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swinny

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Forum: Armchair-GMApr 20 at 11:37
Thread: Now I wonder
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bdawwwgy1</b></div><div>That would be a move we look back on in 5 years and go "man, how stupid was new york to do that?"

Palat isn't worth a lotto first even IF tampa wasn't cash strapped. You could have them dump Killorn off to you for like a 3rd or something instead, or just play Kravstov/UFA there. Rangers are probably still a year, maybe 2 from seriously conpeting</div></div>

Avoiding the UFA market for 2 reasons

1. Leaving room for RFA signings

2. Assuming Alexis, Kaako and Kravstov improve their game over the year and hopefully slide into the roll in 21-22

So, where I thought about a guy like Killorn, the term was something I would want to avoid to leave room to sign the younguns when that time comes.

Giving up a lotto pick in a shallow draft, lightly scouted draft class is not a big gamble imo. Maybe Tampa takes a 2022 2nd, but, someone will ante a 1st I think.

As for the window. Yes. Your right. But let the kids learn how to win.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 19 at 12:02
Thread: Yeah they are alright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>moving a 22 year old should never mean rebuild...so if TOR or EDM moved their 1C at 22 it wouldn't have meant start over?

Clearly that's nonsense.
They lost their best piece and their only real center. He kept it together.
On top of it it's not just about Laine and PLD. They lost Anderson too. They moved Savard and Foligno out.
They aren't taking in some middle 6 center. That's just pure BS and you know it.
Stop trying to defend it.
They are a team in rebuild.</div></div>

We'll see when Foligno resigns in Comumbus I guess.

Anderson? A deal the Habs won, but at the time a lateral move to Domi with bonus pick. Not many GMs would say no to that..... and it seemed both player and team felt it was time to move on.

If anything, Kekalainen has proven bold and agressive. I don't buy he is hunkering for a full on rebuild - see Panarin and Bobrovsky. The guy doubled down.

I see an offseason of opportunity, where one of the league's best GMs (and he is), goes for it if it presents itself.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 18 at 10:19
Thread: Yeah they are alright
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>none of this is even remotely true.
Laine is a snipper. He's not a playmaker, he's not a center able to control play etc... He's a snipper. He needs other people on the ice to help him get there.
But CBJ doesn't have anyone capable of doing that. They don't have 1 legit 1 or 2 C on the whole team right now. Those are just facts.

That in the end is what drives the rebuild. Has nothing to do with Laine. Even if Laine Scored 40 goals, they would still have the same problems and still not be a good team.
You don't build teams off the wing. Everyone knows this. It's why C is where the best players in the league are. It's why teams that are playoff bound tend to be strong at C.
PIT - Crosby and Malkin
NYI - Barzal
BOS Bergeron
WSH Backstrom
TOR Mathews - JT
EDM McDavid, Drai
WPG - PLD, PS
MTL - JK, NS
FL Barkov
TB Point
CAR - Svechnikov
COL MacKinnon

I mean really you got one team in VGK who is a legit contender that isn't really particularly strong down the middle.
Everyone else that has any shot of winning anything is.
So this idea that CBJs problems are caused from Laine, or that his bad play is the issue holding the team back is just pure BS.

Truth is, CBJ got the exact same Laine that WPG had. Good shot, not a playmaker, doesn't play strong defense.
That's been him since day one.

If you want to see Laine be a 40 goal scorer again, he needs help to get there. CBJ doesn't have the help to give him.
So the rebuild has to take place as they don't have the pieces needed to be competitive. Honestly, I hope they do trade Laine at some point here for a killing. Because they need that going forward.
But it's not some older player, it's 1st round picks and good prospects.</div></div>

Not disagreeing here, but Roslovic seems to have found his mojo as a Jacket, and Monahan would give a very good secondary option..... when we speak about centres.

Still, if Laine come in and scores 30 (shortened season), Jackets win more games and remain in the hunt.

If anyone is arguing that trading Dubois ushered in a rebuild, I might laugh. Maybe it exposed a real issue in Columbus, but moving a 22 year old should never mean rebuild.

So yes. Laine is a bust as a Jacket. They need to move him, and recoup (all they will do here) the loss. Or, they male a bold move for another centre in hopes of balancing offense.

It a crossroads.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 18 at 5:09
Thread: The Whats Next Reset
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ItWasIn</b></div><div>I think one of Gaudreau and Monahan will be moved in the summer, maybe both.

I don't think the returns for either would be very impressive, I think Gaudreau would have more interest than Monahan though.

For Gaudreau, I think it would be something like the Hall from NJ to ARI deal. 1st and 3rd as well as a pair of decent prospects. Lots of Flames fans would be disappointed, but I think that is about what we can expect.
With Monahan I'd kind of look at the Duchene from OTT to CBJ deal. 1st and a pair of decent prospects.

It doesn't make the Flames necessarily any better, but at LW they can go Tkachuk and Mangiapane in their top 6 and at C they can go Lindholm and Backlund down the middle, while stocking up on some futures. I think it would be a mistake for the Flames to look for "hockey deals", because they aren't getting an equal talent to Gaudreau and you're just holding off the inevitable, which is stockpiling picks because I do think the Flames are very close to being a team that needs a rebuild.</div></div>

You could very well be right.

The Devils are deep down the middle which may allow them to make a deal as proposed, but, the same deal.could be made for a 1st, Merkley and Boquist idea.

For me moving foward, Tkachuk and Lindholm have been great. Dube as all sorts of potential. In the system.... Emilio Petterson could turn out to be a steal, while guys like Prosipil and Ruzsika look to form a decent 4th line (maybe 3rd). The 2nd line has misfired for 3 years. Clear some space. Fill some gaps..... but the system in Calgary is not great overall. Lacks D depth and tending.

Moving Monahan, I had that idea. Now, as it's been pointed out, my ask was mybe lofty, but still, a 1st with a solid prospect (circle back to Bemström or Loudy) certainly fits the bill.

Backlund as a 2nd line centre is solid enough if the RW is filled out with a short term solution allowing sheltered minutes down the line.

Something as to give. This team on paper is good. On the ice - the chemistry is terrible.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 18 at 4:03
Thread: The Whats Next Reset
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>They would rather have Zacha or a 1st?



Boqvist needs a change of scenery for sure. Too much skill and speed not to produce. I am guessing he gets moved this off-season.

Zacha is a strange one. When he plays wing, he produces like a top-line wing (for the Devils, at least). But when he plays 2C or 3C the scoring goes down considerably. Hard to read how other teams would view him (as top-6 winger or as middle-six Center).</div></div>

Yes.... I have noticed Zacha's production on the wing as well. Maybe that is where he belongs🤷‍♂️. If that's the case, Gaudreau is unnecessary really. A line of Zacha-Hughes-Bratt would look good. Moving the focus to secondary scoring- which comes at a lesser cost.

Boquist absolutely needs a change. Not sure if I see him as a top 6 forward (as I elduded to), but a 3rd liner at 40 points I think is in him. Clearly that isn't happening in Jersey.....

Thanks for the feedback though!
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 18 at 3:57
Thread: The Whats Next Reset
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>I’d rather not move tex out for Sean. I think tex has the upside to be as good as Monahan with the right players. He looks like a stud in spurts of a few games on top of the world and a few where he looks lost. If he can find that consistency he’ll be an impact player in this league. We should nurture that instead of bringing someone in for a few years as a stop gap. I could see a guy like foudy being moved out. A guy who has that upside but hasent shown it in this league yet.</div></div>

Solid feedback - and I agree with your assesment.... why I wanted him lol.

The Jackets are at a crossroads imo. If the plunge into a retool (there is enough there to call it that), I suspect they move Laine and call it a mulligan. If he stays, I do wonder if they dive into finding anityer centre.

Arguements for both side there.

Once again, great feedback and appreciate it.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 18 at 12:22
Thread: The Whats Next Reset
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>flamesfan</b></div><div>Both those trades are terrible for calgary. It’s crazy how terrible those trades are. The flames easily decline both and block both teams numbers. Both those trades are pure trash. It doesn’t even come remotely close to getting either of gaudreau or monahan. Flames very very very very easily decline. But the gaudreau trade is extremely terrible for calgary, it is crazy how far off that trade is, the flames laugh so hard when they get offered that gaudreau trade.</div></div>

I disagree..... Zacha is 2nd line material. Texier and Bemström have all sorts of top 6 potential.

Do you think you're getting a big shiny name like Byfield for Monahan? His production has dropped 2 years running.

Gaudreau's playoff performances are legendary.

If the Flames wanna win, you have to male a change. What is there isn't working. If you think it is, you are in denial.