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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2021 at 6:51 p.m.

Thread: Boom A thing

I think canucks say no to this, because if petey goes there are no cap problems. If petey gets offer-sheeted 10x7, just take the 4 first rounders over the trade you have above

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.

Thread: shuffle

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Riley816</b></div><div>Ouch. Seattle gets dumped on for a 2022 2nd...</div></div>

seattle will pick one of macewen or lind. they then get a serviceable albeit overpaid defenseman for a b-tier prospect/nhl 4th liner (the other of macewan or lind) and a 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.

Thread: Screw it

Id do all this and add:
-sign podkolzin
-virtanen for a depth dman (nutivara?)
-schmidt to LD

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.

Thread: next season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BubbleDemko</b></div><div>Vancouver trade is not going to ever happen. Canucks have put Beagle on LTIR already. Jay Beagle is now enjoying retirement with one of those fake injuries that the league allows.</div></div>

swap beagle with roussel and i'd think about it!

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:23 p.m.

Thread: 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>I think the 6 million cap hit was the deciding factor in that trade, so my point still stands. Saving real money should be considered, but I think in this cap environment the AAV is the number GM’s are most concerned about. If you guys did this on the draft day then I think a 2021 pick would be in play, but in any case you should add more to the trade.</div></div>

"I think the 6 million cap hit was the deciding factor in that trade"
this is fair - especially when trading to CHI which could in principle come close to the cap. non-cap teams, maybe not

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.

Thread: revisiting jimbos obsessions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>desertdog111</b></div><div>Ekman-Larson is scoring at a 50 point pace this year and Kessel leads the team in goals on a 30 goal pace. Vancouver needs to add by a lot. Plus OEL said he is not going to waive his NMC</div></div>

He is also the 12th worst defenceman in the league by 5v5 xGF% for players with more than 120 mins played.

xGF%:
OEL: 41%, 12th worst
Myers: 43.5%, 27th worst
...out of 235 qualifying defencemen.

Anyway neither of these players are good. The value to vancouver in the trade is dumping roussel and eriksson. The value for the coyotes is getting out of the massive financial commitment of OEL's contract, especially the next few years where he's making 10.5 million real cash per season

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:13 p.m.

Thread: revisiting jimbos obsessions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Myers contract is way worst than OEL’s, sure OEL is longer and a little heftier but he’s a little bit younger and way better, OEL contract finishes when he’s 36 and Myers when he’s 35. Kessel, Roussel and Loui have the same amount of term. Ari gets 3 million more for basically AHL’ers, while Kessel is Ari leading point scorer.</div></div>

Fair enough, but the premise of this trade is that OEL's contract and Myers' contract are similarly bad (OEL because he's way overpaid, Myers because he's bad and overpaid), but the value to Arizona is in the $21 million in savings.

FWIW Myers turns 34 in the last year of his deal, not 35.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.

Thread: 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PeterForsberg21</b></div><div>I don't see VAN buying out Virtanen and Holtby, Aquilini would not allow it.</div></div>

if virtanen truly has negative value (which IMO is not the case but people are all over on this one) then it would save aqualini 2/3rds of the remaining cash to buy out this deal, which I imagine he would not have a problem with. similar in a sense for holtby: if a replacement can be had for less than the difference between his 2021-2022 salary (5.7 million) and the buyout cost (3.8 million) I don't think there would be a problem.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.

Thread: 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>I get that you don’t want to trade a first to get rid of Eriksson, but that’s actually the going price for a one year cap dump BEFORE the flat cap as seen in the Carolina/Toronto trade. So you probably need to add to the Chicago trade. I would start with your second this year, and work from there.</div></div>

"as seen in the Carolina/Toronto trade"
That was 6 million cap hit, 6 million real salary. Eriksson will have 3 million real salary after signing bonuses are paid. Presumably 2021 pick is not included so that the signing bonuses have been paid (i.e. after the draft this year)

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

Thread: revisiting jimbos obsessions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>Arizona stays far away from that one.</div></div>

saves them money and cap space in the long run, care to elaborate?

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.

Thread: recycling some ideas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vermathex</b></div><div>would be a smart move to OS pelech. Hes worth whatever you can give. You'll have to give so much to make isles not match it</div></div>

i think that 6.5 number is just past the verge of what NYI could comfortably match without making major moves

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.

Thread: send nutes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Nice thats a much better version of the canucks.The only thing i would do different is keep Motte, hes a keeper hes just gonna get better in my opinion.Maybe Myers and a second?</div></div>

I love motte but I think a second isnt enough to induce seattle to pick myers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Doubt if Seattle wants to burdened with years of 6m Myers. Why does Johnson waive for Vancouver? Beagle on LTIR?</div></div>

agreed, would need sweetener. Why Johnson waives for Vancouver: tampa asks nicely... not sure! He is one of the prime candidates for tampa to shed salary but theyd obviously have to get him to agree. Beagle is currently on LTIR and it has been reported (by dhaliwal) that he is likely to be out for a chunk of next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 7, 2021 at 6:06 p.m.

Thread: lets get these boys on o2 next season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoopsTroops</b></div><div>Cernak isn't available. He's probably the #3 protection in the expansion. Protected whether we go 4-4 or 7-3.</div></div>

interesting! so mcdonagh exposed then? i guess that makes sense. or for 4-4, do you leave gourde, cirelli, killorn unprotected?

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1, 2021 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: do it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Lol. No</div></div>

I think this is one of the few ways buffalo will get out from skinners contract - they won't find a team to eat the whole thing. It lines up perfectly with their timeline! They eat a lot of bad cap in year 1, and then benefit over the long term. Here's the year-by-year breaddown of the impact of this trade on their cap: (+ means more cap hit relative to the alternative, - means more cap space):
9.5, -0.3, 3.5, -0.7, -2.2, -3.2, -1.2, -1.2, -1.2, -1.2, -1.2, -1.2

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 9:35 p.m.

Thread: do it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CeciGOAT</b></div><div>I don’t think Quinn Hughes is exempt. Is it not the same case as Petersson? Or is it different because Hughes burned his first year?</div></div>

hughes is exempt, peteys not. i think its cause hughes only played 9 games in his first "year"

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.

Thread: Next Year

i think thats an overpay to dump eriksson. lind is probably one of the best players available for them to pick anyway

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.

Thread: Next year

petey for 4 years walks him to UFA, needs to be <= 3 years

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.

Thread: do it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>God8069</b></div><div>Fair enough my apologies</div></div>

oh no i took your comment as a compliment. was trying to come up with something so crazy that it just might work

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.

Thread: do it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>God8069</b></div><div>That Sabres trade is peak NHL Franchise Mode</div></div>

i'd like to think its my armchair gm magnum opus

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28, 2021 at 7:05 a.m.

Thread: PLEASE DO NOT TRADE SHOT GUN JAKE

Couldn't be <em>worst</em> than your grammar

Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 17, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

Thread: Reset

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Twins1568</b></div><div>I'm trying to figure out what you mean, english's not y primary language</div></div>

my bad!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>major_hassle</b></div><div>hard no from van. the vancouver side of that trade is a who's who of cost-controlled/cost-effective players for the canucks for several seasons to come</div></div>

Vancouver says no. The vancouver side of the van-buf trade is:
Demko, Höglander, Horvat, MacEwen, Motte all of whom are either restricted free agents (Demko, Hoglander, MacEwan) or signed to at least two more years at very team-friendly cap hits (Horvat, Motte).

The buffalo side is:
Eichel, Thompson, Mittelstadt

IMO
Motte + MacEwen > Thompson + Mittelstadt
So you basically want
Demko, Höglander, Horvat and a 1st for Eichel. This might not be a massive overpay for Eichel but this is Vancouver losing the strong players from the middle of its roster to get another top end talent in Eichel

Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 17, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.

Thread: Reset

hard no from van. the vancouver side of that trade is a who's who of cost-controlled/cost-effective players for the canucks for several seasons to come

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.

Thread: dunn

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Dunn is a legitimate top pairing caliber defenseman.</div></div>

the guy with the 5th most toi per game on st louis?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.

Thread: going forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>From the description;
"zaitzev (1 mill retained) for myers and virtanen: canucks pay ottawa virtanen to eat 1.5 million a year in the cap difference between zaitzev and myers. ottawa saves 0.5 million (myers is owed less real dollars after july 1)."

People make these kind of comments and then wonder why they get flamed, lol.

Virtanen is an overpaid 4th line winger, and that's the payment for taking an overpaid defenceman and retaining on a defenceman that's playing well?!?!?!</div></div>

i realize also that i didnt delete the comment about 1 mill retained - you can see in the trade that there is no retention

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.

Thread: going forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>From the description;
"zaitzev (1 mill retained) for myers and virtanen: canucks pay ottawa virtanen to eat 1.5 million a year in the cap difference between zaitzev and myers. ottawa saves 0.5 million (myers is owed less real dollars after july 1)."

People make these kind of comments and then wonder why they get flamed, lol.

Virtanen is an overpaid 4th line winger, and that's the payment for taking an overpaid defenceman and retaining on a defenceman that's playing well?!?!?!</div></div>

i think its a bit disingenuous to call virtanen either overpaid or 4th line - obviously struggling to start the season (like much of the canucks roster) but he's good for 15-20 goals per season, even in limited minutes. definitely not overpaid at 2.55 per year and cost-controlled

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