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Armchair-GM
Jan. 31, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>I basically used that in this very AGM. You folks are so original.
His name can't be released because IF there were as many leaks in NHL team front offices everyone would be fired. Insider information is bullpoo. But the sheep keep clicking...</div></div>
Haha dude I just looked at your AGM teams, and this makes a lot more sense now. Your Pittsburgh bias is ridiculous, I can't tell if your teams are supposed to be jokes or not
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 31, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
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Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>I don't have a The Athletic subscription so i don't know what was linked. Was it an "unnamed" Exec? So it could be the guy in charge of housekeeping at the Hall of Fame? VP in charge of media relations for Mystery NHL Team Gamma? Got you to click on their "article" though, right?</div></div>
Haha keep grasping at straws. The Athletic is a top sports website and wouldn't include it if it wasn't legit. I come up with an actual NHL source that believes he's worth a first-round pick and all you can do is lamely suggest that because the person isn't named they don't actually matter; when anybody could realize that the name can't be released because it's almost the Trade Deadline and they'd be tipping their hand. You're a pretty narrow-minded person when it comes to asset management from a hockey perspective, continue to live in delusion
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 31, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>On wow, a glorified blogger said so so it must be true... Who doesn't have a handle on what?</div></div>
It was an NHL executive being quoted, bud. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Good luck tricking some GM into giving a 1st+ for zero-impact Athanasiou.</div></div>
<a href="https://theathletic.com/1560427/2020/01/28/who-says-no-nhl-executives-evaluate-your-trade-proposals/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://theathletic.com/1560427/2020/01/28/who-says-no-nhl-executives-evaluate-your-trade-proposals/</a>
From this article:
"I don’t think they’d have a big issue getting rid of Athanasiou but they can get a first-rounder at the deadline for Athanasiou with a year left in RFA."
You sound like you don't have a great handle on RFA/UFA and how much that impacts player value.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>The only thing he has over Galchenyuk is RFA vs UFA.
Daley is basically valueless. He's a nice guy, but he is a #7D on any contending team. Nothing but injury depth. Future consideration or a 7th type value.
Bottom line is that replacing Galchenyuk with Athanasiou on the Pens roster doesn't make any real impact on the Pens chances of winning come playoff time. No improvement. Why would the Pens "pay" for no improvement?.</div></div>
First, the "only thing" being RFA as opposed to UFA is huge. Qualify Athanasiou, and if you can't come to terms with him and he signs somewhere else you're looking at at least a 3rd round pick assuming he gets more than $1.5M, which he will. Even if that doesn't happen, Pittsburgh would be able to move his RFA rights for AT LEAST a 3rd round pick at the draft if they didn't want to sign him.
Second, as I said above Rutherford said that he's looking for younger guys who play fast and can fit with Malkin. That is not Galchenyuk. That is Athanasiou. You can't look at P/60 in this case because the players are so stylistically different and would play such different roles. Galchenyuk is on his 3rd team in 3 seasons. Rutherford has been trying to give him away, and he can't. Meanwhile an exec went on record and said that if Detroit shops Athanasiou, they could get a 1st round pick for him in the right situation.
As I said in the original post, Daley is a throw-in. If you guys don't want him who the hell cares - it's just veteran depth for the playoffs, and Daley has already won 2 Cups in Pittsburgh. He knows the system and he knows the players. And you're completely ignoring the Sharks' pick, which is shaping up to be mid-60's.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Athanasiou is not a better version of Hags. I don't know how people make this stuff up.</div></div>
Hagelin's best offensive season is 38 points - Athanasiou scored 30 goals last year. He's not as good defensively as Hagelin but you guys have plenty of defensively responsible guys to cover for him. Read Rutherford's interview, he specifically says he wants young guys who can play fast and fit with Malkin. That's Athanasiou to a T. If you don't agree with the trade then that's fine but don't pretend Hagelin at his peak was as much of a threat as Athanasiou.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 30, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline Moves PIT and BOS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Bruins have been steadfast that they will not trade a 1st to move Backes unless it is in a large deal that will bring back a significant piece. This does not.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div> Rather just buy him out and keep the 1st.</div></div>
The "significant piece" is cap space. Even if he's buried in the minors, he still counts for almost $5M against the cap and you guys have to sign Krug, DeBrusk, Chara, etc. this summer. Buying him out saves you less than $1M in cap space next year, as he'd still count for $4M. Use your head before shooting down stuff just because your team has to give up an asset. That's the price you pay for signing crap deals - believe me, as a Wings fan I wish I could get rid of our garbage with a single 1st round pick. You get Perlini, a 23 year old who has looked okay prior to this year, when he's spent the majority of it on one of the worst teams in NHL history. Nobody's taking Backes off your hands for a 4th round pick, bud.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2019 at 4:16 p.m.
Thread:
Reasonable Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DOTFAM</b></div><div>What you are asking NSH to give up is a lot for Nyquist IMO, too. Look at the Evander Kane trade last year for example. That 1st rd pick SJ gave up was conditional on Kane signing a long-term extension.</div></div>
The whole thing there is that they'd be getting back NYI's 2nd rounder, which will probably be in the late 40's/early 50's. Since Nashville's 1st is likely going to be in the tail end of the 1st, they'd really just be moving a round back. Maybe the trade is Fabbro and a 2nd for Nyquist and a 3rd, and if the Preds make the WCF those move up to Fabbro and a 1st for Nyquist and a 2nd. I don't think this happens regardless, but if it's true that Fabbro could potentially go the Jimmy Vesey route and not sign with the Preds then maybe there's a little more incentive to move him while his value is still high.
The Sharks situation is fascinating to me. It sounds like Karlsson is enjoying his time there and seems like he'll re-sign, but if there are doubts about him coming back it would be brutal to lose arguably their best Cup shot because of Jones. Jones being signed for another 5 years complicates things too, because bringing in outside help will likely affect Jones' confidence; and if he doesn't get back to form that contract becomes an albatross. Like I said I don't think any of these actually happen, but the Sharks deal in particular I thought was interesting.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2019 at 2:17 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs kicking tires for Glendening
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Zaitsev on every other team other than Detroit is GOOD! He is played on bad position to not succeed. He plays like 7th D with Gardiner and plays like 3-4 guy without him. Its just that. Once he is out, he would be for some surprisingly great, for me it would be "told ya" moment. He is good trust me. He just needs a defenceman besides him not scared lost forward on D in Gardiner..</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goulet</b></div><div>The Wings are built on players with "that contract" and Zaitsev would be the best of the bunch.</div></div>
Don't disagree that Zaitsev isn't a bad defenseman, he just doesn't line up with our window to compete; by the time the Wings will be actually contending he'll probably be 30. We're trying to make space for a couple of our defensive prospects as it is, Zaitsev would just be adding to the logjam. Maybe if Daley or Ericsson was going the other way, but I don't think Toronto would want that.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs kicking tires for Glendening
No thanks to Zaitsev and that contract, especially if we're including Jensen.
For what it's worth, as a Wings fan I don't understand why you guys would trade for LGD. He's a solid player but you're slightly upgrading the 4th line and further complicating your cap situation, which doesn't make sense to me.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread:
Reasonable Deadline Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>really you think they'll give you fabbro? ill certainly take it I just have doubts.</div></div>
I figure their top 4 is pretty much set for the foreseeable future, and they've got some other defensive prospects that project as solid players so they don't need him. I think a decent prospect that they don't have a ton of room for and 20 spots in the draft is pretty reasonable to get a legit scoring winger, considering the rumored prices on Panarin/Stone/Simmons/Duchene.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 5, 2019 at 2:18 p.m.
Thread:
Nyquil at the deadline
As a Wings fan, I'd take this deal in a heartbeat.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 30, 2018 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
Me as a GM of Detroit.. final piece..
Keeping Turgeon over Svechnikov is lunacy.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 16, 2018 at 10:51 a.m.
Thread:
After Hank - Youth Movement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blanche</b></div><div>I obviously don't follow the Wings as much as you do and have little knowledge about your prospect pool but I took time to look up the prospects you mentioned. Rasmussen looks promising but soft as he has not played more than 50 games the last two season in WHL. Berggren is not even signed by the Wings. Svechnikov might make the show, stats aside who knows. Veleno hasn't signed with Detroit yet either. To summarize, 2 of the 4 players listed as high propects are not even signed by the Wings and the other two have potential and yet no defense prospects to replacing your aging core, as said before why move your most promising young dman in Jensen, moving him will not help the cap issues.</div></div>
This illustrates why you should do a little more homework before commenting on another team's prospects. Veleno and Berggren aren't signed yet because they were literally just drafted. It's not uncommon at all for players just drafted to wait a year before signing their ELCs, especially those who don't have a shot to play in the NHL the year they're drafted. Rasmussen is "soft" because he had a fractured wrist this year? That's obtuse. Guess the 33 points in 14 playoff games count for nothing. I'm not taking shots at you because you're a Habs fan, I'm taking issue with you talking like you know about the players in the Wings' system when you clearly don't.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2018 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread:
After Hank - Youth Movement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blanche</b></div><div>Fantastic, however, it doesn't answer your cap issues for this season nor does it answer if Zetterberg will be playing. Every article I had a look at today has the Wings GM commenting and how he doesn't know what is Zetterberg's status? Why not pick up the phone and call Zetterberg and ask or maybe even get a physical done. It's hard to understand how this franchise operates. I believe the glory years are behind them and that the future is bleak. I do like Bertuzzi, Mantha, Larkin and Zadina after that it's not very clear where this team is headed.</div></div>
Judging by your tons of Montreal Armchair GM teams, you're a Canadiens fan. So it's clear you have no idea what our prospect pool is like; we also have Rasmussen, Berggren, Svechnikov, and Veleno, all of whom project to be good NHL forwards. Also, do you really think it's as easy as just getting a physical? He's 38, it's all about how his back feels to him when the season starts, not a doctor. You're pretty misinformed.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 14, 2018 at 5:53 p.m.
Thread:
After Hank - Youth Movement
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blanche</b></div><div>I am not surprised that the Wings are in cap trouble. I put out an armchair GM about the cap issues for 2018-19, in fact, Larkishin, a Wings fan was very adamant that there would be no issues. Haven't seen him on the site in a while. Not sure what the solution is here, but whomever is the gm in Detroit is far worse than Bergevin. I don't see anyone taking on any of those contracts proposed in trade and I doubt very much Isles would move Ho Sang for Nyquist. Maybe Bertuzzi for Ho Sang but that doesn't solve your cap issues. Bonne chance.</div></div>
First - there aren't cap issues on this team, there's over $9M in cap space after the LTIRetirement of Zetterberg. Did you look at the roster? Second - Holland gives out brutal contracts to bottom six players, but he doesn't trade away stars like Bergevin does so I'm gonna disagree hard there. Bergevin is a world class idiot. Third - Edmonton's looking for a right handed puck moving defenseman; Jensen is that, and he's cheap. Babcock loves Glendening, and at $1M per season he's not a bad deal for a 4th round pick. The Islanders have had nothing but issues with Ho-Sang and need to replace offense with Tavares leaving. Nyquist is a top 6 forward and costs them a prospect they clearly don't plan on playing anyway, plus they get a 4th round pick out of it. It's not a slam dunk by any means, but it's not a ridiculous proposal at all.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 10, 2018 at 1:05 p.m.
Thread:
Getting Under the Cap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluejackets2000</b></div><div>Bergevin an idiot? Not just any idiot, but a world class idiot?
I think we are supposed to use softer terms these days, how about mental midget? intellectually challenged? few cards short of a deck? both oars don't reach the water? the light is on but no one's home?</div></div>
Haha well regardless, I removed the Spezza to Montreal trade; it sounds like it's more likely than not Zetterberg might not be coming back. So I kept Spezza on Detroit to serve as 3C.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 9, 2018 at 4:29 p.m.
Thread:
Deal w Hawks
Athanasiou for a spare part in Kampf and 4th and 5th round picks? Brutal return for AA.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 2, 2018 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread:
Pac Man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeinousFulcrum</b></div><div>This would all be contingent on him signing a reasonable extension; something similar to James Neals' contract.</div></div>
Yeah thanks to DonVito for that illuminating response. I wouldn't attach our 1st round pick regardless; if Pacioretty signed a deal like Neal, no more than 5 years and $6M or less per year, I would for sure trade Helm and Nyquist for him, and maybe throw in a 3rd round pick or something. But I think after being pretty underpaid on his last contract, he's going to be looking for something more in the $7M range, and I would be SHOCKED if Montreal traded him in-division, especially to a team like Detroit. No doubt Pacioretty is going to want to light Montreal up after what he's been put through, and I think if they can they're going to deal him to a Western conference team.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 1, 2018 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
Pac Man
It makes zero sense to trade what will likely be a high 1st round pick for a season of Pacioretty, even if it removes Helm's deal. Even if we re-sign Pacioretty, he'll be 31 or 32 by the time we'll be ready to make noise in the playoffs again. Hard pass.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 1, 2018 at 5:11 p.m.
Thread:
2018 Wings Trade and Deadline deals
I'm sorry, but even as a Wings fan these trades are extremely lopsided. Vancouver isn't trading Demko, and certainly not for Bernier and Axel Holmstrom. Glendening and Kronwall wouldn't fetch two 3rd round picks and a 5th, and if anything we'd have to throw in a 3rd in the Svechnikov/Bean deal, not the other way around.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 31, 2018 at 2:01 p.m.
Thread:
Detroit 2019-20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeinousFulcrum</b></div><div>I do not see the Klefbom trade happening. I think the 3rd round pick is an overpayment, and I don't see Mike Green waving his NTC. </div></div>
Green's NTC turns into a 10 team no-trade at the 2019-20 trade deadline; if the Oilers are in a playoff spot, I think he would accept the deal with the idea of padding his stats playing with McDavid, in an effort to get a bigger deal the following offseason. As for the 3rd being an overpay, I disagree; Klefbom just turned 25 and is on a fantastic deal.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeinousFulcrum</b></div><div>I would be okay with signing Skinner to a 6 year deal in the range of 6 million. </div></div>
I wouldn't hate that deal, I feel like it'd have to be more in the $7M range though. Pitching him $8M over 3 takes him to his age 30 season, and I would point to the deal James Neal just signed as a 30 year old (5 years, $5.75M). He'd be one of the focal points of Detroit's offense, which would pad his stats and improve his outlook for the next deal. With the cap increasing, he could be looking at something like $6.5 over 5 on his next deal; that'd be an average of just over $7M over 8 years, which is better than $6M over 6. That being said, there's obviously more security and less injury risk with your proposal.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 13, 2018 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
2019-20 Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dtd_tank</b></div><div>$8M on Duchene is absolutely ludacris, but it's a short term deal and hopefully doesn't kill our team with how much cap we'd have. I'd prefer we go over somebody of higher caliber obviously (if available... Panarin, Seguin, Skinner, etc - mostly wingers but we could keep Nielsen as 2C for a year until Rasmussen or Veleno are able to play there)</div></div>
Yeah I don't disagree that it's too much, but with extensions needed for Mantha and Athanasiou, and a potentially big contract on the horizon for Zadina, I didn't want to give too much term. I used the Stasny deal from a few years ago as the base for it, and the fact that Duchene would only be 28 at the start of it. I don't think Panarin or Seguin would make it to free agency (maybe Panarin but I'm skeptical), but Skinner is an intriguing option I hadn't thought about.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dtd_tank</b></div><div>Regarding the Klefbom trade, I think it's feasible without including Svechnikov, personally. Not sure what EDM thinks.</div></div>
I was trying to be as objective as possible; I like Svechnikov and I don't want to see him moved, but I couldn't see Edmonton going for just Green, Saarijarvi, and a 3rd, and Svechnikov gives value without including one of our big prospects.
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