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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 19, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.
Thread: Eichel as the Gretzky trade pls read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>Let's break the trade down.
Taking Okposo is worth about 2 first round draft picks.
Ristolainen is playing really well so his part of the trade is Schneider, and 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
Leaving Eichel for Zibanejad, Howden, 2023 1st round pick (NYR), Howden, and the 2 first round picks for taking Okposo's contract.
<strong>Howden </strong>appears to be on the same career path as Casey Mittelstadt, which is a third line center.
Zibanejad, would obviously be a good asset but he is signed for only one season.
I guess depending on what the Sabres could get for Zibanejad.</div></div>

I was in this exercise, just trying to clear the decks financially for the sabres and replicate what in a cap environment the gretzky trade would be.. Getting rid of Okoposo was purely a financial play, because no one is taking that skinner contract. If i was Buffalo i trade Zibanejad for a 2022 first and 2023 conditional first to pretty much any stanley cup contender. If you trade eichel its not going to be for fair value, its going to be as the precursor to an entire rebuild. I went by how desperate every Sabres fan was to get rid of Ristolen last year. Again a salary dump. Clear the decks, start over, use the additional 4 -5 first round picks to rebuild. anyone who has ever seen what superstars get traded for knows fair value isnt coming back, its a white flag. For the sabres they better hope its a white flag before the player has leverage. In 2022, adter the ntc kicks in eichel gets traded for pennies on the dollar.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 21, 2020 at 1:23 p.m.
Thread: Calgary Jersey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>I guess the value is there in the trade, but Calgary simply doesn't do it IMO
Strome would need a new deal, while Monahan is way better and under a nice contract for a 1C
Deangelo has a long way to go IMO to be what Hanifan is now. plus the headache of being an RFA
I like the idea of Georgiev and maybe a deal can be made on the side, but the rangers need him if/when Lundqvist retires
draft picks are nice, but the flames are competing now</div></div>

I think the rangers would try to get out of sending one of those draft picks but i think they would do this. It solves problems for both teams. It take surplus for calgary defensive minded LD and surplus for Rangers offensive minded RD and helps each team fill out a need. I think the cap charges for each would would probably offset too. Plus 2.5 for georgiev. All in all its a pretty fair trade. Which most people in capfriendly dont like. They always want to give their trash for the other teams gold.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 24, 2020 at 11:57 a.m.
Thread: Avalanche
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>Wow! Awesome response. Nothing says civil debate like insulting someones intelligence. So if Kreider is so good and a "clear first line winger", why has he never eclipsed the 30 goal or 55 point mark? Those seem like low bench marks for "sure first line wingers", no?</div></div>

Its not like Krieder over here having spent his career playing with McDavid as his pivot. He's a very good player. And he is a better player when the games get tight in the playoffs and that has a lot of value when you are trying to give up the 31st pick in the first round for a guy. As for the points, he's not a sniper. He the guy who screens goalies and redirects or comes flying down the wing. It's a specific highly valued type of player. Is that trade probably an overpay. Yes i would say so, but tis not one of these toronto trades where its guys who cant make their 3rd line are bringing back a potential future no 1 goalie and a top pair defenseman.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 8, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
Thread: TDL Everybody Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks</b></div><div>What would Strome cost say the Sabres?</div></div>

Strome is an rfa making 3.1 mm with arb rights. At this point im no longer convinced he's a bust on his own. The math said his number from last year were unsustainable, but then he got on a line with panarin. Sure his numbers are inflated with Panarin, but he's the kind of player who put with a dynamic player makes good on it. He was like the 6th overal pick. So i think he costs more then 2 two's, because he has term and only needs to be tendered at 3.4. If he was a ufa it would be the 2 twos. I think the krieder and the Fast values are right. Gorgiev is weird, if San jose hadnt **** the bed this year you'd think he'd be going there for a 2+ or a one with like a 4th attached to him. Personally i think deangelo's going to cost more then that, but mostly because he has term left and such a low cap number that any team can afford the add.