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Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Thread: Too Slow on the Back End and Small up Front
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Imagine thinking the Canucks are better managed than the the Canadiens at this point. The Canucks have made the playoffs exactly once in the last 8 years and have routinely traded away draft picks to correct bad signings and trades. The 3rd to give away Pearson for one. Lets just look at that one. Pearson cost them Gudbranson. Gudbranson cost us a 2nd, 4th and McCann. This trade was 3rd and Pearson. So for a back up Goalie it cost the Nucks a 1st (Mccann) a 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th. I wonder why they've made the playoffs once in the past decade.</div></div>

If you wanna talk about bad management, let’s talk about the team that traded a 1st + 2nd for a mediocre 3C in Dvorak

The team that traded Max Domi PLUS a pick for Josh Anderson, then signed him to a god awful contract, then reportedly turned down a 1st round pick to get out of that contract

The team that traded a 1st + early 2nd for a player that couldn’t even produce in Colorado’s top 6

The team that has the awful contracts of Anderson, Gallagher, Armia, Savard, Dvorak, and Allen

The team that gave a past his prime Carey Price 8x10.5 when he was a league average goalie at best and got bailed out by him having to LTIRetire

The team that took Slafkovsky 1OA

The team that took Kotkaniemi 3OA just to let him walk after his ELC

The team that took Logan Mailloux 1st round

Now that’s a poorly managed team
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals23 hours ago
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>Tuch was not at all comparable to Dach. Everyone including Buffalo was surprised at what he did after the trade. Krebs and Reinbacher are not comparable. The narrative around Reinbacher is just false. He was a top defender in the NL (4th best league in the world) at 17/18 years old, even led his team in ice time. Was in line with Nemec, Jiricek. And if you saw him last night you would change your tune real quick.</div></div>

Tuch at 22 had a 54 point season. Dach at 22 had a 38 point season. They were both strong defensive players. They are absolutely comparable, and Tuch at the time of the trade had been a better player than Dach has been up to this point. So yes, they are comparable

Krebs at the time was a very highly ranked prospect, the same as Reinbacher is right now. Reinbacher is a bit better of a prospect sure, but Pettersson is also better than Eichel and didn’t need career threatening neck surgery, so he gets a better prospect than Eichel did
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 5:17 a.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>Every trade you just quotes proves me right and proves you wrong. They were all traded for one big prospect and then picks. Krebs was a 17th overall pick - not at the level of the players you’ve suggested Habs give up. Tuch was a middle 6 winger already in his prime. Sabres fans and fans across the league hated that trade for Buffalo.

Callahan was a 26 year old 2nd liner not a high end piece and then picks.

Jones was traded for one big prospect in Boqvist and then picks.</div></div>

At the time of the Eichel trade Krebs was ranked as the 26th best prospect in the league by the Athletic. Reinbacher this year was ranked 20th. They are comparable

Tuch and Dach are comparable. Tuch was better than Dach was, but Dach is younger than Tuch was

1st round pick = 1st round pick

Vegas added a 2nd, and Pettersson is also better than Eichel so he should get a better return than Eichel
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 5:10 a.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 4:39 a.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>It’s never going to be considered fair by a Canucks fan. No fan is ever happy with the return when they trade a star player because those returns are never as good as the one you’re suggesting. You’re not getting two recent top 5 picks along with another two picks that are likely top 5-10… Are you out of your mind?</div></div>

Seth Jones returned a recent 8th overall pick, the 12th overall pick, and a pick that ended up being 6th overall

Dach is a solid piece for a Pettersson trade, but isn’t good enough to be the headlining piece. He could be the 2nd/3rd best asset in the trade, but not the best. He also hasn’t lived up to his top 5 pick status, seeing as he literally got traded for a mid 1st in a weak draft
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 4:34 a.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dom1422</b></div><div>It is an unrealistic ask. You don’t get two of those pieces and what is very likely a top 10 pick on top of it. You get one of those pieces (like every other high profile trade) and then a lesser piece and some high picks. Look at past trades for stars and use that as a guide</div></div>

Tkachuk trade:
Huberdeau was an extremely high end piece
Weegar was a high end piece
1st round pick

Eichel trade:
Krebs was a high end prospect piece
Tuch was a fairly high end piece (similar to what Dach is now, if not better)
1st round pick
2nd rounder added as well

St. Louis trade:
Callahan was a high end piece
2x 1st round picks

Seth Jones trade:
#12 pick was a high end piece
Boqvist was a high end piece
The 2022 1st was 6th overall
(Chicago did also get to move up 10 spots from 42 to 32)

You’re trying to get Pettersson for less than a 38 year old Martin St. Louis returned. Look at past trades for stars and go off of that. Not to mention Pettersson likely gets the best return out of them, seeing as he’s better than all of them apart from Tkachuk (who he’s not too far behind), but the fact he plays C would make him more valuable than Tkachuk was imo. At worst he gets a similar value return to Tkachuk, who returned 2 very high end players and a 1st
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:02 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:46 p.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>So is Kerfoot... Doesn't make him a 5 mill player and Lilly is a young, mobile and cheap RHD...

GMs would also love to have a 6'8 guy who hits too...

Since when? The best trade comp I cam do is Timmins or Robertson... Neither are 2nd round pick materiel...

What part of this: <img class="for_img" src="https://preview.redd.it/jfresh-timothy-liljegren-player-card-2022-23-v0-z0w2ehk2dkla1.jpg?auto=webp&amp;s=fbf7c8ea974792b8e9135d68b97d4b265a5821a2" alt="jfresh-timothy-liljegren-player-card-2022-23-v0-z0w2ehk2dkla1.jpg?auto=webp&amp;s=fbf7c8ea974792b8e9135d68b97d4b265a5821a2"> isn't going to fit with Hughes? The 87th percentile defensively? Lilly is worth a 1st

Brodie is worth more than that... His 100th percentile EV defence speaks for itself but al his puck recoveries do too

So no, Toronto gives up the most valuable asset and the best player so Toronto declines</div></div>

Myers has a reputation for being physical, even though he isn’t really. There’s a GM out there who would take him (probably Ken Holland)

Hoglander is 12th in his draft class in points. He’s outperformed his draft spot. If a guy like Lundkvist can still return a 1st after only playing 25 games 4 years after being drafted, Hoglander can return a 2nd

<img class="for_img" src="https://ibb.co/r3zK43c" alt="r3zK43c">

<img class="for_img" src="https://ibb.co/MM924vz" alt="MM924vz">

This is a 2M player? Garland is a 5M player making 5M. He’s the best player in the trade. Evolving Hockey also had his value at 6.6M last season in a down year (not sure if the images loaded so here’s the links if they didn’t) https://ibb.co/MM924vz https://ibb.co/r3zK43c

If Liljegren was the best player/asset in the trade, why has he constantly been healthy scratched in the playoffs? I like him, but he’s not worth the Canucks 1st round pick. If it was a bonafide contenders 1st round pick that would be fair value for him
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:13 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 8:34 p.m.