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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2018 at 9:21 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>icehawk2006</b></div><div>Josh Norris is not the Sharks best prospect. Merkley is the Sharks top prospect.</div></div>

Ryan Merkley doesn't have any value. He was basically only going to be drafted by San Jose or someone with too many picks...

I think you are on the right track, but I think you need to toss in some more. A second rounder or Balcers would probably even it out for me.

I think Panarin could resign with San Jose, but it won't get done before the trade. His gf wants to be close to a market where she can begin modeling. I have to imagine San Jose is close enough to LA to be in the conversation. Places that would be the front runners because of the modeling thing would be LA, ANA, NYR, NYI (jk), and NJD. I don't see him ending up in Anaheim or Jersey, so the likely thought is with the Kings (only if you move a good chunk of cap) or the Rangers (who aren't done with their "rebuild" yet).

Chicago might work, but money might be an issue.

Anyone who says he would fit in Toronto is a little nuts. You can't pay Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, AND Panarin. He would only fit for one year (this one), and they don't need offense. They need defense. I just don't see that happening.

Logically, there are only a few spots for Panarin. San Jose makes as much sense as anyone else, but you can't do the deal if you are afraid he would walk after one season. I doubt DW does the deal. He would much rather get a Jeff Skinner, who is a goo top 6 forward, but will actually sign an extension, and will be a little bit cheaper. Not as good as Panarin, but it would make more sense for the Sharks.

Ultimately, I see Panarin with the Rangers next year. The team with have a good amount of growth from the young kids, and they should be trending upwards.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2018 at 10:21 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>Awesome points and I agree with almost everything you said. The main reason for doing what I did is Wild owner Craig Leipold. He has stated vehemently that he will not allow a rebuild, but only a "tweak" or two. The other reason is Zach Parise and Ryan Suter...or their contracts to be more specific. It would be very difficult to do a true rebuild without trading both of them...but they have NMC/NTCs. Both chose to come to MN to be closer to home and family, so I don't see them allowing the Wild to move them. Besides, who is dumb enough to take on their contracts anyway?

I don't like the idea of trading either Coyle or Niederreiter, as you suggest. Both are coming off injury-plagued, down seasons and the Wild would be selling low. I'm not a fan of that. Zucker is the one to trade because he is going to get (IMO) more money and more term than he is worth coming off a career year. Zucker is a very good player and adds a lot...but, (again IMO) he is the type of piece a true contender adds, not a player to build around. This is why I think he would make a ton of sense in Tampa. They get a real player for Callahan's money and the Wild get 2 very nice prospects to build around for the future. It makes so much sense in my pea-sized brain that I can't believe it hasn't already happened...:D</div></div>

Agreed, but you can rebuild around those contracts. You can trade everyone else from the team. You have to hit the salary floor somehow, right?

I know the owner doesn't want a rebuild, but if you are in the middle of the pack, you options are to stay the course and continue to be mediocre, or tweak a lot more than one or two pieces and get significantly better.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2018 at 2:12 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>The Minnesota Wild have made the playoffs 6 years in a row...that's great...but, they have been mostly non-competitive in the post season those 6 years too. Basically, they are a franchise stuck in the mud because of loooong contracts to aging players. While taking on Callahan's contract is not ideal, if it ultimately gets two young, very good/great prospects for Zucker...I think it's worth it in the long haul. The Wild have enough forward depth to stay competitive without Zucker, so this is a trade designed for the long-term health of the Wild. The big picture here is the arrival of stud Wild prospect Kirill Kaprizov. By all accounts, he is going to be an absolute offensive juggernaut, but cannot cross the ocean for two more seasons because of his KHL contract. Both Callahan and Koivu will be off the books by then and the Wild will be a new look team because their other old players (Parise and Suter) will have smaller roles and the current 20-something players (Granlund, Dumba, Niederrieter, et al) will take over the roles they should already have. Also by then, Eriksson Ek, Greenway, Kunin, et al will be ready for larger roles and the prospects in this trade, along with others in the system will be NHL ready. They will then be a very talented, balanced team...ready to be legitimate Cup contenders.

That was a long-winded answer for: This is a step backwards for the Wild so they can ultimately take 2 steps forward in the near future.</div></div>

Okay, I agree with you, and I think that approach might happen soon for the Wild. And it would be better to begin that process sooner rather than later so they kids you talked about can be a part of the process. The Kunin's and the Eriksson Ek's.

But if you're going to go that route, why aren't you going to tear the whole thing down? Why hang on to Devan Dubnyk, who will probably not be an elite goaltender by that point? Why trade Zucker, who could be your veteran leader at that point, when you should really trade guys like Charlie Coyle, Nino Niederreiter, etc. who are they players who can't get the Wild over the hump in the playoffs?

I get that Zucker would get you a big return, but it's not like you couldn't trade Coyle for a decent return. Same with some other players.

You're 100% right they are caught in limbo, but you can't do what the Canadiens did and think you can just make one large move to fix the problem. Trading P.K. Subban didn't solve the problem. And it's gone downhill from there.

If you want to rebuild for the future, you need to do what the Sharks did. Or what the Blackhawks are trying to do. Shed off a lot of dead weight, and bring in younger players who fit the modern game, or bring in some veterans on modest deals.

The point is, trading Zucker isn't going to fix anything today, and the return you get for Zucker probably won't fix anything tomorrow either. If you're going to go down that route, it's time to trade away more than just Zucker.
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 18, 2018 at 10:34 a.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2018 at 4:14 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slepler</b></div><div>I goofed! I meant to put williams on the wing with the Joes. Just forgot to move him. As for the reasoning there, Williams is "Mr. Game 7." Proven cup winner on a roster with ZERO cup winners (jones, but he didnt play). They also lose depth at forward without labanc and Tierney. Williams is still a very good player, but for me its about veteran leadership, who steps up in key moments, and brings a cup winning knowledge. Think of it a little like Orpik on Washington. Hes not gunna play the lead role, but his experience and leadership are invaluable. Orpik, like williams is one of just a handful of players to win cups with multiple teams. That's what I want...

And as I mentioned elsewhere, Dallas absolutely does not intend to deal seguin. BUT, if they suck this year: If their division sees the preds and jets dominate and STL much improved and colorado continue their youth run, and chicago still has kane-toews-keith-seabrook etc and are likely to have a better showing, then dallas becomes the odd man out. I would not be surprised, at all, to see dallas dead last in the division. They have only 3 top scorers and that includes radulov who had the best year of his career, which is unlikely to happen again at 32 years old. Their top second liner (4th highest forward) had just 34 pts. Their D is quite mediocre after klingberg and maybe lindell.

Simply put, While seguin loves dallas and is not like tavares, he also did not sign his extension yet and playing for a bad team is not fun, and Dallas has a very real chance of being a bad team at this moment .

(of course a karlsson trade could be interesting there. but then again that would require dallas to pay well over 30M to just three players in Benn, Seguin, and karlsson.)</div></div>

The Stars have also signed 15 players since June 22nd. They have been busy. While you want your elite center under contract for next season, there is time for that to wait a little bit while the Shore (see what I did there?! haha) up the team for this year. They have three RFAs to go, and then they're done for 2018-19. I imagine we are going to hear a lot about a Seguin contract in August.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slepler</b></div><div>I goofed! I meant to put williams on the wing with the Joes. Just forgot to move him. As for the reasoning there, Williams is "Mr. Game 7." Proven cup winner on a roster with ZERO cup winners (jones, but he didnt play). They also lose depth at forward without labanc and Tierney. Williams is still a very good player, but for me its about veteran leadership, who steps up in key moments, and brings a cup winning knowledge. Think of it a little like Orpik on Washington. Hes not gunna play the lead role, but his experience and leadership are invaluable. Orpik, like williams is one of just a handful of players to win cups with multiple teams. That's what I want...

And as I mentioned elsewhere, Dallas absolutely does not intend to deal seguin. BUT, if they suck this year: If their division sees the preds and jets dominate and STL much improved and colorado continue their youth run, and chicago still has kane-toews-keith-seabrook etc and are likely to have a better showing, then dallas becomes the odd man out. I would not be surprised, at all, to see dallas dead last in the division. They have only 3 top scorers and that includes radulov who had the best year of his career, which is unlikely to happen again at 32 years old. Their top second liner (4th highest forward) had just 34 pts. Their D is quite mediocre after klingberg and maybe lindell.

Simply put, While seguin loves dallas and is not like tavares, he also did not sign his extension yet and playing for a bad team is not fun, and Dallas has a very real chance of being a bad team at this moment .

(of course a karlsson trade could be interesting there. but then again that would require dallas to pay well over 30M to just three players in Benn, Seguin, and karlsson.)</div></div>

I just think you can get his production on the market for cheaper. I just don't see that trade being a good fit with the Sharks. Williams is slow, and he is getting older. They need youth and speed.

Key word there is yet. He has a full year to sign a deal before he would hit the open market. If there isn't something done by October, we can talk. If there isn't something done by Christmas, we can speculate where he could be traded to. If there isn't something done by the draft, we can predict where he might sign next year. That's my only point.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2018 at 4:05 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2018 at 1:58 p.m.