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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
Thread: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AJC13</b></div><div>From the trade deadline in 2018 until the 1st or 2nd month at the start of this season, the Rangers I believe let up the most shots on goal by a wide margin. The Rangers D was absolutely horrendous and constantly left Hank and Georgiev out to dry. Most goalies not named Hank would have been broken under such distress. At age 24 (not to be redundant) Georgiev has a lot of upside. Though I'm in agreement that right now he's a level behind Shesterkin, Hart, Jarry, Askarov, etc, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if one day he's at that level.

I would think Georgiev is worth at least two 2nd round picks or at the very least a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Dermott was a 2nd round pick and Kerfoot in trade would probably fetch a 2nd or 3rd round pick. So I think it's a fair trade.</div></div>

The defense was pretty bad last year for your team, I think on average though Georgiev faced 31 shots a game and I bet they were more dangerous chances due to the porous D. My plan with this team would be to make minor moves to see if we can nab Askarov with the first we have and then from there have Georigev back him up in a couple years.

As for Kerfoot, he actually has a better ppg then kapanen (0.51 vs 0.44) over their careers (222gp to 202 gp). I could argue that Kerfoot played with Mackinnon in Colorado and the Kapanen at different time played with Matthews, Tavares so it would wash out the line mates argument. Kapenen is much more speedy with potential of being a good second line player (50 points/season) and Kerfoot is much more complete as a player giving you one of if not the best 3D in the league at that price point. I am not saying Kerfoot is worth a middle first round pick, a former second round prospect and depth players but at minimum he would be a low first to the right team or a high second and a prospect.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread: Offseason
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.
Thread: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AJC13</b></div><div>For a good young goalie with lots of upside, teams would be willing to trade a 1st round pick, or two 2nd's, or a 2nd and a good prospect (like TOR just acquired). As for the "future reference" for me... You (also) left out of the equation that in this years draft a goalie is projected to be drafted in the top 10 - Because the goalie is young and has lots of upside. Though I'm not saying Georgiev's trade value is yet of a top 10 pick.</div></div>

Lol agreed but that goalie, Askarov (who also happens to be in my description at the very top), is expected to be the next Vasilevski or Price (a perennial Vezina trophy candidate). The second best goalie in the draft is a third round pick. There is huge separation between the two. Now I give the Rangers the benefit of doubt that they would hold on to a perennial Vezina trophy winner than trade him. Reality is Georgiev is a good goalie prospect but as of yet, even if he reaches his full potential, he will likely still be the 5-10th best goalie in the league more likely in the 8-12 range. I am aware that I have two firsts and two seconds as well as a few nice prospects and the easy discussion/reply is "we don't need a second anyways I could add it to the trade", but just because you feel you deserve the moon and the stars for your third best goaltender that everyone in the league seems to know is available doesn't mean you will get that. There were literally reports earlier around the trade deadline that the rangers were asking for a high 2nd round pick and a prospect for him and you guys still seem to have him on your roster for a reason. There are about 5 goalies available through trade, UFA or as you mentioned the draft that are better than him this year alone (Murray, Lehner, Askarov, Markstrom and depending on how much you value cup wins Holtby)
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
Thread: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>No he can't, he didn't have a bad year he had his average year. He just isn't good and never really has been. People just think highly of him because once upon a time he was a high draft pick and he hits and blocks shots. He has never offered much beyond standing in front of his own net and in the Leafs system he would be just as bad as Ceci apart from being better at clearing the front. He can't carry the puck, pass or create and offense at all. He's a pylon, hard pass on Larsson is not at all the player we need.</div></div>

Larsson is miscast currently on the oilers, having watched him play, he sucks in the 2-3 spot but should be pretty nice upgrade over Holl who we have in the 4-5 spot depending on how you rank the defenseman above. It also clears nearly 6 million in cap space this year (which is used to sign Piet so the trade is more or less cap space to sign piet, high potential prospect and as per you, a cap dump in exchange for a goalie in his last year, underperforming 2 line winger and a third line winger) and if it doesn't work out by the end of next year, we would have cleared a total of 10 million in cap space.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AJC13</b></div><div>I think you accidentally forgot to add a good player or a good draft pick that you unintentionally left out of the Georgiev trade?</div></div>

I think it may also be goalies don't really get much in trade value and also as future reference for you

Goalie 1: 125 gp 77-26-12 (started 54 games in a season) with avg sv% 0.919
Goalie 2: 77 35-31-7 (started 34 games in a season) with avg sv% 0.913

The first goalie was traded for the 30th and 50th over all picks
The latter is being traded for players that went 34th and 61st over all

The players selected with those picks were
Sam steel:
87gp 12-21-33
Maxime Comtois:
39gp 7-11-18

Dermott:
157gp 9-32-41
Bracco:
Happens to be one of the best point producers in the AHL and wasnt able to crack the right wing on a team with Marner-Nylander-Kapanen down the right side (all of which are 1st liner on another team except kapanen who is a second liner)

The first goalie is Fredrik Anderson
The latter is Georigev
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 16, 2019 at 3:32 a.m.
Thread: tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>This idea of a major glaring hole.... at backup goalie... just kills me. Sparks definitely needs to show some improvement and has some things to work on (and has been). He had a .902 S% and played the second game of all back to backs. Went 8-9-1. He’s 37 games in to his nhl career. Think people really need to pump the brakes here. If he doesn’t show some improvement this season... It’s a backup goalie position. Pretty easy spot to fill in season or at the TDL.

And yes... signs hainsey and trades for larsson... ugh. I’m not saying larsson is horrible but he isn’t great either. It’s no magic cure for the defence. And please let hainsey’s corpse go. Yes he would be okay to play a bottom pair role but do you really think Babs would do that...</div></div>

I think the back up is a glaring hole because we didnt have anyone reliable to take pressure of Anderson. Its not so much that i want someone to play the second game of all back to backs but rather someone to take on 25-30 games a season to allow Anderson to have a break. Not saying Sparks can’t be that person but he just hasn’t proved himself yet.

I think it is kind of cool having hainsey as a bottom pairing option simply because in case of injury, we can put him anywhere in the top 4. Will he be good at it? Probably not. But if he can fill in temporarily it would be a cheap option.

That being said, the leafs defense should look like this by the playoffs:

Rielly-Larsson
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-Liljegren

I am not saying we have 4 Norris candidates on there but Larsson is substantially better than Hainsey, Dermott is better than Zaitsev and the bottom pairing is much much better. We essentially upgrade our defense without really trading away anything major in brown and zaitsev
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 25, 2018 at 12:51 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2018 at 12:58 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>?????. Speaking to Kings fans, they don't think Forbert is good enough to be a dependable NHLer. Because of Trouba's public contract squabbles, he has turned into a Norris candidate.....he's not. And why do you think the Leafs "need to something about their defence". Sure it can be better but it did finish 12th last year in GAA, with almost indentical l numbers to as Cup winners Washington. So the extra year Trouba over Gardiner, what would be the cost? I don't disagree with the trade because of the extra year, but really with those two Dman additions are the Leafs any better?</div></div>

I dont think Trouba is a Norris candidate by any means, i just know that the showing by Hainsey in the playoffs last year was downright pathetic. Also, while the leafs may have tied the capitals in GAA, they also let up a crazy amount more shots. By adding these guys i think we would have defensive D-Men that could really limit shots do Anderson doesnt have to stand on his head. As for Forbort, he is 6’4” more than 210 pounds, averaged 20 mins on a deep LA defensive core and was a +18 (for what its worth) and is signed 2 years at less than 3 million. He is not the next coming of Orr, but he is a dependable defensive guy thats only 26. He and Hainsey should be able to decrease our shots surrendered along with Trouba at the expense of some offense in Gardiner but i think our forwards can more than make up for it plus Zaitsev should rebound and pick up some slack.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2018 at 12:52 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 18, 2018 at 12:11 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2018 at 4:42 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goulet</b></div><div>Some of your numbers are good but seriously, on what planet is Matthews worth almost twice as much as Marner?</div></div>

Thanks! And I know what you mean, but those are the perks of being a Top 10 (Top 5?) player in the league. I do think there will be some hard negotiations with Lou to see if they can get that value closer to 10 million but at the end of the day, whatever he asks for, he will get it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MG1986</b></div><div>Seeing as this thread is looking 2 years into the future, predictions are always tough to make. For starters, I like your top forward line and I think/hope we will see that in future season. Next, I do not believe the Leafs will re-sign JVR. Clearly, you can see from the depth we've built up, his production may never be replaceable, but there are alternative options that give you more speed, grit and defence. Grundstrom and Johnsson are perfect examples are players that can play with speed, skill and grit for a top-9 that can help this team succeed for a full 82-game season and beyond, into playoffs.

If Zaitsev gets traded (which would be a low sell for Leafs at this point), it would be a defenceman of similar salary who has also underperformed. A 1-for-1 deal for a D like Hamonic, Severson, Klefbom all come to mind. I don't think Leafs get any value from a trade other receiving an underperformer D back in hopes that a fresh start might offer a turnaround. One defenceman this might apply most to is Brent Seabrook. It's obviously tremendous speculation but a deal like Zaitsev and Martin for Seabrook plus a swapping of 2018 1st rounders (so Leafs would draft 7th) could be interesting.

Finally, Doughty. My feeling is that one way or another he will remain in California. Whether that means re-signing in LA or signing with the Sharks or Ducks is unclear, but regardless, he will get between $9 and $11 million AAV.</div></div>

Hey, I get your point on JVR but I think they may sign him rather than let him walk for nothing (even though we got him for nothing in Luke Schenn) and If we win a cup within the next 3-4 years, they may trade him afterwards. I don't see anybody on this roster that can score as well as him aside from Matthews and 30+ goals is really hard to replace. I actually proposed the same trade you did for Seabrook in a previous post but then I got to thinking, if we are going to sign someone for 6-7 years at 6 million, and trade Zaitsev away, why not just trade him for picks and have our choice of defensemen. If we can lure a doughty here, its worth more than the first round pick IMO. Last, I am really hoping the Knights destroy the LA kings and next season is crappy for them. Make him want to leave and he would have a chance at a cup for at least the next 5 years with this line up.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>If Zaitsev is worth a first and a third to NJD, why trade him? He has better term than Hamonic. I think you're under paid some of the RFAs, just to fit JVR on the team.</div></div>

Zaitsev in my opinion is worth a late (20-30 overall) first rounder just on the basis he is a right hand shot, young and plays 20 minutes a game. The leafs need more defensive players on the back end. We have loads of offence but not one person (maybe aside from Rielly) who we can look at and say, they can shut down a McDavid or a Crosby or quite frankly any top 50 forward in the NHL. Hamonic provides them with someone who can play those tough minutes. Sign doughty as well and you have the makings of a defensive core that can play defence really well. Last, I don't think I really underpaid any of them. Kapenen has played 55 games in the NHL and has 10 points. Johnsson has 9 games and 3 points. I think I am kind of over paying them based solely on the potential they have. Plus they are very short term contracts so they would get a raise (if they prove they are worth it) when time comes (two years).
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2018 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread: Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Spezza was benched this year. He's really declined. And I believe he spend a lot of time at RW. Leafs would be better just to overpay Bozak Gee, I still remember Spezza as an underaged junior, but he 33 now.
I would prefer Nylander on the wing, but if there no other alternatives next year, Nylander at centre is still good and it still might be his long term position. He could still play the wing on the PP. Marlie Aaltonen has really stepped up and could be a a real contributor at 3rd. maybe 4th centre. Unless the Leafs can fit in all the bonuses at 2017/18, 2018/19 into next years cap, along with Horton's opening day roster inclusion, the Leafs will have to carry over about 4m PF into 2019/20.</div></div>

Hey, I have to agree with JimCarrey. Im not saying Spezza is putting up 50 points but he did...last year and a minimum 60 points for 5 years before that. We are buying extremely low on a centre who has potential to put up 50 points. His linemates this year went from Seguin and Benn to two other players not name Seguin and Benn. Put hime with JVR and Kapenen and I don't think 40 points is out of reach. Plus he provides us with something we don't really have a ton of in depth and experience. Nylander can play centre today if need be IMO but I don't want to split him up cuz there is no need to do it. We have tons of cap space and can easily acquire a 3rd line centre even if it means we over pay (which is really not the case for Spezza considering potential). This way we should maintain three scoring lines without giving up a ton. In fact we upgrade at centre and in the draft at the same time. I know he is over paid but thats the luxury of the contracts we have next year, we can take on the salary and not be hurt short term or long term. As for harmonic, its been a dumpster fire in Calgary and Hamonic is a shut down defensemen at less than 4 million a season for two years. If we can pay 3 million for Hainsey, Id more than be willing to pay 3.8 for Hamonic who is about a decade younger and far better defensively. Again buy low on a very affordable contract for a top 4 Right handed defensemen that can defend, unlike a lot of the current defenders.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JimCarrey</b></div><div>Too much for Hamonic IMO. Anyone looking at him is seriously buying low...I would be willing to give up Leivo and a 2nd. He was suppose to solidify Calgary's backend as one of the best... instead they struggled all year. I know its not all on him, and hes never been a big point producer, but i believe his best days are behind him...</div></div>

Hey, I agree its a lot but I would rather over pay on campsite so Calgary fans don't get their feelings hurt. Realistically, a second and leivo would be perfect. At most toss in the rights to Pickard or Carrick. I think at 27, and a 3.8 cap hit he can crank out 2 more seasons of good hockey, maybe more. He would be an upgrade on Hainsey and Zaitsev who is having a really down year.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1, 2018 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread: Maybe
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22, 2018 at 5:17 p.m.
Thread: Next Year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mapleleafs</b></div><div>you under paid EVERY player you sign! Especially Max Domi and William Nylander.</div></div>

Nylander over the past 2 seasons- 61+52 pts= 113 points
Horvat over the past 2 seasons- 52 + 57 (as per points/game)= 109 points
Pastrnak over the past 2 seasons- 70 + 70= 140

Horvat was signed for 6 years at 5.5 million and Pasternak was signed for 6 years at 6.67 so no I don't think I'm underpaying Nylander. Nylander is also playing with Matthews so I think its a very fair deal.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I really don't understand the Arizona trade at all. In your narration you said Hammer isn't a $4, but a 5-6. Heck the Leafs got lots of those. Don't know why the Leafs need another winger, I would rather a centre, a position of need. We rare very few Domi trades to any other team but Leafs, but it seems to a fascination that Domi becomes a Leaf. Certainly if MacInnes is deemed an NHLer, Really if it wasn't for his father, he would just be a another struggling kid playing in the West.
If RHD Pateryn is any good, he sure will warrant more than 850,000.</div></div>

The leafs do have a lot of 5-6 defensemen but none from what I have seen that can take on 20-22 mins a game if need be. This gives them depth. And the while the centre position would make sense, its not realistic. Its much easier to acquire a higher end winger than a centre and I don't think you get a centre of Nylander's calibre with the assets I gave up to get Domi and Hjalmarsson. Last I did not once say that MacInnis is a sure fire NHLer. I am simply stating the fact that he has played with Bracco, and plays centre. If he ends up being a long term solution as our 4C it works out.