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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.

Thread: Next Moves

Middleton’s cap hit won’t start with a 2. Evolving hockey has him at 1.13M on a 3 year deal. And 1.5M on a 4/5 year deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2022 at 11:44 p.m.

Thread: If a trade for Kevin Fiala turns out like the trade for Sam Reinhart

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Last year, Reinhart was playing for Buffalo though.</div></div>

If Reinhart would have put up the numbers he did this year, last year with Buffalo, he would’ve gotten much more then he got dealt for, exactly what minny is going to get.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.

Thread: Dumba and Fiala gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Goligoski should not be playing in the top 4 and I think it's clear the organization doesn't trust Addison. I think it looks pretty rough personally without Dumba. I'd much rather just hang onto Dumba and not sign Cole and AA.</div></div>

And let Dumba walk for nothing next year?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:50 p.m.

Thread: Dumba and Fiala gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Not sure why he'd want to sign with a team that's a dumpster fire, But i guess with him living there anything is possible.</div></div>

I mean obviously the guy likes the place considering he lives there during the less desirable time of year to be there, and Dumba is historically a frequenter of College/mid twenties bars in the MSP area, im sure he’d love playing at ASU.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.

Thread: Dumba and Fiala gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensburgh571</b></div><div>Ottawa and Arizona both pass pretty easily. Everyone in the league knows about the Wild's impending cap doom so no one is giving up premium assets for 1 single year of Duma or the right to over-pay Fiala.</div></div>

Fiala is going to get dealt for a premium package, billy G can still sign him longer term than anybody else and be under the cap you’d have to move Dumba and one of Jost Kulikov Hartman or Freddy to get it done but it can still be done.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.

Thread: Dumba and Fiala gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Defense is rough IMO. I'd just keep Dumba. You can afford him if you don't sign Cole and AA</div></div>

Defense is fine the idea here is Addison and Goose split games on the 2nd pair to keep Goose fresh

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: Dumba and Fiala gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Detroit passes, And why would Dumba waive for Arizona?</div></div>

Dumba lives in Arizona in the summer. I’m SURE he would be willing to go to AZ and sign a long contract there.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 1:48 p.m.

Thread: next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I can't think of a single reason he ever would want to sign an extension there. Also previously mentioned Dumba is significantly older than Chychrun and the only reason your "average GSVA's" are close is because of the disaster of a team Arizona is this year vs how good Minnesota is</div></div>

Again, Dumba lives in Arizona during the summer, I would assume he probably likes the area and would sign an extension there. Dumba is 3.5 years older, but still only going to be 28. Their counting stats through their first 340 GP are incredibly similar. If you wanna exclude their worst year for Average GSVA, Dumba is at 1.1 Chycrun is at 1.3. Go look at any advanced metrics over a large sample size and you will see they are similar players. Plus the clock is ticking on Az trading Chycrun as his M-NTC kicks in after next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.

Thread: next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Ah yes the single defining stat of a player</div></div>

Not the single defining stat of a player by any means, but definitely a good indicator. Their Stats are incredibly similar, and if dumba wanted to sign for 6 years in AZ that would be better for their franchise.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.

Thread: next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>No, it isn't.

Dumba is worse, 4 years older and more expensive</div></div>

Chychrun last 4 years: 1.1,1.2,1.8,-.3(pace) 4 year average .95
Dumba last 4 years: 1,.5,1.1,1.2(pace) 4 year average .95
If dumba were to sign an extension of at least 4 years its worth it for AZ.
Addison is an NHLer right now as well

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.

Thread: next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Carson</b></div><div>Dumba isn't accepting a trade to Arizona or signing an extension there</div></div>

Dumba lives in AZ during the offseason, I can definitely see him accepting a trade there and signing an extension.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.

Thread: next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That's horrible for Arizona</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Zero chance Arizona does that</div></div>

Their GSVA over the last 4 years is extremely similar, add in another Defensemen thats got upside and would play in the NHL next year its a pretty fair deal

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.

Thread: Whats the move now Billy

0% Chance Middelton's extension starts with a 3, or even a 2. Guy has a 787,500 QO, and has played 62 NHL games as of now. BG will gladly take him to arb and win. His extension max will be 1.5M

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 29, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.

Thread: Goligoski extension why

Im guessing Kulikov is gone. I doubt Middleton will be signed with a number that starts with a 2, especially if he is an RFA. Guerin would definitely qualify him at 787,500. My guess is Middleton will sign an extension similar to JM. D-Pairs next year being Middelton-Spurgeon, Brodin-Dumba, Merril- Goose with Addison as 7th D or we trade addison. also could see a dumba trade now, gives BG certainty that he has 4 D-men locked in after next year, and I would guess a 5th with Middelton re-signing.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.

Thread: Fleury traded

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>only team in the west that's better is Colorado in my opinion. Wild got Middleton too</div></div>

Wild need to beat the AVS, for it to become a 1st. If we do beat the AVS totally fine giving up pick #28-32 for Fleury, we would still have 3 2nd round picks, and our prospect pipeline is one of the best right now.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Fiala has 81 points in his last 82 games-- I don't see him signing for any less than $7m.</div></div>

My thing is, Billy G can offer him that 6th year nobody else can do via offer sheet. If somebody gives him 7X6m offer sheet, i doubt billy G matches that. I see billy G going for 6.5 X 6 or 7 with fiala.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.

Thread: Deadline deals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>orangeweiner22</b></div><div>-5m in cap space...</div></div>

https://www.capfriendly.com/trade-machine

Give it a try.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2022 at 11:35 a.m.

Thread: Fiala offer sheet

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EccE</b></div><div>I would take Seattle's 1st gladly. It would be in the top10 most likely, even in 2023. But I doubt that Fiala signs an offer sheet. It would have to be something like this, maybe even more but no contending team can afford that. And Fiala also wants to win</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cartersNo1</b></div><div>little much money, but if you dont want Minnesota to match it makes sense</div></div>

Yeah I mean it could be any team with the cap space, but I think this number is basically what Min can’t match. Unless a team offers a 6 year deal at 6.9 or above Min probably would match it (6x6.9 would bring the comp to 2 firsts a 2nd and 3rd)

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.

Thread: Keeping Dumba and Fiala

I would say Sturm is probably gone after his year and Mcbain is brought in for him, that would save you 600-700k, which would definitely go to Boldy I’d say a Boldy bridge will be 2m a year minimum.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.

Thread: Options

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nhn1405</b></div><div>pagnotta has already said smith is likely going to get a good package, compared the potential deal to foligno

vegas is also not moving stephenson, they have 0 reason to. legitimately one of the best value contracts in the league based of how he's played the last 2.5 years

and why tf would they take a cap dump back

keep dreaming</div></div>

Yes, because Vegas got top dollar for last years Vezina award winner last year…

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.

Thread: Options

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nhn1405</b></div><div>remove stephenson and rask and its closer lmfao</div></div>

You are kidding right? Vegas has to trade smith, nobody is lining up to take him off their hands so they can activate eichel.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.

Thread: Options

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GabrielJ</b></div><div>So you are trading for Reilly Smith to play on 4th line over connor dewar? Because he's not playing over any other wild wings. Not to mention the cap doesn't work</div></div>

If trade is made on March 6th or later, then the cap would work, Smith is added to drop the price for stephenson and more useful than rask for playoffs

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.

Thread: Helping Vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>Its going to be Dadanov moved before stephonson or even smith imo</div></div>

if they move Dadanov then its going to cost them even more to get rid of him though. 2 years at 5.1M mid season theres not a ton of options for that.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.

Thread: Helping Vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>robrob10</b></div><div>If Vegas trades Stephenson (which I don't think they will) he's worth as much as what it would take to acquire rentals (Hertl, Giroux, Pavelski, or even JT Miller). It would take a package similar to what I layed out to get one of those guys. Stephenson and his contract are as good a gamble as any one of those rentals.</div></div>

Okay so Lambos and 1st for Stephenson, then id say for Smith and his 5M cap hit, Vegas would be giving up a 3/4th and we would send back a 7th maybe? The key is that they HAVE to trade smith (or somebody similar) and there arent going to be teams that are willing to pay for him knowing this.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.

Thread: Helping Vegas

I dont think it makes sense for us to give Vegas this years 1st AND one of our top prospects so they can add Eichel to the lineup... that wouldnt be smart on our part. Id say vegas is going to have to pay to move smith.

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