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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 8, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread:
Deep look - Next year
Good breakdown. I hope Savard and Dvorak are traded before the start of 2024-25, and I think they have value, especially with 50% retention. If I had to bet I would say both won’t be here.
Armia will be bought out or included in a trade for a good player as a salary dump. He can’t be on the team to start next year. Shouldn’t be there this year. Every player on the team knows he’s not a part of the future, move on.
We will see what happens with Allen/Primeau/x for the backup position, if Monty works out.
They will trade some of their young players/prospects for top end players, but might not be for 2024/25.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 23, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>Gonna be tough at this point. Most teams have their goalie situation set, and if not they are typically looking for bargains because the cap is tight.</div></div>
I was thinking in the 2024 offseason.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 23, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aasen6</b></div><div>Petey is so much better than stone and eichel you can’t even compare them not to mention eichel returned the package he did coming with a serious neck injury. Tkachuk returned a top 5 winger at the time in Huberdeau, a very good d man in weegar and a 1st an Calgary still completely lost the trade. So yes if you want Petey you’ll have to give up a ton, otherwise enjoy getting a guy like Scheifele if you only wanna give up that package.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Pettersson is much better than Eichel and Stone were. Tkachuk was also traded for a 100 point, top 5 winger in the NHL, a top 20 RHD, and a first. That’s a lot better than what you have here. And guess what? Calgary still lost the trade. Not a single one of the pieces here even come close to getting a player of Petterssons caliber. It is completely insulting to not even offer a guy like Slafkovsky, Reinbacher, or Suzuki for a guy like Pettersson</div></div>
These are good points, maybe they do add a top young player like that, but what they will probably do is try to pull off an Eichel or Stone type trade. If that is not Petterson then that is fine, as long as it is another star. Seguin to Dallas was probably a better example than Tkachuk in terms of assets in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CBA</b></div><div>I really like Owen Beck, he will be the perfect 3C
But you can’t not trade a future 3C for a superstar
Pettersson would become MTL 1C
Suzuki would become MTL 2C
Dach 1RW
Caufield 2RW
Slafkovsky 1LW or 2LW
Newhook 1LW or 2LW
2 balances lines
Slafkovsky-Pettersson-Dach
Newhook-Suzuki-Caufield
In the process you lose your future 3C but Harris is expendable
With Pettersson, MTL are not a bottom 10 team
We have no clue what CGY will be, but they won’t be a bottom 5 team</div></div>
Yes, exactly. They need to use their surplus of assets to get another star forward.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>Hawks have 4 goalies on professional contracts. They don't need Allen. Not even at 50%. Send a 3rd with Allen at 50% and sure.</div></div>
Maybe another team finds value in him at that price then.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>Only if you're placing no value on top 10 unprotected picks which i find kinda weird.
I value them over always injured Elias Pettersson ... we got enough of those guys to last us a lifetime...
Savard is solid , he's just a defensive D so most Fantasy Hockey Fans dont get his value but it only exposes their lack of knowledge .
I get people like EP
But i love Owen Beck cause he's a dick who plays mind games like Marchand or Shaw.
But he's also a solid Ambidextrous faceoff Center who likes to play mind games there too.
I'd say he's more similar to Marchand as he's not easily baited and only is willing to take a penalty if a better players going with him.
He's something we dont have and something we can use long term behind Suzuki and Dach at 3rd Center Position.
My Favorite reason though is his Chemistry with Lane Hutson on ice as someone distributing the puck to lane at high volumes like Beck can is ideal for MTL.
Those picks could both end up being top 10 so MTL could end up with the High End Winger with Size we need for our top line going forward.
What he brings we dont need in MTL as long as Dach keeps playing well and is worth investing in that is.
So maybe call us in a year, if Dach craps the bed we'll talk</div></div>
Good post. Some people think mtl is giving up nothing in this trade. Either way, MTL should use some of their assets to get a star like Petterson to match Suzuki and Caufields primes. Maybe a tougher player…
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy316</b></div><div>We know he can at the right cap hit,its been proven.
TBL paid that too for him to be a 6/7th D but mostly they paid so MTL among others Couldnt.
It was a smart call as MTL with Savard vs TBL atleast makes that series close as TBL smoked us due to our lack of quality depth(Merril was our Savard lol)
But my point is Savard the way he's played as of late at 1.75m with RS
Someone will pay a 1st even if its just to make sure other teams cant have him.
Its why Tomas Tatar's got so much from VGK their 1st year in the league.
They didnt want PIT or STL to have him and it was the right call in the end.
Also i feel while this may be fair-ish
I'd rather keep the top 10 pick and Beck
Besides the way CGY is going thats possibly 2 top 10 picks
More important my Screensaver is Suzuki putting Petterson down hard into the ice when Petterson went through Center Ice with His Head Down that Covid Year where we played Canadian Teams only and MTL lead by Toffoli lit VAN up hard. Suzuki isnt Soft but he's far from Tough, He only looks tough because of how Soft Pettersson is and it didnt stop with Suzuki as a matter of fact Josh Anderson rode him over the boards into MTL's bench with authority to.
MTL has plenty of those types.
If we're giving up potentially 2 top 10 picks and Owen Beck i want a Touch Winger or a Power Center for 2nd C.</div></div>
Thanks for the post. It doesn’t have to be Petterson, maybe they can get another star with a bit more sandpaper that becomes available?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aasen6</b></div><div>The bare minimum to even start negotiations for Petey would be slafkovsky, one of guhle or reinbacher and both of those 1st rounders. Even then probably not enough.</div></div>
That’s what players like Eichel, Stone and Tkachuk went for?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>That’s terrible justification…. Taylor Hall was traded for a 1st before. He just got traded for peanuts, and he is still a significantly better player than Savard</div></div>
Chairot went for a first plus. If Savard is healthy, he’s a right shot vet d with an extra year, teams will be interested. Maybe they get a second which is fine. Maybe they have to retain to up the offers which is also fine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>I read the description. If you think you’re getting a player of Pettersson’s caliber for that package, prepare to be disappointed. None of these trades are accepted. Typical Habs post. All your players are valuable, but you expect to acquire star players for cheap</div></div>
You are acting like there is no value in the pieces in the trade. Also, this isn’t the point of the post. MTL can add in different players or picks to make it work. Just use the surplus of assets to get a star, not necessarily Petterson. Eichel was traded for just good pieces, same with Stone, Tkachuk, etc. It happens.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Hawks decline. They aren't spending a 3rd for a one year rental of Allen. If Hawks want a veteran G, they'll sign one in free agency. Or they'd take Allen at his full cap hit along with Montreal's '25 2nd for F/C.</div></div>
Okay then they can trade him to another team for a 5th or something, or keep him. It’s not about the Hawks necessarily.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Canucks decline.No chance that trade ever happens.Our G.M. would be fired on the spot.Not to mention the fan revolt.Think about it do you SERIOUSLY think the Canucks would do that for that sad return.IMHO</div></div>
Read the description.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>No team is hoping to get a bunch of good pieces in return for a great one. VAN has no reason to move Pettersson, if they did they’d want great assets back, not a bunch of good. This isn’t close to value
It’d be like someone suggesting MTL trades Suzuki or Caufield for a bunch of things valued around a late first/early 2nd. Even if it’s a bunch of pieces, that just isn’t going to cut it</div></div>
Eichel was moved for just good pieces. Stone. Seguin back in the day, etc. Also the Habs first will be around 6th overall. It’s also not about Petterson specifically.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Savard is also bad now. Like he’s been worse than Tyler Myers over the last 3 seasons</div></div>
No he’s not. Still a solid vet, he’s on a bad team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:17 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>No team Is giving up a player of Petterssons caliber for that price</div></div>
Then they can add more or add different players. They just need to use their surplus of good young players to get a great one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:15 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>keidongiles</b></div><div>Scraps? It would be like 6th overall, Calgarys first in 2025, Harris or another young d coming off a good year, and a great young centre prospect. They could add more. Also read the description before commenting.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>You think Savard will fetch a first, and then you turn around with a bunch of scraps and expect to get Pettersson?</div></div>
Also, Savard literally went for a first a couple deadlines ago.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 22, 2023 at 12:00 a.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Canuck fans would want Seider from Detroit as a starter for Elias Pettersson, And you honestly think that garbage lands him? :shakehead</div></div>
Read the description before commenting.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 21, 2023 at 11:59 p.m.
Thread:
Petterson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>You think Savard will fetch a first, and then you turn around with a bunch of scraps and expect to get Pettersson?</div></div>
Scraps? It would be like 6th overall, Calgarys first in 2025, Harris or another young d coming off a good year, and a great young centre prospect. They could add more. Also read the description before commenting.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 19, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
Thread:
Benedict Arnold option 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>As long as Matthews is a leaf... Toronto will be on top of MTL/OTT/BUF... And Matthews is only 25, he's just entering his prime and the Leafs will do everything to resign him</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Maybe in 3years MTL will get a stud to consider leaving a winning team for a team that can “hopefully” win
But even that is a big maybe
MTL is still years away from competing in this division,
& quite far behind BUF, OTT & DET</div></div>
I’m not so sure about that. That is sleeping on the team and what they have. They will push for playoffs in 2024/25 believe it or not.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 4, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
Thread:
Potential swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Just_A_Guess</b></div><div>This is kind of a dense statement, no? Not saying the trade makes sense cause I really don't care but for a team wanting to make a run while Ovi is still Ovi you'd think 2.3 mil in cap space & a 5th round pick might appetize a GM.</div></div>
The Capitals are over the cap right now with 21 players rostered and Pac on IR.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 4, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
Thread:
Potential swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I wouldn’t add</div></div>
Armia has the extra year, so I threw in a 5th.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Jul. 4, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
Thread:
Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheOtherAuston</b></div><div>Terrible for leafs</div></div>
This is not terrible. Matheson is a great player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 15, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
Thread:
Opening lineup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>OS is kinda unrealistic and would be an unprotected 2024 first you sure that's the best way if a trade doesn't happen?</div></div>
That is a good point, I thought it was less. Either a trade or we wait for free agency. If Dubois does not sign long term with any other team they will accept this offer, it should be the best.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 4, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread:
Draft 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>The 1st and Kidney are an okay start, but the remainder needs a lot of work. The Jets won't be taking a cap dump back, so you'll need to dump Armia elsewhere. C level prospects and a 4th have no value, so they would need to be replaced with someone like Dach.</div></div>
This trade is of the assumption that it's true he will only sign long term in MTL. Gives WIN no choice and is probably the best deal they are offered due to the fact he will only sign long term in MTL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 14, 2022 at 1:03 a.m.
Thread:
So this is what it feels like to have a top 10 Center
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