moli92

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Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 5:04
Thread: Hall and Sevo bye
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>So you want a cup or bust this season unloading top assets and top prospects for hall bc there is no way he can be extended without sacrificing Landeskog, Makar Grubeaur cap space that you might actually create a situation that you cant afford to keep landeskog

Im no way is that smart for the avs who are just opening up a major cup window, why slam it shut by trading for and extending hall when you dont need to</div></div>

They can afford all of them. How do you figure it is cup or bust this season then reference people we have to re-sign in 2021?

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1509958">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1509958</a>

<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1509966">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1509966</a>

^ thats with conservative estimates of cap increase and generous contracts
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 4:02
Thread: Hall and Sevo bye
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>No Kreider could, but you can alos justify putting Kreider on your 3rd line as well. A 1st or 2nd + a mid level prospect deadline deal for a middle 6 foward like Kreider or Pageau makes more sense then young roster player, top propsect, multiple top picks for hall taht isnt needed.

You are missing the point, why pay top line price for a guy that wont play on the top line and doesnt fill a void in the roster</div></div>

1. When healthy there isnt a void at 2LW or 3LW for Kreider either so I dont understand how you can be so against adding Hall but be for adding Kreider when all of your arguments against adding a player can be made against both Hall and Kreider. How is Kreider needed but Hall isnt?

2. Im not missing the point, I already addressed this. Just because you call a line the "1st line" and another line the "2nd line" doesnt mean that the "2nd line" cant have elite players on it. Hall would still get tons of ice time and tons of opportunity on a separate line than MacKinnon. Kane and Toews play on different lines, Crosby and Malkin play on different lines, Tavares and Matthews play of different lines. You make it seem like having more than 1 line with elite players on it is a bad thing.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 3:53
Thread: Schnieder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>Fair enough, just thinking out load</div></div>

if he had a 1 year deal that would be a different story and you could make an argument, but at the same time we probably wont have to start Werner or Bibeau again anytime soon

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Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 3:41
Thread: Hall and Sevo bye
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Bc you are paying top line prices to get him but move him down to the 2nd line and 2nd pp unit. I dont see how thats good asset management. <strong> also now you are having Bura who is playing well, and plays his best hockey as a RW, as the 3rd line LW?</strong> I think you are hurting the roster putting guys in lesser roles that fits them bc you just want Hall who is really a 1 dimensional player and doesnt do a lick of defensive work.

Why trade those assets for a guy you are just really using as depth scoring. Avs already have one of the top offense in the league (3rd highest scoring team) without Landy and Mack. So once they are healthy what much does Hall add? They already have a high potent offense</div></div>

So adding Hall would push other guys into lesser roles but adding Kreider wouldnt? That makes no sense. No matter who you add the rest of the team would be shifted down. If youre gonna add someone at least make it a big upgrade.

And if you want Burakovsky could play 2nd line then and Donskoi 3rd line if you would prefer.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 3:35
Thread: Hall and Sevo bye
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Bc you are paying top line prices to get him but move him down to the 2nd line and 2nd pp unit. I dont see how thats good asset management.</div></div>

who cares what number you assign to each line. Just because you call Landy-MacK-Rants the "1st line" doesnt mean that a potential "2nd line" of Hall-Kadri-Donskoi/Bura line wouldnt be getting good ice time. The Avs would have 2 lines capable of playing top line minutes, Bednar can adjust playing time according to how they are performing. Just take away a minute of ice time from the "3rd line" to play Hall and the "2nd line" more if you want him to get more usage. That would also give the Avs 2 deadly PP units, or you could use Hall on PP1 to stack it if needed. Also, in the event of an injury to one of the top forwards the Avs would have another elite F option to turn to on the PP instead of someone like Burakovsky or Donskoi (who are good, but nowhere near Hall's level). Hall is single-handedly carrying NJD's PP right now (has gotten points in 89% of the teams power play goals) and could do the same for COL's 2nd PP unit.

I think adding a few more assets in a trade is absolutely worth getting Hall instead of Kreider
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 18 at 3:10
Thread: Hall and Sevo bye
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>I wouldn’t bc I just don’t want hall. He doesn’t fill a need for the team

Kreider is more a fit and a piece the need more than hall. Hall is just over kill and spending more assets having player forced in a lesser role. Just not smart asset management imo</div></div>

I disagree. I think Hall would be a great fit. The Avs would have arguably the best offense in the league when healthy - theres just so many superstar forwards.

Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Hall-Kadri-Donskoi
Burakovsky-Jost-Compher
Nieto-Bellemare-Calvert

I dont get how Kreider would be a fit and Hall wouldnt. They both play on the PP, neither kills penalties, and one is a superstar and the other is an average 2nd line winger. Why would you take the latter? Sure Kreider is more physical but that doesnt make up for the difference in production. I would be happy with Kreider but if given a choice I would absolutely take Hall over him
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 17 at 2:22
Thread: Barrie Return
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div>What's your take on Barrie as a player, Moli92? Expectations seemed pretty high when the leafs landed him in that trade but it's hard not see that he's struggled with leafs. I don't know if thats because of how he's being used in his role, if it's just getting used to a new team/system or if that's what he is as a defenseman. I never really got a chance to see him play much til he landed in Toronto.</div></div>

hes very good offensively but hes bad defensively. The leafs arent using him properly right now. He should be on PP1 and should be getting 65+% of his shifts in the offensive zone - thats his role (he had about 72% offensive zone starts in all situations last season). Babcock only starts him in the offensive zone 57% of the time and also took away a lot of PP time from him. No wonder his shots and points are way down. He should take risks (pinch deep in the offensive zone, make stretch breakout passes, carry the puck out of the D zone and rush into the O zone, etc) to make offensive plays but it seems like he either lost confidence to do that or the coaches told him not to do that.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 14 at 12:03
Thread: Make an offer for Kreider Strome Hank and Fast
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>This is just my view but it seems to be typical over total NHL prospect rankings:

Rank 1-25 - A Prospects
Rank 26-50 - A- Prospects
Rank 51-75 - B+ prospects
Rank 76-100 - B prospects

This is just one example, but THW ranked the top 100 going into this season.. bowers didn't make it.
<a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/</a>

the LWH also did the top 100 (sorry you have to click next link 4 times to see all)
<a href="https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/09/22/2019-top-nhl-prospects-100-81/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/09/22/2019-top-nhl-prospects-100-81/</a>

bowers didn't make this list either.

I'm not saying he's a horrible NHL prospect, I'm just saying his NHL projection isn't that of a b+/a- player.. these are almost always top 6 players and bowers is projecting to be more of a 3rd line player (that isn't a bad thing, he's still an NHL player).

<a href="https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lundqhe01.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/l/lundqhe01.html</a>

look at the stats for Lundqvist in the playoffs, he always plays better in larger games. I know people have said he is declining, and they aren't wrong. But look at his goals saved above average, he is performing much better this year than last year. I think this number would be much better on colorado given the state of their team vs the rangers being the bottom feeders that they are.

IDK if colorado is the best buyer (since they have a goalie already), but I also know NYR and henrik want him to retire a ranger, IDK they would give him up for an offer that wasn't in their favor. Then again i'm not the GM, just giving my opinion on the trade posted.</div></div>

Fair enough. I like how much you looked into it but the classification of Bowers doesn't change that I just wouldn't give him and a 2nd for Lundqvist.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 13 at 5:25
Thread: Make an offer for Kreider Strome Hank and Fast
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spanky227</b></div><div>I'm just spitballing. bowers is a b prospect..



like i said above, doesn't matter what round he was picked in he's still a b prospect at best. and he was also 28th overall so he was one of the final 1st rounders that year.. he has 4 points in 21 AHL games (including playoffs) so it's not exactly like he's increased his value (and since the duchene trade it's gone down, at that point in time he was just drafted and he didn't perform amazingly in college or in the ahl so far)</div></div>

He was really good in preseason and almost made the team out of camp. I would consider him an A- or B+ prospect, either way I wouldn't give him and a 2nd for Lundqvist without retention