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MK458
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Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 1:43 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>First of all, Nylander is worth 11 mil. I've been saying this for a long time now. If you don't think so - you're simply wrong

Second, he signed at a similar cap% as comparable wingers at the time like Benn, Stone, and Perry. Don't let the raw number fool you this isnt out of the blue.

Third and most importantly, Trev completely ****ed this negotiation up. If they were scared Nylander might walk - the time to "cave in" was in the summer. As it stands Nylander is at peak value and there is no reason to cave now 30 some odd games after refusing to go above 9mil. They should have waited out the year and let Reinhart get a comparable deal or let Willie cool off. Even if he didn't they could always just pay him this in June no problem. No one in the league can match 92 million dollars!

There was no risk!

What a horrible GM Trev has turned out to be. Worst fears confirmed about him

Fourth, I am very exited to have Willie be a life long leaf. Amazing player who has the perfect mentality for the market. Ideal Leaf and for that reason its still a good deal even with Trev being a panicky idiot.

I expect CF to vote it down. They also voted down both Matthews deals so that should tell you how little you should value that

Of course there are the usual worries about deals like this aging but I don't see any reason to suggest the risk is any more than any other comparable star so whatever. Would have liked us to get this down to 5 or 6 years given the aav, but I'll live with it.

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I figure he will drop down to somewhere around a point per game to a 100 point pace for the next few years, and that's fine for what he will cost</div></div>

This is pretty bang on. This contract is far better than losing Nylander for nothing, and if you were trying to win this player over to your team, you sign it in a heartbeat.

The big L here for BT is that he allowed it to get to this point. There was a lot of risk of this happening, and it was obviously there. Expectations changed the second the NHL announced a cap increase for next season, and throw in Nylander's point streak and another year where he just plain looks better than the year prior (which has been Nylander's trajectory) and you basically have a GM that lit $1.5M in cap space on fire trying to save $500K. That's a terrible bet.

Reality is, when the Leafs ask was just under $9M and Nylander was at $10M, they should have realized there was more for Nylander to gain than the Leafs, and should have hammered away at it until a deal was done in the offseason. You could have just caved and gave him $10M and that would have been a win in hindsight.

BT's decision making has been mostly very poor with Toronto, but I think it's Shanahan that really should be feeling the heat. Forget about what people think of Dubas, but how does a president of hockey operations go from offering an extension to Dubas to firing him over a 48 hour period with no backup plan in place? What other organization would fire their GM in the middle of their competitive window? I mean I get the lack of playoff wins, but still, no other team would fire a GM of a team that has the record that the Leafs had over the last 5 seasons, especially going into an absolutely critical 24 month window where every star forward will need a new contract.

If this Leafs core ever wins, it's now going to be in spite of management, not assisted by it.
Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 1:33 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 4:22 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 3:27 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 3:19 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>What about 2 seconds with one of them turning into a 1st if the Oilers make it to the conference finals if the Oilers make it to the conference finals?

I totally see where you're coming from asking for a 1st rounder, but there should be a lot of centers availabe this deadline: Jason Dickinson (12 g 18 pts), Henrique (10 g 19 pts), Jack Roslovic (0.5 ppg), and potentially Lindholm (8g 25 pts), Wennberg (5g 15 pts), and Pinto just to name a few.

If all you could get was a 2nd that could turn into a 1st based on conditions, would that not be enough to make Montreal bite on a player they were paid to acquire?</div></div>

Something like Lavoie and a 2nd might work, but it's hard to say how high teams are willing to go this year because so many went hard last year.
A 1st is more likely to get it done, but there might be multiple offers of a 2nd + prospect to choose from instead, then it comes down to who Montreal wants.

It may be worth it for Edmonton to offer a 1st(+) simply because he's the best value in performance vs cap at the TDL and they can avoid the higher cost of dumping Campbell for at least this year while still adding at the deadline.
They should also be highly interested in Kovacevic should he be available, for much the same reason.

Edmonton needs to get value wherever they can to shore up their roster for serious runs and that's going to mean paying a price. Tampa never bulked at paying high prices to do what was necessary and that's the kind of approach you need through a stagnant cap period.

There is no future for Edmonton. McDavid is it. Nothing matters beyond getting a cup while they have him.
They have to make the right moves, but they have to be aggressively pursuing that goal every year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5 at 2:41 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 23, 2023 at 2:27 a.m.