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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs20 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Yeah, I wouldn't mind players like Tanev, DeMelo, Walker, Roy, Pesce. on short term contracts, but so many fans think they are worth of six years? C'mon their effectiveness to their contract is probably three years max. Unfortunately, Dubas thought it was such a good idea to trade so many futures for one playoff round win. Then it same routine every year, the Leafs just gotta scramble to find aging UFAs during the summer. By his record in Calgary, I never understood why MLSE thought he was a good hire. But it seems to be a Leaf trend this century, look at the list of GMs, medicore at best.</div></div>

I think any GM needs to send out futures to improve the immediate when you are a contender. Unfortunately it didn't work out. Had he not made any moves the mob would have went nuts.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 9:20 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I liked keeping Sammy in as it seems that after what ever that first period was he and the team for the final 39 mins had it together

The 6 Dman is gonna be interesting but rn I would say

Rielly-Boosh
Edmundson-Liligren
Benoit/Gio-McCabe

Cause man idk if u want Brodie going against FLA as their forcheck to me is gonna **** em over</div></div>

This is what you are going to get with Sammy, inconsistent play. How well will it go for us if Sammy struggles in a period vs Florida and we are down 4-1? Battling back against Detroit is not the same thing as Florida. You can't afford these loss of focus moments you get with Sammy. That 4th goal is why I favor Woll so much. I get the allure of his acrobatic saves Sammy makes, it's exciting but when he has his inevitable lapse of focus or just gets a little unsettled it costs you so much. Woll when he's healthy and in mid season form, which I think he's closer to than anyone wants to believe, he just is so settled and poised. He may not be able to make the highlight real saves Sammy does (he certainly can and has done so, just not as frequent) but he makes harder saves look easier back being so square and big in the net. I would take that 100% of the time.

If Sammy ever figured it all out and never had a mental lapse again, he'd be an unreal goalie. But to think he has at this stage of his career is delusional. Case in point his last 2 starts. This is inevitable with Sammy. When does it happen next? It's going to, we don't know but it will happen. And then is it a bad period? Game? Months? We have seen any an all of these time frames. Giving him the keys is just wreckless.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 12:55 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Messier99</b></div><div>TB is the last game. I would not play the Game 1 goalie against FLA in the regular season game. It's meaningless.
I am now at Woll being the game 1 goalie. 2 bad games in a row (although 2nd half of yesterday was ok) for Sammy created this.
Maybe
FLA = Sammy
TBL = Woll.</div></div>

Sammy is exactly what we have seen. He's a peaks and valley player. When he's at his best he makes highlight real saves and keeps you in games you have no business being in. But when he's off his game, he flops all over the place, loses his angles and isn't even an NHL goalie. What version of Sammy are you going to get? Woll is poised and consistent. He's the future and should be given the chance to prove it. Throwing a guy who might be unreal one game and then get scored on from the side board on a bank shot to throw away a win is a mistake.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSat. at 1:51 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>So...my comments were specifically about the playoffs. I realize both of these guys have stolen games in the regular season but the playoffs are a different story.

Anyway I think it's a recipe for disaster to count on the goalies to play like Vasi, Hellebyuck and Shesterkin do.

The forwards and D-core just need to be better. This team has the game breakers, it just needs to play lock down defense in their end.

Also forgot that Jones can play one of the Florida/Tampa games and that makes sense and allows the other goalies to focus on the team they likely play in game 1.</div></div>

I think that is very much on Keefe's shoulders. He needs to adjust his game plan to account for how things change in the playoffs and he never does. Woll was absolutely terrific vs Florida last year by the way. Sammy isn't TO's long term answer and Woll is.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsFri. at 3:57 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>For the remaining games I'd start Woll vs Detroit and Florida and Sammy vs Tampa.

As of right now, for me Sammy is the game 1 starter but of course the leash is going to be short.

None of these goalies have shown they can steal games or series so...my expectations for goaltending is to keep the team in the game, nothing more, nothing less.</div></div>

I would say that is very untrue. Both Sammy and Woll can steal games, both have done so this season on multiple occasions. What's more important those is for our goalies to not lose us games. Samsonov definitely does that at times. And has a history of it. This season he had a month straight of blowing games. Woll's problem was health related. Got unlucky with a sprained ankle and has worked himself back into game shape. He should be the starter for sure. So long as the leafs play well in front of Woll he's very unlikely to hurt us. Likely wins us some games. Sammy can do that as well but we know by now that he's also going to have moments where he loses focus and it will cost us. I just wouldn't take the risk. He flops all over the place making athletic saves but sometimes it burns him and it's harder to play with a guy like vs a poised positional guy. Start Woll
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsFri. at 10:31 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>This game's a nothing game for Toronto... If they win, they'll stay in the same spot, if they lose, the exact same thing...

Gotta show that your franchise, and best player by far, won't be pushed around... Someone's gotta step in and if that's Domi, that's Domi</div></div>

Considering winning out would have meant 2nd place for sure,<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Woll, your turn to try and take the net back...

Not being pushed on Sammy, he got beat a few times where it was just nice shots... But still</div></div>

Woll should be the guy, we know what Sammy is in the playoffs, it's an adventure, might be good might be terrible but over enough games you'll see both and you can't afford terrible in the playoffs. Woll is the future, give him the net now.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed. at 6:04 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Nothing stopping from making a save and at times he came up big other times questionable especially recently, others have said it to he's been shaky which = being rattled lul but thats a different matter entirely. But as of now the convo is over as palhal put it should not even be a debate anymore lul

Again Sammy's the starter whether you like it or not and as fans we got to cheer for Sammy rather than be debbie doubter and wish he and the team fails by spouting nonsense. He won them a round vs. a team who went to SCF 3 times in a row when others like Freddie and Campbell couldnt and has been on a tear as of late going 18-3-1 since Jan 31 after a horrific start to the season.

In the end saying he's gonna fail and this and that and all these excuses before playoffs even start is the wrong way to go about it especially for a team whose fans and management want them to go on a run

As said a million times Woll's hopefully got a bright future but as of now he aint it and even next season I would not trust him to become the guy yet. He has not earned it or shown it consistently enough. Still has a lot of work to do

End of story, done.</div></div>

It's immensely insane to call Woll inconsistent but give Sammy a pass. The only thing Sammy is 100% consistent at is giving up bad goals and sometimes floundering all together. Just look at his career playoff numbers. Even vs Tampa he had 2 really bad games. Vs Florida his numbers looked better but terrible goals killed him. He's not trust worthy. Never has been and this season is an exclamation point on that. It's nuts how everyone just ignores that.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed. at 10:17 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>What happened last year has no relevence on this year. Cause if it does big 4 going quiet games 1-3 wont be fun lul. Those 4 going quiet till we were down 3-0 was really what cost them

In the end Woll has been struggling recently and should be no where near the starting job rn especially for the playoffs. Had an okay game tonight but still shaky at times and considering all factors his place is the backup rn.

You go with the goalie whose been hot as of late and its been Samsonov

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He's earned it and thats really all there is to it</div></div>

Last year, earlier this season, his entire career to this point.....none of it matters because a hot streak between his collapses is all you see eh? Woll is the future and he is playing good and better with each game. He's also better and more consistent than Samsonov. More poised, better positionally and doesn't really get rattled like Samsonov does. Sammy isn't leading the team to a cup, Woll is the guy they hope does that for years to come. Starting Sammy is a mistake
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsWed. at 10:15 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>2 goals on 18 shots for a 0.900sv against NJ for Woll vs. 2 goals on 33 shots for a 0.939sv against Pittsburgh for Samsonov how is that better lul.

This was Woll's first decent start in a while and hey didnt allow fist shot to go in but still not over the top considering he didnt face much

Again not better dont know why your so obsessed with that lul. He is not it rn. Has a bright future hopefully but still has a lot of learning to do.

Sammy's the game 1 starter whether yah like it or not. You can doubt him but he's the guy all we can do as fans is support em

He's earned it</div></div>

So it is Woll's fault the defence allowed an uncontested net front guy on the PK and also his fault a guy was allowed to split the defence and get a break away? You'll die on this hill and when it blows up in your face, you'll have flimsy nonsense as your excuse.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 10:48 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I mean you cant say that lul

All goalies can be bad for stretches even Woll

He's not been good recently and thats bad.


The NJ game for instance he was bad. He allowed the first shot in and couldnt stop a beachball and NJ had an XGA of 1.85 for the majority of that game.


Your basically wanting Sammy to lose us a series or game rather than route for him to win us a series or heck get us to a cup. Oh hes gonna let in a stinker oh hes gonna blow up and cost us rather than root for him lul. He's already done the impossible once and made one of the biggest turnarounds in the NHL

Not a good look for yah</div></div>

Sammy lost us the series vs Florida or greatly put us behind
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 10:46 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>That really dont mean much considering how bad Sammy was to start. Its a big hole to climb out from but if he keeps up these strong performances he will be over 0.900. As if both continue on their current trends its not great look for Woll.

Again if we look at the last 20 games Sammy's been the better goalie. Wolls been shaky and for playoffs being less than 2 weeks away not who we need in net rn.

And thats a silly question as we know what he has been since being called back up

An NHL starting goalie and has not looked back.

The real question is who is Woll

The answer = guy with a bright future hopefully but rn is not it. Should not be game 1 starter vs. FLA or BOS</div></div>

He is the better goalie, looked great tonight once again.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 7:34 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>That really dont mean much considering how bad Sammy was to start. Its a big hole to climb out from but if he keeps up these strong performances he will be over 0.900. As if both continue on their current trends its not great look for Woll.

Again if we look at the last 20 games Sammy's been the better goalie. Wolls been shaky and for playoffs being less than 2 weeks away not who we need in net rn.

And thats a silly question as we know what he has been since being called back up

An NHL starting goalie and has not looked back.

The real question is who is Woll

The answer = guy with a bright future hopefully but rn is not it. Should not be game 1 starter vs. FLA or BOS</div></div>

Woll's fault eh? Definitely his fault not McCabe or Benoit