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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 16 at 10:45
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 10 at 6:54
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>uphere</b></div><div>I suggest you take Samorukov out of that offer and replace him with Lagesson; here's why:

From Edmonton's perspective, (1) Puljujarvi has made it clear that he will not play for them again, (2) unless Holland can move Kris Russell this summer Lagesson seems to be the odd man out, and he has to clear waivers in order to play in Bakersfield... moving him makes sense if doing so help improve the roster, (3) Khaira seems to have lost his moxie this season, and the addition of Archibald, Nygaard, and even Haas has diminished JJ's role. (4) Athanasiou has top-six written all over him, and he can flat-out fly. He's had a poor year and might be available at a cost the team can manage.

From Detroit's perspective, (1) Puljujarvi is dominating a near AHL-calibre league that's loaded with veteran pro hockey players, (2) He will be anxious to get back to the NHL and prove his doubters wrong. He may do just that, but odds are that next season he is going to be a solid third-line wing who may (emphasis on the word "may") work his way up to second line duties by the end of the season. (3) Khaira is already an established, albeit inconsistent bottom six left wing, a decent penalty killer, and a guy who can step up once in a while, so that Mantha doesn't feel he has to. When he's on top of his game, Kharia is also a pretty solid puck possession player... its just that he hasn't been at the top of his game this season. (3) Lagesson is NHL ready, he'll make rookie mistakes, but he's ready for a regular role if he can be sheltered a bit. Detroit gets three inexpensive, young-ish, NHL (or NHL-ready) players who can each fill a role in the current line-up, therefore strengthening team depth.

Samorukov is a season or two away from real NHL action, and that time frame works well for Edmonton, not so well for Detroit. In two years Nurse will either be extended at great expense, traded away, or set to become an unrestricted free agent. By then, maybe sooner, Broberg and Samorukov will likely be pushing hard for regular NHL shifts. That may make one, or both, of Klefbom and Nurse a very valuable trade chip.</div></div>
Fair points! I just figured Detroit also feels 2-3 years away from being competitive, and at that point Samorukov may be a bigger piece for them than Lagesson. But Lagesson could help now to keep their D half respectable...which also matters!
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 10 at 2:18
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 5 at 8:30
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>He played five years in vancouver, albeit one didn't really count. He was made captain quite quickly and was a likable guy by the hometown fans here.

However he was never the star player here. He plays a horvat-type game in terms of work ethic and defensive mindedness, but he can't carry plays the same way true top 6ers do. Ronning was always the star guy on the giants, and I doubt Benson would have gone as high as he did if not for Ty.

I remain to say that he is someone like Kunitz - capable of getting good production, but only if he is with the right guys. You also just admitted in saying the scouts say he is a "potential top 6 winger". Doesn't mean he will be one. Also all guys have the ability to become something unexpected.

My whole point here is I see fans talking about this guy as if he is the next big thing for the oilers when he isn't.

Don't gotta take my word for it, but I thought i'd throw down my 10 cents since I've seen the guy play live more than most/all others on here.</div></div>

I completely agree he’s not a “next big thing” at all! In this proposal I mean to say if he works out as a nice complementary winger in his time up before the deadline, that would be excellent for the oilers. We have the best two centremen in the league right now so...all he needs to ever be is complementary (and hopefully cost-effective). Being able to use the limited cap space we have on bringing in a great 3C like Tierney to bolster our lines away from McD and Drai for the playoffs will be more helpful in my opinion than bringing in a top line winger who will cost more in assets and cap space if we want to keep them longterm.