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Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>On-ice stats are not individual, but they are still the product of the players on the ice. So you saying that Bouchard's sparkling defensive metrics are just because he plays with McDavid, and then turning around and denying that McDavid should get credit is a logical fallacy.

The fact is that the Oilers are the best team in the league when Bouchard is on the ice. Sure he doesn't get all the credit, but he's certainly part of it. Here's how you can know that: by looking at his results with and without McDavid.

Wow, we can see who is driving the bus in Colorado, and it's certainly not Makar. He can't even break even w/o MacKinnon, and yet he's considered a lock to be a Norris finalist.</div></div>

1 - No, I did not say anything like that. And the credit I gave to McD is related to gaining and maintaining O zone time, which by the law of there's only one puck on the ice equates to less time spent in the D zone. I'm not even sure why he has to be a Selke candidate to be great at piling up O zone time.

2 - Except nobody said he should not get some credit. They said hey, let's not get crazy with the credit and add some perspective. Those are two different animals.

3 - Heh. Okay, man. You've conflated so much stuff that I don't even know how this relates to the original topic. And I've seen far too much of Makar to bother arguing over his play driving acumen. That's just kooky.

And just FYI...
Makar v Bouchard
1.33 Giveaways/60 2.49
2.23 Takeaways/60 1.67
1.19 Hits/60 2.11
4.39 Shot Blocks/60 3.49
0.76 D Zone Giveways/60 1.52
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