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Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 28, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread:
Question to OTT fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>The one thing I'd say about Murphy's injury history is that it's not typically the same thing. It's not like Calvin DeHaan with three years in a row with the same shoulder...to which he even came back from that too to be honest. I'm not suggesting he never ever gets hurt....that's just part of hockey, but... Back, Groin, Hip, Then this past year the 1st time he received a concussion with the Hawks. Full Injury history below for transparency.
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/players/news/connor-murphy/2160/</div></div>
I was looking into Murphy’s past for other concussions, and I didn’t see any. In fact, he seems to have different injuries, just a lot of them, luckily short term mostly.
So I understand what you’re saying, but this is a big one. Ottawa lost Clarke MacArthur to concussions, we fans understand how bad they can get. Dorion would be cautious about acquiring Murphy even if the pick wasn’t involved.
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Armchair-GM
May 28, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
Question to OTT fans
Connor Murphy needs to show there’s no lingering effects of his two concussions last season. His trade value is pretty low right now. BTW, Matt Murray has the same issues going on.
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Ryan didn't ride on Spezza's coattails. They didn't even play together that much. People anticipated great things between them but they didn't have any chemistry so they were split quite fast. Ryan mostly played with McArthur and Turris in his first few years in Ottawa and that was a great line, until each of these players got derailed by injuries (MacArthur with concussions, Turris with the Gumby incident, Ryan with hands injuries)
Why people continue to talk without knowing has always been beyond me.
</div></div>
That was the point, his argument was that Fiala will do just as well with Stützle is the same as the arguments that Ryan would do just as well with Spezza. You’ll need to go back and reread the comments, it seems you didn’t get the point.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>What a weird comment that was... Bobby Ryan was a 55+ pts / 0.70+ PPG player the first 8 years of his career. He did that in years where there was a lot less goals scored. That was first line numbers back then.
During his prime (2008-09 to 2015-16), he was the 37th best scorer among NHL forwards, with 437 pts in 584 GP (similar production to Bergeron, Duchene, Jagr, Couture, etc during that period of time)
Several hands injuries (and personal problems) is what made him decline in his late 20's. Who knows how long Fiala's prime is going to last? Or if teams are going to figure out ways to reduce goals against, once again.
Even if you don't account Fiala's first 4 seasons (0.48 PPG player with Nashville), Fiala has been the 27th best forward scorer since his "peak" started in 2019-20. It's great but the hyperbole was ridiculous
If you start comparing at the "same age" (21 years old), then Fiala has been 55th in forwards scoring since 2017-18</div></div>
Again, you didn’t get the point.
I compared the same situation from the other side, the Bobby Ryan side. What a player did before a trade is not always an indication of how they will perform after a trade.
Bobby Ryan continued his PPG pace with Ottawa, he just changed his ratio of goals to assists, until the hand injuries occurred.
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 7:11 p.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>You missed the point, you mentioned, "Both Boldy and to that extent Stutzle are more than capable finishers. If they're on his line he'd be more inclined to pass the puck"
I brought up Bobby Ryan because the same thing was said about Spezza and Getzlaf
As for Bobby Ryan, when Fiala has four 30+ goal seasons, then compare Fiala to him</div></div>
Kevin Fiala (career 419 games)
419 games, 124 goals, 159 assists, 283 points, 0.68 PPG
Bobby Ryan (first 419 games of his career)
419 games, 165 goals, 159 assists, 324 points, 0.77 PPG
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Boldy, Stutzle, and Fiala are far... far... better players than Bobby Ryan ever was.
Bobby Ryan is closer to Frederic Gaudreau or Ryan Hartman than a legitimate top-six player like Fiala.
They're not even close.
The difference is Spezza is Spezza, and Ryan rode his coattails. Fiala was a 70 point pace player <em>before</em> Boldy arrived and dealt with bottom six scrubs during that same timespan. He's closer to Stutzle than to Ryan.
C'mon.</div></div>
You missed the point, you mentioned, "Both Boldy and to that extent Stutzle are more than capable finishers. If they're on his line he'd be more inclined to pass the puck"
I brought up Bobby Ryan because the same thing was said about Spezza and Getzlaf
As for Bobby Ryan, when Fiala has four 30+ goal seasons, then compare Fiala to him
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>1) Fiala has always been a second-half type of player. It's where he's gotten the bulk of his production for his entire career.
I doubt that'll change wherever he goes. Bottom line, he comes out slow.
2) His assists go up when he has linemates of worth capable of playing at or near his level.
IE... top-six talent.
If they're not capable of finishing, why pass the puck? Better to do it himself at that point. Both Boldy and to that extent Stutzle are more than capable finishers. If they're on his line he'd be more inclined to pass the puck.
His assists won't go down if playing with someone like Stutzle. They probably go up.</div></div>
I’ve heard this argument before, and how Bobby Ryan was good for 40 goals playing with Spezza
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IcemanJoe</b></div><div>What?! Haha. He had 85 points last year with a defensive first C and a rookie. Those are facts. Hypotheticals are what you and I are arguing about. There’s no guarantee he goes backwards in his career. That’s your rhetoric. If you can say he’s going to take a step back, I have just as much right to say he’s going to take a step forward. And I provided my reason. Get off your high horse.</div></div>
Rhetoric means nothing, it’s just blather
Batherson is awesome
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IcemanJoe</b></div><div>And I’ll say Boldy went through rookie ups and downs. and Freddie isn’t offensively skilled. Put him with offensive minded players and he’ll be a constant 90+ point guy.</div></div>
Stop, jeez, you keep throwing out rhetoric as your arguments, that’s how teenagers argue. Try putting together an adult argument
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
Thread:
Bye Bye Cat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>I was reading normally until I saw this piece :
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
Why would any team give a lottery ticket to Bedard/Michkov for Connor Murphy, a cap dump and a 3rd?
This is insane. Remove the picks and it's much more likely
It's more than 1/3. White buyout would be a 0.875 cap hit for the next 6 years. Actually it even adds $625,000 on our cap in the 3rd year.
https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/colin-white</div></div>
You have that reversed, the team gets a cap credit that one season.
The dollar cost is 1/3, $5.25MM cost, $10.5MM saved
The cap hit is the cap hit, it doesn’t say cap hit discount, that’s the teams “dead cap” amount, is how I read it
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IcemanJoe</b></div><div>I’m curious why you think his assists will decline? He was playing with a 4th line C and a rookie last year. I actually think he’s a 90+ point guy when he’s with other offensive minded guys.
Also Fiala won’t be looking for a short term deal, I’d imagine 6 is the fewest years he’ll do. Russo speculated he’s looking for 7-7.25 mil per. I’d imagine that’s over 6/7 years. He just put up 85 points, now is his time to cash in. Wild only offered 6 mil / 3 last year.</div></div>
Fiala’s goals are pretty steady
23G in 64 games, 0.36 goals per game
20G in 50 games, 0.40 goals per game
33G in 82 games, 0.40 goals per game
I’m not going to break down PP versus 5v5 goals
Boldy, that rookie, made his NHL debut on Jan 6th
Fiala’s splits before and after Jan 6th
31 games, 7G, 14A, 21 pts, 0.68 PPG
51 games, 26G, 38A, 64 pts, 1.25 PPG
Gaudreau’s splits before and after Jan 6th
25 games, 2G, 8A, 10 pts, 0.40 PPG
51 games, 12G, 22A, 34 pts, 0.67 PPG
Boldy is going to be good, and he’s the reason for Fiala’s uptick in assists.
MIN had a good team before Boldy arrived, so it’s difficult to say Fiala will have the same success as he did with Boldy, and even with Boldy, Fiala’s numbers could return to their previous levels, hard to say. I see this as Fiala’s career year, and on a contract year that’s good for him. New team, new line mates, new system, we’ll see how he fairs, but I’m not worried about his goals, they will come.
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 4:33 a.m.
Thread:
Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Pretty big overpay. Refer to Reinhart trade, should be a bit better than that</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sens65</b></div><div>Pinto may not have a huge trade value but Sens fans value him over everyone except the core players. We think he has Bergeron potential, so not trading him.
Roby Jarventie and the 7th overall is a much better offer that I'd do.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildwinswhen</b></div><div>Jarventie is a nice player, but we have ALOT of left handed LWs. He won't be the guy if we're taking a prospect.
If the fans think Pinto is Bergeron, there's no way we're getting him. Which is too bad. We really need a RH center or defenseman.
What about Kastelic or Bernard-Docker?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildwinswhen</b></div><div>Sounds like Kastelic is a tweener. Can score 14 goals in the AHL, but not good enough to be an NHLer. The Wild have had a few of those guys in their system.
I think the prospect will be either GMBG working some magic to get Pinto or he'll target JBD. We need a plan for the future at RD.</div></div>
I’m not sure why people keep referencing the Reinhart trade since that first was top 10 protected and Ottawa’s is a known #7 OA, unless it’s just the pick + prospect, but that is pretty standard. Since the Ottawa pick is so good, the prospect will not be an A prospect, which is what Pinto is.
Kastelic is a depth guy, he was protected in Ottawa and still didn’t do that great. He’s very good on draws though, iirc, and that’ll keep him in the discussion for the 23 man roster. Right now, I expect Gambrell to be the 4C, or Kastelic maybe. Both are place holders for Ostapchuk for when he arrives.
The 7OA might be enough on it’s own to get Fiala, but it depends on the bidding war. I’m not overpaying for Fiala though. He’s good, but I think he is going to cash in and then have trouble living up to his contract. Every team has an overpaid player, might as well be a 30g guy. BTW, I believe it’s his assists that will decline, putting him back to a 65-70 pt player.
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Armchair-GM
May 26, 2022 at 3:42 a.m.
Thread:
Bye Bye Cat
CHI
White, Colin
2023 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
Johnson, Tyler
Murphy, Connor
2022 3rd round pick (VGK)
This is ridiculous.
This isn’t real, and trying to fool people here is meaningless because, this isn’t real.
Johnson is a cap dump, and Murphy missed the last 22 games with a concussion, after missing games earlier in the season because of a…concussion.
Even if you thought White was a cap dump, which he isn’t, he can be bought out at 1/3 this summer rather than do this ridiculous deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 22, 2022 at 3:33 a.m.
Thread:
Get that 1st
CHI
Murray, Matt
Watson, Austin
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
Kubalik, Dominik
Beaudin, Nicolas
You do realize this isn’t real? So fooling people with crap like this means nothing, and not fooling people with crap like this gets you laughed at…
Ottawa says no, lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 20, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
Thread:
Tkachuk Affair
Calgary has almost $27MM in cap space with 14 players in place. Good luck on that offer sheet.
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Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread:
Seattle Through the Years 2021-22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JustanIdea</b></div><div>I'm actually an Ottawa fan and I wanted to conceptualize what a Dunn trade would look like and I though of this, where Ottawa gets ride of all their cap dumps and gives Seattle two pieces that will be important in Thomson and Jarventie that Ottawa probably doesn't need.
I also think that if Dunn is available for not all that much then Ottawa should run to get him cause he is a top four defenseman capable of playing both sides and he would make a pretty darn good partner for Sanderson considering that they play very similarly. I also wanted Jarventie cause if you paired him with Bedard then that could become the Mikko Rantanen Nathan McKinnon pairing. And I viewed Thomson as an important complementary piece of the 2nRD behind Jirichek.
This really is more of a pipe dream but these are the types of players that I would want if I was Seattle. I would also tank for Bedard cause then you'd have a semi-local superstar that would sell huge amounts of tickets.</div></div>
Rethink the Dunn trade where these three players;
Zaitsev, Nikita
White, Colin
Murray, Matt
Aren't cap dumps
Does Zaitsev make more than he should? Probably, but not so much more that he needs to be dumped. Dumping a players salary means his cap hit <strong>far exceeds</strong> his worth, AND, the team needs cap space now. I've proven Zaitsev's worth.
White might make more than he seems to be worth, but looking at his advanced stats, his PDO, his age and ability to take another step up, and his contract isn't as bad as some would have people believe, but regardless, the chatter is about buying him out at 1/3 cost (a bad idea), not spending assets to dump him, that's just ridiculous.
Murray is suffering from concussion symptoms. He's either healthy and playing well, which isn't a cap dump, or he goes back into concussion protocol and LTIR where his contract doesn't affect the cap. Definitely not a cap dump.
Sure 25 year old Dunn can play the right side, but so can 21 year old, natural right shot, Lassi Thomson. There's no rush to promote Thomson or JBD with Zaitsev, Hamonic, and Zub on the team, not to mention Brannstrom. No assets needed to be used to acquire them.
Getting Dunn isn't really needed anymore, maybe 1-2 seasons ago, but not anymore. Sanderson has arrived, and Brannstrom is still available.
This is just a lot of giving for something that isn't needed
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
Seattle Through the Years 2021-22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>As much as I appreciate thinking outside the box, it's difficult to imagine Ottawa would part with so much to acquire Dunn when the hole in the top 4 would be on the right beside Chabot and Sanderson and Dunn shoots left.</div></div>
Agreed, that was the first reason on my list of about half a dozen, lol
I don’t think people appreciate some Ottawa players after so much negativity tweeted about them. I enjoy pointing out the facts to that negativity, lol
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Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 7:49 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Zaitsev ices the puck too much and always panics instead of turning back to keep possession.
White and Connor Brown aren’t very good with the puck and have hard time creating offence.
I don’t mind Matt Murray but Forsberg is the clear #1 right now</div></div>
Zaitsev had the highest CoC this season, again, he’s out against the other teams best, shift after shift. Icing the puck happens, and sometimes it’s deliberate. I laughed during last nights game when the broadcasters actually stated that after an icing. It stopped play and allowed the defenders to rest a moment. If you dont have a clear exit, ice it rather than turn it over. There’s a reason Zaitsev led the Sens defencemen in fewest giveaways per 60.
White, with his 55% corsi, had a PDO of 933, which is extremely low.
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTKKz65XwCAsOfh?format=jpg&name=large" alt="FTKKz65XwCAsOfh?format=jpg&name=large">
Murray is either healthy and plays well, or he continues to have concussion symptoms and ends up on LTIR
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Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 7:24 p.m.
Thread:
Seattle Through the Years 2021-22
SEA
Daoust, Philippe [RFA Rights]
Järventie, Roby
Zaitsev, Nikita
White, Colin
Murray, Matt
Thomson, Lassi
2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
This is basically two trades in one as Ottawa gets a bona fida top four defensemen in Dunn and gets out of the contracts of Murray, Zaitsev, and White. So I'll kinda explain it in two seperate trades with the first one being the Dunn trade and the second one being the Murray-Zaitsev trade.
1. This trade is primairily Jarventie and Thomson for Dunn and I get that those are two pretty good prospects for Ottawa but Ottawa does need a top four defensemen and Dunn is pretty good all over the ice and is a physical defenseman that can score and that plays pretty well into DJ Smith's system. Jarventie and Thomson are also blocked on the way to the NHL level as there is more depth there. I also think that the Sens will keep and prioritize JBD cause other than Zub they don't have a defensemen with the same profile.
2. The trade is pretty much White, Murray, Zaitsev, and Daoust for nothing as that's 15 million in cap dumps and that allows the Sens to pay Stutzle, Sanderson, Pinto, and Norris in the coming years and that cap space does allow them to add on more freely in the coming years. Plus it allows Seattle to get to the Cap floor and Daoust is pretty much in the same boat as Jarventie and Thomson in that he doesn't really have a path to the NHL. Plus he is a way's away but does have good scoring talent.
OTT
Dunn, Vince
Additional Details:
Ottawa gets a cost controlled young top four defensemen that is an RFA at the end of his contract that can contribute at all ends of the ice and would probably fit well in DJ Smith's system and would give them a more balanced defense core as he is kinda a very similar but less talented Chabot.
Ottawa says no
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>He didn’t really hurt it. He re-aggravated it when he came back and wasn’t 100%</div></div>
It might be semantics, but if “aggravating” it can require surgery, then it’s hurt, and if it can be “aggravated” once on a faceoff, it <strong>might<strong> be “aggravated” again on another faceoff.
It’s these responses that make me regret posting on this site.
I get it, you hate White and love Pinto, you love Zub and hate Zaitsev, you hate Murray and…</strong></strong>
Not fixing this…
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Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Ottawa could trade Pinto for an impact winger and keep White as 3C and not be in a bad spot imo. I don't think they will or even should, but everything but the point totals suggest that he's a lot better than he's credited for. With health, I think a Formenton-White-Brown 3rd line would be pretty money next year.
Still think the buyout is coming and he's gonna go figure it out in Boston, and I think Pinto is gonna stay in Ottawa too.</div></div>
I think Boston would be very interested in Boston local Colin White, if he were to be bought out, with Bergeron’s future unclear.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I like Pinto moving to the wing too.</div></div>
Hurting his shoulder on a faceoff definitely gives me pause. Let’s swap Pinto and White in my lineup…
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>If we acquire nobody then I hope this would happen :
Tkachuk - Norris - Joseph
Greig - Stutzle - Batherson
Formenton - Pinto - Brown
Kelly - Kastelic - Watson
Gambrell
I like White but he's not a Top-6 forward and should be on the 3rd line. However, I would rather have all of Formenton, Pinto, Brown and Joseph (if we acquire someone) on the 3rd line too. Nick Paul too if we could re-sign him. So we might have to think about saving money (owed 15.75 M$ for the next 3 years)
Might as well buy him out or trade him in a package to get a Top-6 Winger (with the 7th OA pick and another asset? Like Brannstrom for example)</div></div>
Definitely a lot of 3rd line forwards and bottom pair defencemen on this team, lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 19, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTEkAkGXwAEcMmD?format=jpg&name=large" alt="FTEkAkGXwAEcMmD?format=jpg&name=large">
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Armchair-GM
May 15, 2022 at 4:27 p.m.
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Actual Realistic Sens 22-23 Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hogie5</b></div><div> He had 35 goals this year, if he wants to be here long term then his agent will use Brady tkachuk and svechnikovs contacts as comparables. I’ll agree with Joseph but formenton had 20 goals this season and showed a lot of potential, I don’t think something around the 3 mill range is too much. Why would you buyout MDZ when he only has 1 year left? It would affect the cap for a couple years after. A white buyout will only cost 875k against the cap which is ridiculously cheap considering he makes something like 4.95 mill per year. I agree that they should be targeting a top 3-4 dman, but I don’t have any sort of trust in Pierre dorion and that’s why I signed Kulak. Pierre will say he’s the top 4 guy we need when in reality he’s a bottom pair guy. </div></div>
I know the White buyout numbers very well, as I've posted on this numerous times now. White might get bought out, but if he is, the bloggers will roast Dorion with their 20/20 hindsight analysis. People keep calling it a no brainer without understanding both sides to the argument. I think it might be too complex for most people, so they just quote the 1/3 payout cost without realizing that the $10.5MM they save is pretty close to what it would cost to replace White, and that replacement player would be older with zero growth potential, and might not be a locker room glue guy like White. The team also loses an asset, 25 year old White, and would need to spend assets to replace White, or overpay in the UFA market. Anyone who say's the replacement is already in house probably doesn't understrand that Joseph would be that inhouse replacement. So the team loses Paul and White, and gets Joseph and a 4th, which presents a different issue, people using the White contract to say "good" to that swap, when the assets are already removed by the buyout, so it becomes a double buyout in their thought process without them even realizing it.
It's complex
With so many middle6 forwards, and pieces that can be moved into different spots, people focus on Pinto being White's replacement, when that has already occured, and White was being moved to the wing already, so it's a winger who replaces White. Now this goes against other points already made, which is both true and not true. It's fluid and complex. Not everything is black and white, but when you ask about White's buyout, it's a black and white response, it's a no brainer because it's at 1/3 cost.
I haven't even touched on White being Chabot's best friend, being born on the same day and being drafted together, both in the 1st round of 2015., and how well White is regarded by everyone. He helps keep the locker room loose.
They brought in Joseph to possibly ease the loss of White, but White's contract isn't as bad as some make it out to be, and buying out White is a locker room miss they don't need to make. It's better to trade White than to buy him out.
Formenton, 13 even strength goals in 79 games. He's a 3rd line winger who excels on the PK with 5 SHG. Yes he has potential, but he needs to show it more than once. He gets a raise, but not a huge raise. He'll be given a qualifying offer, and maybe sign a 1 year deal.
Norris is not Svechnikov or Tkachuk, he doesn't bring those intangables. I'd suggest Suzuki, but that contract is high. I think it's a bridge deal like what Elias Pettersson received, but lower. They're not sure what they have, so they may be cautious if they can't get a long term contract for a good dollar amount.
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Armchair-GM
May 15, 2022 at 3:37 a.m.
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Big changes
TOR
2023 7th round pick (OTT)
I'm sure will get something more than this. But I personally think he's not even worth a bag of pucks.
OTT
Holl, Justin
Ottawa has no use for an older version of Josh Brown
Ottawa Defence
Chabot
Zaitsev
Hamonic
Zub
Del Zotto
Holden
Sanderson
Bernard-Docker
Brannstrom
Thomson
Mete qualifying offer not being extended
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Armchair-GM
May 14, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
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Actual Realistic Sens 22-23 Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hogie5</b></div><div>Thoughts on the team/trade bud?</div></div>
Just some random thoughts
I think the Norris contract is high, not that he isn't worth a lot, just that if it gets into that range, they go for a bridge deal instead
I think they can lowball Joseph and Formenton, and they each sign shorter deals. One season of okay production isn't enough to get that much of a raise, They'll want to see it for a larger sample size
I don't think White gets bought out. They can only buyout one player in each buyout period, and they want MDZ gone
The trade is too complex, value wise, so I'm not ofering an opinion on it
The UFA are fine, but I doubt they go after a defenceman unless it's a top3 D, the team has enough 4/5 D
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Armchair-GM
May 13, 2022 at 7:40 p.m.
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Actual Realistic Sens 22-23 Roster
<strong>Too many of you Sens fans are delusional on this website</strong>
You are so correct on this. I haven't read anything beyond that sentence yet, so I hope you aren't either, but I atleast agree with this first sentence, lol
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