFERENCE
PACIFIC
Anaheim Ducks
Calgary Flames
Edmonton Oilers
Los Angeles Kings
San Jose Sharks
Seattle Kraken
Vancouver Canucks
Vegas Golden Knights
CENTRAL
Chicago Blackhawks
Colorado Avalanche
Dallas Stars
Minnesota Wild
Nashville Predators
St. Louis Blues
Utah Hockey Club
Winnipeg Jets
EASTERN CONFERENCE
METROPOLITAN
Carolina Hurricanes
Columbus Blue Jackets
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins
Washington Capitals
ATLANTIC
Boston Bruins
Buffalo Sabres
Detroit Red Wings
Florida Panthers
Montreal Canadiens
Ottawa Senators
Tampa Bay Lightning
Toronto Maple Leafs
INTERACTIVE ▾
INTERACTIVE FEATURES
Armchair-GM (Custom Roster Simulator)
Mock Draft (Entry Draft Simulator)
Trade Machine (Trade Proposal Simulator)
SEARCH
ARMCHAIR-GM
MOCK-DRAFT
TRADE MACHINE
TEAMS ▾
Anaheim Ducks
Boston Bruins
Buffalo Sabres
Calgary Flames
Carolina Hurricanes
Chicago Blackhawks
Colorado Avalanche
Columbus Blue Jackets
Dallas Stars
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Florida Panthers
Los Angeles Kings
Minnesota Wild
Montreal Canadiens
Nashville Predators
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Ottawa Senators
Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins
San Jose Sharks
Seattle Kraken
St. Louis Blues
Tampa Bay Lightning
Toronto Maple Leafs
Utah Hockey Club
Vancouver Canucks
Vegas Golden Knights
Washington Capitals
Winnipeg Jets
PLAYERS ▾
Free Agents
Active Players
Inactive Players
35+ Contracts
Entry-Level Contracts
Entry-Level Slides
NTC-NMC
Career Earnings
Scouting Reports
Cost Per Point
Cost Per Save
Trades
Signings
Transactions
Injury History
Waivers History
Retained Salary
Buyout History
Contract Comparables
Professional Tryouts
TOOLS ▾
Entry Draft Board
Contract Comparables
Scouting Reports
Arbitration Filings
Professional Tryouts
Coaches
General Managers
COVID Roster Freeze Players
Reserve List Players
(Premium)
Salary Expense Tracker
(Premium)
Trade Clauses Commencing
(Premium)
Team Affiliates
FANTASY-TOOLS ▾
Summary Page
Depth Charts
Starting Goalies
Player Status Updates
CALCULATORS ▾
Buyout Calculator
Waivers Calculator
Qualifying Offer Calculator
Arbitration Calculator
Offer Sheet Calculator
Income Tax Calculator
SCOUTING REPORTS
ODDS
CBA▾
CBA FAQ
Scouting Reports FAQ
Salary Cap History
Maximum Entry-Level Compensation
Buyout FAQ
LTIR FAQ
Offer Sheet FAQ
Waivers FAQ
Reserve List FAQ
Expansion Draft FAQ
ARCHIVE ▾
Past Cap Payrolls
(Premium)
Arizona Coyotes Final Roster
Articles
2017 Vegas Expansion Draft Simulator
2021 Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator
FORUMS
LOGIN
REGISTER
FR
Toggle Dark Mode
Odds Enabled
kafle22
Kafle
Member Since
May 25, 2019
Favourite Team
Edmonton Oilers
Forum Posts
2467
Posts per Day
1.3
POSTS
THREADS
LIKES
ARMCHAIR-GM TEAMS
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Alex Chiasson (2 Years / $2,150,000 AAV)
At least it wasn’t Tanev money and term..
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2019 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Markus Granlund (1 Year / $1,300,000 AAV)
Another A+ July 1st for EDM...NOT
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jun. 11, 2019 at 7:32 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Patrick Russell (1 Year / $700,000 AAV)
.
<strong>WOW.</strong>
This guy has solid AHL stats .... definitely a prospect to watch !
<strong>OMG he's 26 .... I retract my statement. </strong>
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 22, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>This week, on Days of our Oilers..</div></div>
Like sands through the hour glass......
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 22, 2019 at 3:59 a.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
Elias Pettersson and the Canucks love this three year deal! Chiarelli is the proverbial drowning man and every other team and player's agent are throwing him lead weights.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 21, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
This week, on Days of our Oilers..
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 21, 2019 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
Chiarelli strikes again
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 21, 2019 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
I would have given him a 1 year deal. There is not nearly enough of a sample size in the NHL for me to feel comfortable with a three year deal at that AAV.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 21, 2019 at 5:37 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Mikko Koskinen (3 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)
SOMEONE STOP THE MAN ! I'm not even an Oilers fan but I can feel the pain. So sorry guys...
edit : it has a no-trade clause I'M DEAD HAHAHAHAHHAH
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 15, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Caleb Jones (2 Years / $850,000 AAV)
Edmonton has a good, cheap, young D that hasn't been traded to Pittsburgh yet.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 4, 2019 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Philip Broberg (3 Years / $1,713,333 AAV)
At least they don't have a Foote fetish
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Alex Chiasson (2 Years / $2,150,000 AAV)
Oh no baby what is you doin?
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 1, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Jujhar Khaira (2 Years / $1,200,000 AAV)
Bottom 3 in the Pacific is looking more and more likely.
Forum:
NHL Signings
May 22, 2019 at 12:28 a.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Logan Day (1 Year / $750,000 AAV)
.
<strong>Logan Night</strong> is better ... should have signed him instead.
Forum:
NHL Signings
May 23, 2019 at 6:43 a.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Olivier Rodrigue (3 Years / $910,833 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I don't get why anyone has an issue with this signing.</div></div>
The only issue I have is if this signing comes at the expense of signing Hayden Hawkey.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 5, 2017 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Connor McDavid (8 Years / $12,500,000 AAV)
Seems pretty hefty for a dude that's played a season and a half. But what are they going to do, say no? Peter Chiarelli's negotiating strategy was probably to plead on hands and knees to get him down even to this number.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 13, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
Completing the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>too much for Parayko, he good and all but this ends up crippling the oilers</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bringer_Of_Snow</b></div><div>And while I do really like Parayko, I think that is an extremely backwards move for the Oilers. They lose a ton of depth and futures.</div></div>
<img class="for_img" src="https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FarBlankAmericancrow-size_restricted.gif" alt="FarBlankAmericancrow-size_restricted.gif">
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 12, 2020 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread:
Improving the Lineup top to bottom
Oilers trade is interesting but I have a question.... why do a lot of Habs fans want to trade Tatar if he is so good and clearly loves to play there?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2020 at 5:00 p.m.
Thread:
Hertl Burns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>oilers probably take it</div></div>
Absolutely. We don't need LHD but McCabe is better than Russell and cheaper... and he's retaining 50%!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2020 at 1:44 p.m.
Thread:
First overall pick
Why do people on here keep trading D prospects to the Oilers?? That is the one thing we definitely do not need!!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2020 at 11:54 p.m.
Thread:
Wait what the hell happened with boeser
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>I mean they didn't pay a lot for him</div></div>
true, but benning is gonna benning
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread:
Canucks exploring trading Brock Boeser
Brace yourself, incoming Johnsson + Bracco + 2nd trades :tearsofjoy
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2020 at 10:28 a.m.
Thread:
Sabres blow it all up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>Nurse is left shot Risto - Reinhart is the best player in the trade, Puljujärvi, Lavoie, and the 20th pick are all gambles, Miller while not great is a proven NHL player</div></div>
- Miller is an overpaid 3rd pairing defenseman that the Oilers don't need. He has negative value in this scenario.
- Hutton is an overpaid backup with eyesight issues. Negative value.
- Pilut isn't an NHL player, better players are available in free agency for league minimum. Zero value.
- Reinhart is a good 50-60 point winger. Is he worth more than a 1st pairing defenseman? That's debatable.
- Columbus' 2020 2nd is slated to be 49th overall.
- Nurse is a 1st pairing defenseman who can PK effectively and even work the PP if asked, although he won't displace Dahlin on the 1st unit.
- Puljujarvi has some value, how much is hotly debated but he certainly has some.
- Lavoie is a hot prospect who is one of the best shot generators in the CHL.
- Edmonton's 2020 1st is slated to be 20th overall.
Also, you are sending ~$13M in cap to Edmonton but taking just $7M back. That doesn't work for Edmonton at all.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2020 at 8:39 a.m.
Thread:
Sabres blow it all up
Edmonton laughs and hangs up. That's not close to fair value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
Thread:
Depth Changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Ignorance to facts at hand doesn't mean you can dismiss the argument and pretend to be right.
For the sake of argument, the NHLe of the SHL and Liiga are effectively comparable and are equivalent to the AHL. Thus the following:
Pierre Engvall
- Entering his Draft+6 season
- 76 points in 127 games across both leagues, 0.598ppg.
- 15 points in 48 NHL games, 0.313ppg
Jesse Puljujarvi
- Entering his Draft+4 season
- 129 points in 180 games across Liiga/AHL, 0.717ppg
- 37 points in 139 NHL games, 0.266ppg
If the typical consensus is that after a player's draft+5 season, he "is-what-he-is", we can project what each player is "expected" to do based on their largest body of professional work. Statistically, Engvall isn't going to develop into anything beyond what he is in his career today. He might get transitioned into a full-time role as a center, but beyond that we can expect his production to effectively remain constant. His AHL-equivalent numbers project him to be a 0.293ppg player at the NHL-level. He's currently overachieving based on the math: this is why I said the sample size was too small. You can't look at 48 games worth of production and claim this is Engvall's floor. For all we know, it's his ceiling.
Puljujarvi currently has another year before we can genuinely say he's peaked: based solely on the math, Puljujarvi should be clocking in somewhere at around a 0.354ppg player. It's not hard to realize that this clearly isn't the case, but we also have the knowledge that he was given - typically - less than 10min a night per game in the NHL, stapled to Milan Lucic's hip, and never used effectively (the club tried to turn him into a grinder instead of capitalizing on elements like his shot). Again, it's worth mentioning that Puljujarvi's AHL-equivalent numbers were typically produced with Jesse featuring as the best player on his team - his stretch this season (53pts/56gp, a 0.463NHLe) - are a testament to that. Engvall has never been the best player on any of his AHL-equivalent teams. Lawrence Pilut or Jeremy Bracco were. Claiming that the two are in any way comparable - just because of a ppg in a minte sample size - is ludicrous.
I don't know where you get the claim "bad defensively" from unless you're ignorant to how bad the 18/19 Oilers were. Puljujarvi was touted as a two-way monster on his draft day and showed it in Finland where he was given room to play his game. You don't get to be a +30 player (even if +/- is flawed to all hell) in any league by being a slouch.
His value right now has some influence from where he was drafted, but it's far from the only reason. He was drafted high for a reason, never put into a position to excel, chased away, and re-discovered his game back home. He's 22 years old. There's a ton of runway left with this kid, and that's where his value comes from. His current ceiling is miles higher than a second round pick today, even higher than most prospects. I don't care if you personally think he has no value; it's your choice to be ignorant to facts. You have a right to be wrong.</div></div>
What are Puljujarvi's AHL numbers if you take out his Liiga numbers? Also Engvall is much better defensively than Puljujarvi.
Basically what you're saying about Engvall not having a large enough sample size is a double standard. You also have a right to be wrong. Don't feel too bad.
A 2nd is fair for Puljujarvi imo.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>I still don't get why other oilers fans think poolparty is worth a first</div></div>
It happens. Some Leafs fans still think Bracco is an A tier prospect.
First
2
3
4
Next
Page 3
SalarySwish
| NBA Salary Caps by CapFriendly
Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
Forum Rules
About
CBA FAQ
Contact Us
Privacy Manager
Follow @CapFriendly
CapFriendly
CapFriendly
© 2024 CapFriendly.com