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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: Monahan era is over

A lot of these contracts don't make sense and why are the Flames paying to trade Dube? He's a capable middle 6 forward who isn't expensive...

2 years for Kylington and 1 year for Mang walks them to UFA, that would be terrible asset management.
Johnny should take an 8 year deal if he his staying.
Tkachuk is a wildcard, so, no comment.
Also, the UFAs don't make a ton of sense (other than keeping Gudbranson)

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: The Flames Extend The Key Guys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tripsevs777</b></div><div>No way either of those trades happen, and if Mangiapane is smart he would get a deal somewhere else north of 5M</div></div>

.... why would Mang go somewhere else when he's on one of the best teams in the league and OP has him getting $5.5mx5yrs?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 30 at 10:21 a.m.

Thread: concept

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Both Gaudreau and Tkachuk get $9,500,000 x 8 years. Don't see either taking less from Calgary Gaudreau on the open market easily gets $10,000,000 Gaudreau is on pace for a career year.</div></div>

I think the saving grace for Calgary is that they can offer the extra year which means they won't necessarily have to give Gaudreau $10m. $10m on the open market is equivalent to $8.75m when you go for the total contract. With that said, they will probably both be over $9m like you suggested.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18 at 2:48 p.m.

Thread: Is it possible

Poirier, 22 2nd= Monahan cap dump - NO
Zary, 23 1st, Pelletier= Bert - NO
23 2nd= Namestnikov - Maybe
24 4th= Stecher - Yes

Flames won't need to pay to trade Monahan, not yet at least. He's still serviceable and to say we would need to give a top 10 prospect and a 2nd to move him is just insane. So no, that's not happening.
Bertuzzi is a good player, but I don't think he's worth two top 5 prospects and a 1st. That seems like a massive overpayment especially with only one year left on his contract. Add to that, the Flames are strapped for cap space next season and will need Pelletier (and another rookie) to make the NHL so they can pay Gaudreau and Tkachuk, that's an easy no.
If we move Monahan, we could take Namestnikov.
I think that's fine for Stecher.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18 at 11:51 a.m.

Thread: Team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>I could see a 3rd and Bemstrom.

Anyway we could do CBJ 4th and Bemstrom? Since our 3rd is TBL's, the 4th is only a few spots back of it, and that's a decent chunk of salary to take on...</div></div>

I'd take that as a Flames fan.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18 at 11:48 a.m.

Thread: one more move

Went from Toffoli to Chiarot to Dvorak for Pelletier... Its just not gonna happen, let it go!

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 17 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: CALLE JARNKROK - OFFICIAL TRADE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Sending Ruzicka down over waiving Ritchie would be pretty stupid</div></div>

Even if they did that they wouldn't be compliant in time. Ritchie's cap hit wouldn't come off the books until he clears waivers the next day, while Ruzicka is waiver exempt so his hit comes off right away, so Ruzicka had to go. I hope they call him back up after waiving Ritchie, but I doubt it will happen.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: TDL Cal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>You got to put in perspective the team he is on this year... just like Toffoli who is tearing it up, Chariot is likely to do the same on a better team.</div></div>

Flames had desperately needed a top line RW for years. Fact remains, why pay a 1st + or Pelletier to ruin the chemistry that has been built all season...

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 11:12 a.m.

Thread: All in scenario

A little to high of a price for me, but I could see a trade like that being made to get Hertl.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 11:08 a.m.

Thread: Calgary fun

Come on now, we are trolling with this right?

Not gonna trade Pelletier or a pick to offload Monahan. He's 27 with 1 year left. There will be a team who would pay a 3rd or 4th to take a chance on him and could help a team hit the cap floor. This trade is nonsense.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>Chiarot = 1st + 3rd
Dvorak = Pelltier + monohan + 4th
Switch 2nd to 4th, and it's fair.</div></div>

Flames do not need Chiarot, so why would they pay a 1st +?
Dvorak has been pretty bad this year, so he isn't going to net a top prospect. That's like saying Monahan is worth Harris +

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 16 at 10:55 a.m.

Thread: TDL Cal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>You are so bias it’s ridiculous
Do you think if Gudbranson was on the market he would be worth anything more than a 3rd RD pick ? No, he wouldn’t, while Chiarot price is a 1st RD pick +. He might not get it, but Chiarot is wayyy better than Gudbranson, it’s not even close</div></div>

Gudbranson probably would net a 3rd, I'll give you that, but he's not being moved with how well he's played on the 3rd pair, so we will never know.
The funny part is that you think Chiarot is worth a 1st + because of one playoff run. He's not terrible, but he doesn't crack the Flames lineup with how well the defense are playing. If you want a 1st (or value around there), maybe trade him to a team that needs dmen.

And its not exactly a bias when Gudbranson is playing better than Chiarot in almost every aspect...

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 16 at 10:36 a.m.

Thread: Line up at the end of the season

Selling low on Dvorak and Drouin, but no chance the Flyers or Flames do those deals.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 15 at 3:32 p.m.

Thread: Adding Chiarot

Richardson is making league minimum.... Not exactly a cap dump.

So two top 10 prospects for a 1 year 7th dman... that seems fair /s

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 15 at 2:16 p.m.

Thread: next week

Pens aren't taking Hoffman with out being paid to do so or unless he has rentention.

For the 508th time, Pelletier is not getting moved for a 3rd pair dman with no control.

Is Jake Allen even worth a 2nd right now?

Kulak value is on point. Congrats

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 3:08 p.m.

Thread: Monster Flame Trade

Interesting concept, but the Flames don't need Provorov. I'm guessing Farabee or Atkinson would need to be involved with Konecny since the Flames Top 4 D are set.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 1:54 p.m.

Thread: Might hurt Morale

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JamCam</b></div><div>What's his legitimate trade value right now?</div></div>

Probably a 4th, maybe a 3rd if a team thinks they can revive him. Only 1 year left after this so not a huge commitment.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: 3 Way Deal

From a Calgary point of view, its not a bad move. Maybe take out the 2nd and give Anahiem the 3rd.
They can move Kerfoot in the offseason if they need to free up space.
I would just have Lucic in the line up and scratch Grant.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 9 at 10:45 a.m.

Thread: Might hurt Morale

Was legit talking about this with some buddies a few days ago. If your gonna have Monny on the 4th line, you might as well put him in the AHL and bring up a prospect. Would like to see Pelletier on Backlund-Coleman line, but not a big deal

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8 at 3:15 p.m.

Thread: All In

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hii</b></div><div>He's also older and undersized, we'll see if he stays or is moved but I think he is 5'7 which really impacts his trade value.</div></div>

I mean he's 23, still lots of tread left. There are also other smaller players in the league that have succeeded, so don't love that argument but I get it. I would like to see him get a real chance somewhere

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8 at 3:05 p.m.

Thread: All In

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Drop Phillips and add a 1st instead of a 2nd if you want to be serious.</div></div>

Figured you guys might want a RH winger (since I think you only have one), he's been lighting up the AHL

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8 at 3:04 p.m.

Thread: All In

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hii</b></div><div>They just resigned him, also csick, who do you think is better Engvall or Paul.</div></div>

Ah, missed that. Would have been good to add a big dman

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8 at 2:36 p.m.

Thread: Save the rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>You have Markstrom for the next 5 years - and saying that Chariot is a 7D is bad faith, especially when he buried two against the flame last game.

He is a playoff performer that played 30min per game during the playoffs and nuttered Marner and Matthews, Your defense got exposed by the habs' offense.

re-read the trade carefully - I'm taking a cap dump back - so I let you decide which player would be better to trade.</div></div>

Flames decline easily.
Markstrom for the next 5 Years, but Vladar until 2023. So Wolf will move to back up Markstrom in a year and a half and then eventually share time. So why would the Flames trade a top prospect AND a 1st for a guy who will play 3rd pair at most? I wouldn't put Chiarot ahead of Kylington with how he's been playing. Would you move a top prospect and a 1st for a 3rd pair dman? I doubt it.
Find someone else or take a lot less from the Flames

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 2 at 10:39 a.m.

Thread: Getting Rakell and Chariot and going to sleep after

Hard no from the Flames on both

Gotta be trolling... right?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28 at 10:40 a.m.

Thread: oilers fan does calg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yycofred</b></div><div>I said career. Not 8 years ago. He has one full season left on his contract, you trying to act like it’s two shows how insecure you are in your notion that he’s worth Pelletier and a 1st when Jack Eichel wasn’t worth that to the Flames brass. If that’s what a Canucks GM expects he can stay a top ten scorer on a non playoff team until his contract runs out, that’s probably fine around the league.</div></div>

Montreal and Toffoli all over again... Let them get there hopes up

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 10:54 a.m.

Thread: Maybe

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Sharks accept. Monahan Zary and the pick get it done IMO.

I really like Zary.</div></div>

First Sharks fan that has liked a Hertl trade (that I've seen). I think its good value for the Sharks, but don't know if GMBT will pull the trigger on a rental having to move Zary. I would personally do it.

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