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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:17 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>grok</b></div><div>i strongly disagree. this trade is a fantastic deal for st louis that improves the team short-term and makes signing pietrangelo significantly easier in the post-season, as STL nets about 1.5m in cap space from this deal. hutchinson and timashov might not be high value but timashov is strongly cost-controlled and hutchinson has been serviceable when he has access to a high-fundamentals defensive core. meanwhile kapanen is by a wide margin the best player in this trade and adds 20 goals to the team's middle six on a very nice contract. this is an absolute slam dunk from STL's perspective.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Blues aren't trading Allen until summer, maybe call back then... but Hutch &amp; Timashov hold no interest for us.</div></div>

I agree with both of you somewhat. The value the Blues receive in this trade is solid. However, <a href="/users/mokumboi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mokumboi</a> is likely correct in that the Note won't trade Allen until the summer, especially with the rough go Binnington has had lately. It's fair deal, but the timing just isn't right for the Blues. One other thing to consider: what if Jake Allen continues his stellar play all year? What is his value then come summertime? The Blues would have a goalie with one year on his contract at a very reasonable $4.3 million who lit it up the year before, has been a number one before, has stolen a playoff series (Sorry Minnesota. Not really) before, and is young enough that a team willing to trust him long-term can sign him long-term if desired.

Armstrong would perhaps be cutting off his own legs if he moved Allen before the year is up, and I'm not sure that would rank high on his "to-do" list.
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>Yes, Georgiev seems to be worth a second+ (slightly less than Capo) and I think Kreider is one of the most overrated (value wise) players in the league, he'll get at most the return that Zucc or Nyquist got (second+third w/conditions) and I think Jenik (plus the slight value left from the Capo+2nd/Georgiev swap) is worth more than that TO ARZ bc they have a long time to compete, and Jenik fits in with that, and they definitely will not have the cap to resign Kreider Hall and Gerogiev (or the cap to take them this year) and one of those guys I'd slightly more important than the others lol</div></div>

I agree that Georgiev is playing himself into a probable 2nd round pick. I also agree that Capo likely becomes a solid second pairing d-man. Yes, Jenik is good...thus his high selection in the recent draft. For the very reason you gave at the end of your comment is the reason I would go all in if I were Arizona. You're right, they can't afford Hall and (possibly or) Kreider, but they can this year if (and only if) Raanta is out long-term. They acquired Hall as a rental. Why not gamble Jenik and solidify their scoring with Kreider and go for it? As a Blues fan, the only team in the Western Conference that seems to consistently give the Note trouble (and worry me) is Arizona. If the Yotes can add a couple more studs while sacrificing an 18 year old who is perhaps two-plus years away from the NHL, I'd say that's a solid bet.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec 18, 2019 at 5:53