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Dec 8, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>Why do you think that? They won the presidents just last year. It's basically the same team. They upgraded their RW depth. The only guys they lost was krug and chara. Gryz can easily fill that krug hole and 1 of the LD kids will step up for chara's lost, whether thats lauzon, zbroil, or vaak. This is more of a changing of the guards than a rebuild.</div></div>
Yeah but defense is so important, especially in today's game.
They play a lot more minutes than forwards do.
You can't underestimate Chara and Krug's impact on the team. The two, alongside McAvoy and Carlo, formed one of the deadliest top four's in the NHL because they complimented each other so well. Chara, even not in his prime, has a long reach that is without par. McAvoy has great even-strength offensive ability, alongside physicality and a good skating stride. Krug was the team's power play specialist and Carlo is the stay at home guy who skates well.
Basically, their best left D is now Matt Grzelcyk. He can take more important minutes, since he did well in a limited role, but he does not have the reach and physicality of Chara nor the power play ability of Krug.
I don't think they will collapse. Their offensive lines are unchanged except for Craig Smith, and they still have one of the deadliest first lines in the NHL. Oh wait, Marchand and Pasta are both injured to start the year.
Nevermind, we'll see how it goes. I was wrong about Columbus and Winnipeg.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>Only way Kotkaniemi gets 6 Million if it's for 8 years and we are taking a risk</div></div>
First of all, it would be stupid to do that unless he truly breaks out (not even sure if there Will be a season at this point). Second, the point of taking a risk with Kotkaniemi is just not valid since yes, he did play well in the playoffs but he still has some work to do if he wants to earn that big boy contract. He needs to prove he can be a CONSISTENT point scorer in the NHL, and inconsistent was the best way to describe his 2019-20 NHL season. The best bet for him would be to give him a bridge deal.
As for Petry, it is a good deal from a value perspective. He is the true definition of a late bloomer, and he is a commodity that most teams would LOVE to have, which is a point producing defensman who is a great skater, uninjured in the past couple of years and tall on top of that. He also improved his defensive game a lot during the playoffs and throws the body around. There is some risk of regression, however, he was very consistent in the past three years and brings an edge to Montreal's offensive game that isn't there with other defensmen in the team. He isn't easily replaceable.
Next step: Brendan Gallagher. He won't come cheap, but he is a unique player. As for Danault and Tatar, I don't know where they will be next year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny12357</b></div><div>This trade is both what frustrates me about Bergevin and has to admit he's made good moves.
This move is a slam dunk for a rebuilding team. Turning a 4th and some cash into a 2nd and conditional 4th in just over a month is a very nice bit of asset management. If Bergevin would just be more all in on rebuilding, I think he has the creativity to really do a lot to turn things around. Montreal has a great prospect pool, but this team has cap space they wont need for this year and next, and players who aren't likely to be part of the eventual success. Instead they have a lot of middle six forwards and useful D that are stopping them from getting to the basement and the GM seems to suggest that it's playoffs or bust each year.
If you were to grade his moves over the last couple of years purely on their own, I think he has done a great job rebuilding, just don't tell him that he's rebuilding.
With the prices what they are this year, hopefully he can turn Petry, Tatar, Armia, and/or Danault into a haul. He could even retain salary to pump up the value on any of these guys if he wanted to.</div></div>
Petry and/or Tatar: Maybe if the right offer presents itself. Petry has a modified NTC, and he has been here for five years now. He may be crying à la Dillon if he goes. But the value of defensmen is sky high right now. The value of Tomas Tatar might never be higher right now, and teams might bite, because he plays the best hockey of his career in Montreal. No way Bergevin trades Danault. He is a late bloomer who is improving every year and nobody can replace his duties in the faceoff departement. And I think Armia may be traded next year, not this year. He is one of the rare tall forwards in a Canadiens organisation full of small forwards. Kovalchuck, the sooner the better. Especially with the way he has been playing over the past five games. He has been invisible on the ice.
Oh, this is an interesting trade, one that fits the needs for both teams.
However, if the Canucks miss the playoffs (which is unlikely to happen, but this league can turn on a dime), the return is less significant for New Jersey. What is interesting for them is if the Vancouver Canucks make the playoffs and Arizona don't get a lottery pick, they now have THREE first round draft picks. They can do A LOT with those. They can move up, down, or simply keep them. This is brillant for New Jersey because they have some leverage in decision making, and this upcoming draft is STACKED !!! The best since 2015. As for Nolan Foote, he is a great prospect to have. He has grit, and the Devils don't have enough of that. Great day for the Devils.
As for Tampa, yes they did overpay, but they wanted to have the best chances moving forward in the playoffs. Coleman is exactly the kind of forward the Lightning needed, he will have a great chance to prove himself. They have so much depth they can put Patrick Maroon on the fourth line. They have two years to win the cup.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MJC13</b></div><div>So these last 2 weeks have basically just been every other NHL GM dunking on Dubas.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Every RFA signed since Marner has made Kyle Dubas look like a doofus</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Makes the Marner signing even more horrendous</div></div>
Well, Kyle Dubas basically had no choice after Matthews signed his contract.
First of all, he is the youngest of all GM's, and player agents tear him to pieces because of his inexperience in the NHL. Second of all, Toronto has the highest taxes in the NHL with Ottawa, and that takes away from a player's salary.
For example, Marner's contract is 10.893 million per year. That means he receives about 5 million dollars per year. Rantanen, on the other hand, receives about 5.4 million per year after taxes. Point receives about 4.2 million after taxes because Tampa has no state tax.
So yeah, player negociaions are complicated. But there's no need to bash a GM. The NHL should have a salary cap based on taxes, but the NHL will never allow it.
Well, the Hurricanes improve their five on five play but their special teams take a dip in the process. On the other hand, in St-Louis, there will be an overload of defensmen who can run the power-play. If Pietrangelo walks come free agency time, this is a big loss for St-Louis.
Faulk is overrated. The Hurricanes knew that. He is not a good number one defensman on a team. That's why the Hurricanes traded for Dougie Hamilton. He is way overpaid in St-Louis, especially for his later years. If Faulk is 6,5 million, Pietrangelo is 9 million. Robert Bortuzzo is a good third pairing defensman.
This is the kind of trade that makes you wonder, Did any team significantly improve ? I don't think so. Edmundson brings great physicality and 5 on 5 defensive play to the Canes but not much else. Bokk is not a top tier prospect. On the other hand, the Canes don't have any big players to sign for next year so maybe they will attract free agents on the way.
It's an odd trade, that's for sure.
Forum: NHLFeb 23, 2019 at 10:28 Forum: NHLFeb 23, 2019 at 6:05