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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 23, 2023 at 7:26 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Nope, I don't expect to get more than players are worth, I expect not to get dog**** picks that aren't even worth acquiring, while giving away assets for less than they're worth
- Leafs fans are delusional. Using their values as a basis is like using the opinion of a flat-earther's view on land curvature. Bert will return at LEAST 1 A+/A level asset and at least one additional A/A- level asset as a rental. If an extension is part of the deal, even more. Kerfoot is a cap dump, Liljegren would be buried on the depth chart behind Seider and Hronek and makes ZERO sense here (nor do I think Toronto would be willing to move him, so the fit makes even less sense) and a 3rd is an average asset at best. Toronto is HIGHLY unlikely to be a trade partner for Bertuzzi, as they are unlikely to pay what he would cost.
- Might as well just keep Suter down the stretch, rather than get a garbage 6th.
- There is zero incentive to trade Lindstrom, so adding him to that trade makes no sense. I actually don't have an issue with a 4th for Sunny straight up, but wouldn't be surprised if he returned a 3rd alone.
- Edmonton deal never even happens. Value on that one is actually fine, but basis is flawed.
- Vrana deal makes zero sense, both ways. Detroit is selling low and he's not a fit in Minnesota, especially with retaining for a season+. The gamble of holding onto him with hopes that his stock goes up is the right course of action. It's a gamble worth taking.

They should be looking to move Erne for a late pick and possibly Walman for a mid pick if they can't work out an extension.

Your proposed trades are just bad asset management.</div></div>

If you're a seller you should sell, even if it's for "dog sh*t picks. Get what you can for the dog sh*t players while you can.

I hope you're right on Bertuzzi, but I don't see Yzerman getting full value because of all of the injuries.

I tend to agree on Vrana. However, if he goes back up to Detroit, and goes on another heater, there will be teams calling, and Yzerman will definitely be listening.

You see ZERO incentive to trade Lindstrom, who is regularly a healthy scratch, but want to trade Walman, who has been one of our better left-handed defensemen, and currently on the top pair with Seider?
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 9, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 9, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2022 at 11:32 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>1. Greiss is absolutely a downgrade on Koskinen.

Koskinen: 3.16 GAA, .900 sv%, -0.324 gsax/60
Greiss: 3.36 GAA, .894 sv%, -0.372 gsax/60

A quick look at the prior 2 years (<a href="https://evolving-hockey.com/stats/goalie_standard/?_inputs_&amp;std_gl_adj=%22No%20Adjustment%22&amp;std_gl_status=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_info=%22No%22&amp;std_gl_fa=%2250%22&amp;std_gl_table=%22On-Ice%22&amp;std_gl_span=%22Regular%22&amp;std_gl_group=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_dft_yr=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_players=null&amp;std_gl_str=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_range=%22Seasons%22&amp;std_gl_season=%5B%2220202021%22%2C%2220192020%22%5D&amp;std_gl_team=%5B%22DET%22%2C%22EDM%22%2C%22NYI%22%5D&amp;std_gl_age1=%2217%22&amp;std_gl_age2=%2250%22" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">here</a>) shows Greiss hasn't been as good as Koskinen for several years.

2. Leddy is having a terrible year and the Oilers have Nurse and Keith holding down the top-4 LHD spots.
A quick look at <a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&amp;thruseason=20212022&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;stdoi=oi&amp;rate=r&amp;team=DET&amp;pos=D&amp;loc=B&amp;toi=250&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=&amp;td=&amp;tgp=410&amp;lines=single&amp;draftteam=ALL" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">NST</a> shows us that Leddy is the worse Detroit defenseman for GF% rel at -12.72. Who would he replace in Edmonton, Duncan Keith? He's the Oilers best regular defenseman by the same metric, at <a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20212022&amp;thruseason=20212022&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;stdoi=oi&amp;rate=r&amp;team=EDM&amp;pos=D&amp;loc=B&amp;toi=250&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=&amp;td=&amp;tgp=410&amp;lines=single&amp;draftteam=ALL" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">+4.59.</a>

Leddy is getting owned, even in relation to his teammates. And Keith has harder zone starts, fewer OTF starts and plays tougher comp than Leddy. Not a chance in 100 Leddy plays ahead of Keith.

Keith has played 33.7% of his TOI vs Elites (2nd most among Oilers defensemen).
Leddy has played 26.7% of his TOI vs Elites (4th most among Red Wings defensemen).</div></div>

I dont have the numbers in front of me, but I'd be willing to bet those numbers looked very different last season (Keith in Chicago &amp; Leddy in New York). You think Keith all of a sudden found his game at the tender age of 38, and Leddy all of a sudden lost his game at the age of 30? Or do you think maybe it has a lot more to do with the teams they've been traded to? Imagine how awful Keith would be in Detroit this season..... LOL
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 12:07 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
Thread: Jeidhd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>Real actual dollars is a heavy indicator of trade value for some/most teams. We can look at Ottawa’s cap dump deals which involved a significantly lower cash vs AAV. We can also look to deals like ROR which were put through before his significant signing bonus was due. AAV determines who can take on a player without having to move another or possibly causing implications with future RFA/UFAs. We’ve recently seen teams like Detroit buy out contracts like Abdelkader which they didn’t need the cap but ultimately saved them in cash and that’s a team that profits a decent amount (~32M) even as a rebuilder. Teams like Detroit/NJ that are going to have massive amounts of cap space this offseason aren’t asking how much cap will be eaten by a deal but rather how long and how much real cash to buy X asset(s).</div></div>

You're comparing the Detroit Red Wings (Chris Ilitch), a team (owner) more than willing to spend money to improve the team, to the Ottawa Senators (Eugene Melnyk), a team (owner) that trades away good players when they're up for a big raise to save money. I'm not sure what bonuses and buy-outs have to do with anything here... The specific examples you're bringing up have nothing to do with this particular trade scenario.
The Red Wings have the cap space to acquire cap dumps, but they're not going to take on significant term. Two year's of a player like Jake Gardiner is exactly the type of trade Yzerman should be looking to make. And the proposed trade was about right value wise in my opinion.