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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread: This is what Avs fans see with all these Monahan nonsense trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Why do people act like rentals don't get 1st round picks? And why do fans of contenders seem to think their 1st round picks have high value?

Any player picked after #20 has like a 50% shot at being an NHL player, it's why teams give those picks up to make a run. The math is that the current player your getting is worth more than the player that may never make it</div></div>

Monahan isn’t very good anymore though. Hes playing 18 min a night has 16 even strength points and would not sniff pp1 on our team. RyJo has played 13:50 a night not much pp time at all and has produced 11 even strength points. Ryjo to monahan is as lateral a move that we can get
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 6:59 p.m.
Thread: Byram
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>I agree. But this “cutter gauthier” thing I’ve seen multiple times no has no bearing as a comp.

Toffoli is an NHL ready quality top 6 winger who can help a team win a Stanley cup now.

Cutter gauthier is a college player.

If it was “they turned down guentzel for byram” that would make sense as a comp to indicate Byram is not available for a rental winger. But cutter just isn’t the same type of asset

Just like how Chicago wouldn’t buy a rental for one of their guy, but they would take a pick or prospext</div></div>

well i get what you are saying. but it illustrate that they turned down much better offer value wise. if thry wanted they could have flipped gauthier to get much vetter rental players too.

you just dont trade some of your most valuable asset for rentals, GM dont event have to turn down those offers. i havent read that the devils turned down a trade nemec for tarasenko to know its not the right value or that it doesnt make sense to begin with.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 8:57 a.m.
Thread: An argument supporting Monahans value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>I have watched the last few Avs games notably in Bsoton where Colorado couldnt even enter the offensive zone in the 3rd without Mackinnon or Makar bulldozing in. Ryjo is cooked! He had top PP opportunities early in the year and was taken off despite the injuries to Lehks and Nuke while Ryjo is exclusively used as a faceoff man which is just one of Monahan's attributes. And, Monahan fixture on the PP isnt a downside, he's been able to keep his spot unlike Ryjo. Colorado is playing their top guys 25-28 mins a night. Drouin ice time has been unreal. Another guy Avs fans said they didnt need last year yet hes given all the ice time.

Monahan's down low game, headiness and quick hands are simply not just better than Ryjo but a different league and the stats bear it out. But again, if you dont want him another contender will which will up the price and add to the return package. I dont even believe a 1st rounder is enough when those late picks have a less than 30% chance of even being an NHL regular. I much rather they extend Monahan to a 3-4 year contract when hes only 29 and still very productive unlike Ryjo.</div></div>

If Colorado ends up paying a first for Monahan, which I absolutely do not think they will, then come find me and give me the old "I told you so." I can take it. But I truly don't think it will happen. 2nd and Olausson, with Montreal also taking RyJo, maybe. But not a first. I think they'll quickly look elsewhere if that's the ask.

RyJo losing PP1 time actually makes the point that the Avs don't need another option for that role. They have plenty.

With respect to Drouin, lots of Avs fans have wanted him for quite some time. Giving up assets for the guy last season (and being on the hook for over 2M AAV) is very different than tossing him 800k as a UFA. I don't think Habs fans are incorporating that differentiating factor in when presenting their argument.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 8 at 8:11 p.m.
Thread: Ducks trade for Gauthier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>He declined to attend development camp which probably rubbed the Flyers the wrong way. Apparently didn't talk to them during WJC was the nail in the coffin.</div></div>

Ahh okay yeah this sounds vaguely familiar. Ultimately I think the Flyers did the best they could. Once the guy declines even the idea of meeting and talking with no strings attached, the ship has sailed. And if you dont deal him quickly, eventually someone asks him the question about his future with the org, and hes got no incentive to stay quiet. Then you lose your leverage.

Credit to Briere making the best of it, although Drysdale is a huge gamble. Just doesn't seem like a torts guy either but maybe he's exactly what JD needs right now.