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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny12357</b></div><div>This trade is both what frustrates me about Bergevin and has to admit he's made good moves.
This move is a slam dunk for a rebuilding team. Turning a 4th and some cash into a 2nd and conditional 4th in just over a month is a very nice bit of asset management. If Bergevin would just be more all in on rebuilding, I think he has the creativity to really do a lot to turn things around. Montreal has a great prospect pool, but this team has cap space they wont need for this year and next, and players who aren't likely to be part of the eventual success. Instead they have a lot of middle six forwards and useful D that are stopping them from getting to the basement and the GM seems to suggest that it's playoffs or bust each year.
If you were to grade his moves over the last couple of years purely on their own, I think he has done a great job rebuilding, just don't tell him that he's rebuilding.
With the prices what they are this year, hopefully he can turn Petry, Tatar, Armia, and/or Danault into a haul. He could even retain salary to pump up the value on any of these guys if he wanted to.</div></div>
Petry and/or Tatar: Maybe if the right offer presents itself. Petry has a modified NTC, and he has been here for five years now. He may be crying à la Dillon if he goes. But the value of defensmen is sky high right now. The value of Tomas Tatar might never be higher right now, and teams might bite, because he plays the best hockey of his career in Montreal. No way Bergevin trades Danault. He is a late bloomer who is improving every year and nobody can replace his duties in the faceoff departement. And I think Armia may be traded next year, not this year. He is one of the rare tall forwards in a Canadiens organisation full of small forwards. Kovalchuck, the sooner the better. Especially with the way he has been playing over the past five games. He has been invisible on the ice.
Oh, this is an interesting trade, one that fits the needs for both teams.
However, if the Canucks miss the playoffs (which is unlikely to happen, but this league can turn on a dime), the return is less significant for New Jersey. What is interesting for them is if the Vancouver Canucks make the playoffs and Arizona don't get a lottery pick, they now have THREE first round draft picks. They can do A LOT with those. They can move up, down, or simply keep them. This is brillant for New Jersey because they have some leverage in decision making, and this upcoming draft is STACKED !!! The best since 2015. As for Nolan Foote, he is a great prospect to have. He has grit, and the Devils don't have enough of that. Great day for the Devils.
As for Tampa, yes they did overpay, but they wanted to have the best chances moving forward in the playoffs. Coleman is exactly the kind of forward the Lightning needed, he will have a great chance to prove himself. They have so much depth they can put Patrick Maroon on the fourth line. They have two years to win the cup.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MJC13</b></div><div>So these last 2 weeks have basically just been every other NHL GM dunking on Dubas.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Every RFA signed since Marner has made Kyle Dubas look like a doofus</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Makes the Marner signing even more horrendous</div></div>
Well, Kyle Dubas basically had no choice after Matthews signed his contract.
First of all, he is the youngest of all GM's, and player agents tear him to pieces because of his inexperience in the NHL. Second of all, Toronto has the highest taxes in the NHL with Ottawa, and that takes away from a player's salary.
For example, Marner's contract is 10.893 million per year. That means he receives about 5 million dollars per year. Rantanen, on the other hand, receives about 5.4 million per year after taxes. Point receives about 4.2 million after taxes because Tampa has no state tax.
So yeah, player negociaions are complicated. But there's no need to bash a GM. The NHL should have a salary cap based on taxes, but the NHL will never allow it.
Well, the Hurricanes improve their five on five play but their special teams take a dip in the process. On the other hand, in St-Louis, there will be an overload of defensmen who can run the power-play. If Pietrangelo walks come free agency time, this is a big loss for St-Louis.
Faulk is overrated. The Hurricanes knew that. He is not a good number one defensman on a team. That's why the Hurricanes traded for Dougie Hamilton. He is way overpaid in St-Louis, especially for his later years. If Faulk is 6,5 million, Pietrangelo is 9 million. Robert Bortuzzo is a good third pairing defensman.
This is the kind of trade that makes you wonder, Did any team significantly improve ? I don't think so. Edmundson brings great physicality and 5 on 5 defensive play to the Canes but not much else. Bokk is not a top tier prospect. On the other hand, the Canes don't have any big players to sign for next year so maybe they will attract free agents on the way.
It's an odd trade, that's for sure.
Forum: NHLFeb 23, 2019 at 10:28 Forum: NHLFeb 23, 2019 at 6:05 Forum: NHLFeb 23, 2019 at 1:13 <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cmuggym</b></div><div>We are seeing with Colorado how no matter how great one of your lines are if you don't have depth you lose. No i'll admit the core of players that will be eating the majority of the Leafs salary are all great players but if they are filling the rest of those spots with borderline NHLers their depth is going to be a huge weakness and get exposed big time against better teams. Not to mention injuries they are basicaly banking on no one getting hurt and we've seen with Matthews already he is prone to injuries. I'm genuinely curious to see how it all plays out</div></div>
Well, at least they have Frederik Andersen, Morgan Rielly and Nazem Kadri for a lot of years. And Nylander is tradable, his cap hit goes down next year. Marleau can go back to San Jose, i'm sure he would love to. But they have to trade someone. Plus, eight year contracts can become disasters, especially with older players. Matthews didn't sign that kind of contract. He wants to have leverage early on in his carrer, which is great for not only the Leafs, but if he ever decides to sign with another team, it would also be great. Exibit A: John Tavares. Tavares signing in Toronto was great for the Maples Leafs because they now have two number one centers, but it was also great for the New York Islanders, because they found their identity after Tavares left. If Matthews leaves, it would not be that bad for the Maple Leafs because they would have space to work with. Tavares will set a standard in the NHL.
As for Marner, they have a ton of options.
Forum: NHLDec 27, 2018 at 12:33 Forum: NHLDec 16, 2018 at 12:04 <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>I wouldn't mind getting Muzzin. Like you said however, he's their 2nd best Dman. I think it would cost more Hudon and two 2nd's (would still consider Olofsson a 2nd) to get him. I still personally feel that that's a lot of assets, but their not that substantial considering your trying to get a top pairing Dman.
LA would probably want a winger, but probably a more established young guy they know can play in the top 6 (Hudon isn't that). Wouldn't surprise me that Lehkonen would have to be in the deal for Muzzin. Don't know if I'd be willing to do that.</div></div>
Lehkonen is not a winger they want to trade. He is part of the ''finnish squad'' that helps Kotkaniemi, which also includes Joel Armia and Antti Niemi. Also, don't forget that Hudon had a 30 point rookie season. He is just not in the right place right now. Lehkonen is. He has top 6 potential, but the finnish squad, Shaw and Byron are players MB do not want to trade. Shaw is really solid with Drouin and Domi, and Byron is the mentor. Pretty similar wingers, but one is more defensively responsible (Lehkonen) and the other takes more risks, for better or worse (Hudon). Hudon is a fast skater. L.A. doesn't have enough of these. That's why they traded for Carl Hagelin.