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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread: Fantilliplan - Roslovic Kept
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Indy</b></div><div>These lines shows that the clock has struck midnight for Roslovic. He’s legit a 3rd line winger now for this team but really I don’t think he makes it past the next two weeks for this team.</div></div>

I don't think so either but if we can concoct a scheme to boost his value by the TDL, where his half-retained $2 million contract would look attractive to a capped team, that might be the value play. HIs value as an asset is much higher as a rental. The team trading for him will want to see if he isn't the defensive black-hole that he was here and he might want to hit free agency.

I'll probably do another where we move him soon but I imagine Jarmo has a trade for a center before free agency anyway.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 29, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
Thread: Fantilliplan - Roslovic Kept
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodjobbjs</b></div><div>I think the logic is sound but I don't think they're going to give a guy (Compher) that kind of contract unless he's an absolute lock in the top 6. Just can't be paying a 3rd line guy 5.7 mil when you already have Gudbrandson getting 4 mil. I have a feeling they could get a "free center" similar to the Johansen deal or maybe they bring in a guy like Josh Bailey at a lower cap hit. With Marchenko and Johnson getting likely top 6 money in the not-so-distant future that extra cap cushion is really important</div></div>

I agree, this is just the Evolving Hockey projection. Compher is right handed, and Roslovic is our only other righty center, and plays defense. This makes him a good insulator. I would defintiely prefer to not pay that much for a 30-40 point center, but the market is what it is.

KJ is probably going to get bridged to the other side of Laine/Jenner contracts, so I don't know when he's actually going to get Top 6 money. Marchenko certainly could be sooner rather than later.<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rougelegionnaire</b></div><div>I would keep Peeke and trade Bean and Boqvist away, I do think that Compher would be a great veteran addition but i dont think Jack should be #2 center put Johnson there.</div></div>

Jack is just at 2C so that we can pump up his value before a trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.
Thread: Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prison_Goalie_Rick</b></div><div>I do think that Hayes and RyJo are in different situations because of the outlook each of their teams have. PHI is clearly rebuilding, so looking to take on bad contracts and get assets for anything they can. They shouldn’t be giving anything away. I do think it is going to force them to retain more than they wanted on Hayes though.

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Andrew Peeke is absolutely spare parts. Love the guy, but you can pick someone up for under a mil to do what he does. He’s Gabon Bayreuther or Ben Harpur.

I’m still hoping Sillinger turns it around, and I think eventually he will because of his work ethic. However, there’s still a plenty hefty chance that he is nothing more than spare parts in 2-3 years also.</div></div>

I am not really a fan of Peeke, but I don't think he's spare parts. He has demonstrated that he has the ability to play a role that is common on good teams. He's a low event defenseman who can eat big minutes and tread water defensively. He gives it all back offensively, but there's a time and place for that type of defenseman. See: Zach Bogosian, Erik Johnson, Jack Johnson on recent cup winners. He's not great and he'll need more experience but he's got plenty of time and his cap hit isn't unagreeable. He isn't a Jake Bean who, though talented, lacks the pure offense to be a PP1, lacks the puck moving to play higher in the lineup and lacks the physicality to play without those skills on a top team.

Cole Sillinger was rushed to the NHL but he's going to be fine. His skating will get better and then he'll be able to engage more in the physical game. Right now he's just way behind the play both mentally and physically. He's an off-puck shooter and that's all he'll ever be since he didn't get much development time. As soon as he plays with wings that can reliably get the puck into the o zone and into the middle of the ice for him( like Voracek, Bjorkstrand or Nyquist in his first year), he'll be respectable. I would expect him to follow the Lindholm trajectory. He'll probably be middling unless CBJ development staff is just really terrible.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
Thread: Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>The market is set for cap dumps, not for players who you are trying to get assets for. Teams looking to dump big contracts, especially multi-year deals just got screwed probably.

I don't think PHI is trying to cap dump anyone, they are doing a to the studs rebuild. Maybe, now they might get less of a return for Hayes than they maybe could have (for example two 2nds+a 4th instead of a 1st+), but he's definitely going for a lot more than Johansen did. At the end of the day though, need to reach the cap floor and they have other assets they are trying to offload. If they get a 1st+ for Laughton, I doubt they settle for less on Hayes especially with retention.

NSH is in a retool, I think, so perhaps they plan to weaponize that 4M freed up (I wonder how much they would ask to take on Josh Bailey) or they already have a move lined up (maybe DeBrincat trade or taking Yamamoto as a cap dump, or Garland or Granlund or Boeser).

Imo Hayes would be a mistake for CBJ, they already have 2 guys on the team and might get a 3rd that could be the future 1C, so I think getting a proper 1C rental is the move (if it works out they can try extending him, if not they part ways) or getting a middle 6 center like Compher and playing him higher than he should, maybe he becomes the new Hayes.

I think if they wait they could get a good deal on a proper 1C, that mainly costs them spare parts more or less, like Sillinger+Peeke+a mid pick.</div></div>

All rumors that we have seen suggests Hayes is exactly a player that Philly wants to move on from. Rumors, with the previous GM, was that he was being acquired for "nothing major". 1st+ or 2 2nds definitely qualify as major. Hayes is a toxic asset because he's a W/C who is paid $7 million, is 31 and who Torts has been vocal about moving. Philly is not going to get paid to retain Kevin Hayes, they are retaining to open the marketplace.

https://twitter.com/FlyersNation/status/1669770203691974669

The fact that being bought out is mentioned suggests there's a significantly depreciated market for Kevin Hayes. Colorado has proven that they'd rather have Johansen for free than give up whatever Philly is asking for Hayes.

CBJ isn't a bad destination for Hayes, he can play in the middle six as an offensive pivot for young wingers, but not at asset cost and he shouldn't be considered a 1C. Not for a single second round pick.

I am definitely not sure what you're on about when you're calling Cole Sillinger and Andrew Peeke spare parts.