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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
getting too aggressive
That Ottawa trade is one of those trades were five years later the GMs involved are either going to look brilliant or stupid. For Columbus, it smells dangerously much like selling low.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 15 at 6:52 p.m.
Thread:
Lottery Up To 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Idk what POINT you’re actually trying to make?
We aren’t trading Power
And if your point is that Jiricek = Power, that just isn’t true:
1- Power isn’t unhappy, Jiricek is & that diminishes his value
2- Power is MUCH more established in the NHL
There’s just ZERO CHANCE of a swap happening,
no matter what your charts say 🤣🤣🤣</div></div>
You cannot possibly be this dumb, but I guess your username does imply that numbers and charts scare you. SkyRaider claimed that Jiricek wasn’t worth anything and pocke very clearly demonstrated that that was incorrect because the numbers show he is comparable to Power despite Power being a lofty first overall and Jiricek being clearly much less than that (even though weirdly your whole fanbase on this website is desperate to acquire him). Power is just older and came into a team with no one ahead of him at his position since he and Dahlin can both play both sides.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread:
cbj simple summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pocke</b></div><div>I like Provorov to the Leafs. That's definitely one of the teams I have circled for his destination. Tampa, potentially, after the injury. I could also see Boston or Vegas if he was fully retainted. It's hard to say which teams may not want his negative PR, though, which makes it hard to feel confident.
I get the long term projection for Marchenko, but I'm not sure I'd sign him to it. Love the player, definitely willing to go long term, but above 6 million seems steep and I wonder if that's his salary ceiling (kind of like Buchnevich). He doesn't have play driving ability in transition, though he's good at recovering pucks and extending possession. He is obviously a talented finisher. In which case, going shorter might be better and then giving him this contract in a couple of years.
The KJ contract seems like a no-brainer 10.2c 2 year deal. Following Sam Reinhart.
I'd be more nervous about Chinakhov. He really has the capacity to pop-off in the next two years. It feels risky either way.
I don't mind keeping Bean but I don't mind moving on either. It would really be nice to get someone who could help insulate and guide Jiricek but the team tried that and failed with their poor Provorov decision. I think Bean-Jiricek can be a really dynamic and good pair but we'll need a better D coach and perhaps system (and perhaps Centers) before it can really click.
Really, I'd just like a center that KJ can play with if it's not Fantilli (or wingers that let him play C).</div></div>
i will fully admit that the chinakhov, johnson, bean, and marchenko deals are heavily informed by the AFP analytics projections - i've looked at some comps myself but im not great at contract prediction so i was deferring a good bit. i think marchenko 5 years $5 mil AAV <em>feels</em> better to me and then you find out if he's a true #1 RW and pay up at the end of the deal or you move on at the deadline. conveniently, 5 years would mean johnny off the books when it's time to theoretically pay up.
i agree with you on chinakhov. personally, i'd love to get all of chinakhov, sillinger, and marchenko deals with 4+ term this summer but i don't feel like that matches the precedent we've seen around the league. it'd be a lot of money to give out in one summer with just a slight cap bump. chinakhov's posturing earlier this season makes me feel like he's the most likely in that bunch to only sign short term in a "bet on myself" kind of way.
yea KJ is interesting because im personally not convinced he's an NHL center but it does feel like he needs a center we don't have, although i think he and voronkov have shown some things that might work out long term.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
cbj simple summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Bringing back Bean seems like a terrible idea especially at that amount, I don't see a ton of Jackets games but when I've seen him play he's looked awful, a terrible skater.
I don't think the Leafs would do that, the media backlash just wouldn't be worth it.</div></div>
bean hasn't been a huge negative honestly. totally team-average 5v5 numbers this season and is competent at jumping into the play which has helped the team keep the puck moving up ice.
it's a pretty cheap number for a LHD with NHL experience that isn't a huge negative. put a reasonable buyout number into the contract and absolutely no movement restrictions and it'll be a find stopgap until svozil is ready or another better LHD is acquired. if you have to move him, there is for sure a team that would take him 50% retained and that dead cap is forgettable.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 4 at 1:53 p.m.
Thread:
Campbell Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Capfriendly is a beautifull place where you can be told the same day that Monahan (18:30 TOI, 22pts) is a 3C worth a 3rd round draft pick and Jenner (19:15 TOI, 19 pts) is a 1C worth 3x1st.
I was wrong calling him a 4C, but it doesn't make this evaluation less ridiculous.</div></div>
I guess it depends who actually said what, as none of us speak for the site, but IMO:
-Monahan is definitely worth more 3rd round pick (and wasn't mentioned in this thread)
-Jenner is likely not worth 3 1sts in a vacuum
-Broberg and Holloway may not be worth the same as a late 1st to Columbus or other teams
-Monahan and Jenner don't compare as one is a rental and the other has term, and play different games
-Both of them shouldn't be playing center on the top 2 lines of contenders (which is why this thread has Jenner as 3C in Edmonton)
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 30, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
Thread:
Farewell Petey and welcome home Macklin Celebrini
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Canucks have no reason to move Pettersson for any less. A 24 year old top 5C and borderline top 10 player in the league gets a huge return like that</div></div>
This is exactly why a Pettersson to CBJ trade won't happen. Vancouver doesn't have any reason to move Petey, and CBJ have no reason to move 2 of their top 3 prospects, which happen to fill major holes in the lineup (theoretically), have more years of team control, and fit the future window.
However, remove DPetey, Gudbranson, and the first from the original trade, and the ask is still 3 recent top-12 1st-round picks. Swap Mateychuk and Sillinger for Johnson or Fantilli and it becomes 2 recent top-6 picks, all from strong draft years. Petey was a 5th-OA, and Jiricek and Fantilli both have Petey-level ceilings (or better). It may seem fair, but it's also an insane move, with no recent comparable history and no chance at actually happening.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the price of Boqvist
To answer your title ?, I think the value here is more or less on point for Boqvist.
Also: Zero percent chance Minnesota eats that much cap for you. They still have RFAs to sign and the Parise/Suter buyouts killing $14M+ worth of cap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Low Risk High Reward team
That CBJ trade is a joke right?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
Thread:
It Starts With Jiricek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I think he meant if it was just him if it was like a 1 for 1
All negotiations go like that u start with the big fish then move down
I could see a deal around Sillinger + Peeke and picks</div></div>
I'd tend to think the wording woulda been different based on how people usually talk, but definitely not impossible he meant it like that. Regardless, it's still super ignorant of CBJ's needs to suggest that in any capacity. I'm not reading into it too deep though, just wanted to make a joke post about it haha.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 6, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.
Thread:
bj s
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>Canucks pass imo</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Konkarsson</b></div><div>cbj pass</div></div>
CapFriendly in a nutshell
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2023 at 7:02 a.m.
Thread:
Is Columbus Nasty
They are about to be especially nasty, but I think adding Lindholm will hurt the team's cap structure and prevent them from being able to lock up young talent.
No way does CBJ take that MIN trade. Boq has more value than that, and what Foligno brings isn't needed right now. Also, that move forcing them to put Gud on the 2nd pair would hurt the defense. If Boq <em>IS</em> moved out, I think it'll be because Jiricek has taken his job.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
Thread:
Adding a 2C
Nelson's a good target for the length of his contract, which would end right when the most important kids' ELCs are ending, too. Doubt the Isles would be remotely interested in giving him up, though. He's their most important skater. Yes, I include Barzal in that assessment.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 30, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.
Thread:
Thoughts
I wouldn’t move out 2 young potentially key players (boqvist and chin) for a stop gap center. Worst case run out roslovic next year and keep our young guys.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
Thread:
Fantilliplan - Roslovic Kept
These lines shows that the clock has struck midnight for Roslovic. He’s legit a 3rd line winger now for this team but really I don’t think he makes it past the next two weeks for this team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
Thread:
Hanifin Backlund Tofolli and Markstrom Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zachary17</b></div><div>There is absolutely no way that Columbus accepts that</div></div>
I was really hoping that after the draft the crappy Columbus Calgary trades would end. Apparently I was too optimistic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 29, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
Thread:
Fantilliplan - Roslovic Kept
I think the logic is sound but I don't think they're going to give a guy (Compher) that kind of contract unless he's an absolute lock in the top 6. Just can't be paying a 3rd line guy 5.7 mil when you already have Gudbrandson getting 4 mil. I have a feeling they could get a "free center" similar to the Johansen deal or maybe they bring in a guy like Josh Bailey at a lower cap hit. With Marchenko and Johnson getting likely top 6 money in the not-so-distant future that extra cap cushion is really important
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 27, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread:
Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pocke</b></div><div>Kevin Hayes 50% retained for a 2024 6th round pick</div></div>
<a href="/users/The_Cannon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@The_Cannon</a>
Haha, yeah I just found this thread to say guess I was wrong. Although, perhaps Krug nixed a better deal but I'm guessing he was just being dumped for Krug/Scandella or whoever.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 26, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
Thread:
Trade
You're not getting 34OA for a right defenseman and a small, often injured wing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread:
Hayes deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mmccRed198913</b></div><div>Pretty easy decline for Philly. Trying to shed a bad contract not take another one on for a longer period of time :tearsofjoy</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldSchool</b></div><div>The Flyers aren't taking back Krug.</div></div>
Flyers are going full rebuild, bad contracts are what they are looking for. In a couple years they can most likely flip Krug for assets
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
Thread:
Stanley Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlueJacketsandBuckeyes</b></div><div>I’m not sold on the idea of us trading for Lindholm, especially with the reported price. I’d rather give Sillinger a chance to bounce back.</div></div>
Oh I completely agree. I think if they ask for sillinger we walk. I’m fine with 3-4 assts like boqvist pick 34, next years first (protected) and a b range prospect. Sillinger was 19 for the entirety of last season and it would be stupid to give up on him this quick.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
Thread:
Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pocke</b></div><div>That's too much. Roslovic + Peeke + extras is a wild return for a middle six C.
Ryan Johansen at $4 million per year for 2 years was just traded for free. He was injured at the end of the season, but he was also better defensively and great at faceoffs. He scored fewer points but created more offense.</div></div>
I just saw the RyJo trade after I posted this. That’s crazy.
So by that value Hayes is probably going to be 50% retained and might return a 4th.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 8:13 a.m.
Thread:
rebuild
Columbus, the team with Patrik Laine, it not trading valuable assets for any of the guys who were the problem when he was there. Hard pass.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 23, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread:
right D remake and a willy trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>This is one of those classic "the grass is greener" posts. Peeke isn't good enough to move Gudbranson from the lineup, that is pretty awful.</div></div>
Peeke is better than Gudbranson, but Gudbranson is the lockerroom, vet, physical presence that Jarmo wants to keep on the team to protect the young guys. Also given the contracts for each, Peeke has more value to be moved. A first is an overpay in my opinion, but given the fact that Peeke is locked in at an affordable contract for the next couple years, he probably returns a little more than he is worth. I'd think a second would get it done or CBJ has to send a third or so to get a first rounder.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
Thread:
Dach
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pocke</b></div><div>I do think people generally underestimate Boqvist's value. They forget how young he is because he's been in the NHL for 5 years. He took strides last year, especially as an athlete, and is primed to keep moving up.
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.imgur.com/vCdg6cz.jpg" alt="vCdg6cz.jpg">
It is worth noting that Dach's value did indeed go up. He remains an excellent target for CBJ. Honestly, I hope CBJ can do some work to scoop up some players in the remnants of wherever PLD goes. If that's MTL, Dach. If it's LAK, Vilardi. If it's FLA, Reinhart. Something to that effect would go a long way.</div></div>
Would be poetic if PLD joining a new team lets us obtain a new 1/2 C
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 21, 2023 at 8:21 a.m.
Thread:
Less is more
Lmao, CBJ gets way better offers than that. Rather just keep Peeke as depth at that price. CBJ are not strapped for cap space, we have leverage and this won't be like another Bjorkstrand trade
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