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Armchair-GM
Sep. 27, 2019 at 2:18 p.m.
Thread:
Drouin and Ehlers reunited and it feels soooo good wlines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wpgman</b></div><div>Copied from TSN
"Assets Has outstanding vision, creativity and playmaking acumen. His puck skills are off-the-charts good, and he can rack up impressive point totals (especially assists). Can play any forward position in the NHL.
Flaws Is somewhat undersized (5-11, 188 pounds) for the NHL game, so he must gain more strength and prove he can handle the physical rigors of the highest level. Also needs to work on his defense.
Career potential Supremely talented playmaker with upside."
The right coach and maybe he will fit very well</div></div>
Anybody seen this side of Drouin ? Not saying the guy is a plug but this doesn't reflect the Drouin that I've seen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 20, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.
Thread:
Tkachuk Compared to Gronkowski
6,969,696.......Nice
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 20, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread:
No Trade Flames
Not a Calgary fan but doesn't seem like the team or the player would want a 1YR Deal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2019 at 10:38 a.m.
Thread:
Screwed now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>I like Kyle Connor but he's quickly becoming pretty overrated on here.</div></div>
I agree. He should get more like Duchene money not Mark Stone money.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.
Thread:
Screwed now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Neither of them are worth that at this point and Connor will never be worth that.</div></div>
I'd rather have Conner at that price than Laine.
always like a guy that can create his own offence and play well defensively over a guy that has is a liability if he isn't scoring.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2019 at 10:29 a.m.
Thread:
Marner signs and the other teams are screwed
Lol Beat me to it by a few seconds eh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 11, 2019 at 8:51 p.m.
Thread:
Take it or be traded
Dubas won't trade him. He'll use his Air Canada Miles to send him to Switzerland himself.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 4, 2019 at 10:47 p.m.
Thread:
Cant Please Everyone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>So basing everything in hockey on goals Ovechkin is better than Crosby? Awesome solid take. Man Ovechkin is a top 5 all time player also.....: goof?</div></div>
The Goals at even strength was to show Matthews value and hey over the last 15 years in the league Id say Ovi is a top 5 player and has carried the Caps since he was drafted.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 4, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.
Thread:
Cant Please Everyone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Bc Matthews isn’t worth Matthews money. If they didn’t overpay Matthews then marner wouldn’t feel entitled to more money.... I mean for god sake Matthews is 24 % less productive than McDavid his first 3 years and got 870k$ less than him. He’s so overpaid that it’s laughable. Now try to convince a kid that’s been there and played better to take less money? Bc that’s what they are trying to do. Marner is a hometown kid that is of similar talent to Matthews but is being told he’s worth 2-3 million less ? Explain to me why he isn’t insulated.
Imo
Matthews 9.5
Marner 9-9.5
Tavares was a ufa his price is high but fair
Nylander 6m
Kap and aj are good deals</div></div>
Most even strength goals over that last 3 years. Look up the stats. come back to apologize when you have.
That being said Matthews had all the negotiating power and leafs gave him a blank cheque. but don't come around here saying that Matthews is only worth 9.5 long term lol you goof
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 4, 2019 at 8:15 p.m.
Thread:
Seeing all these Leafs fans try and get Marner under 10M is cute
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Johnjohn</b></div><div>Clayton Keller just signed for over 7 million so I think that would make Mitch worth about 11 million. If leafs fans think he is signing anything under 10 million for 5 or 6 years they are delusional. I have see post here saying he is worth only 7 million max. Clayton Keller at over 7 millions proves how stupid these people really are</div></div>
Am I the only one remembering that the leafs have already offered Marner 11m x 8yrs ? which I think most leafs fans would be happy with.
Can we agree that everyone should stop saying " Leafs and their fans don't want to pay Marner what he is worth"
Making him the second highest paid winger is apparently the worst thing a team could offer.
If marner wants 5 years thats 9m. Still a top 10 paid winger in the league on a 5 year deal somehow upsets Marner's camp? well there are some people in the world you just can't please.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 4, 2019 at 8:06 p.m.
Thread:
Blackhawks RFAs after the Keller Contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>Keller contact DEFINATELY helps RFAs leverage .. zero doubt about it .. I concerned Point on Tampa closer to 10M now than 8M</div></div>
When did you think Point would have signed for 8M? lol
Surely you weren't thinking of a long term deal at that price for him
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 30, 2019 at 8:32 p.m.
Thread:
IF SOMEONE PUTS HARPUR IN THE ROSTER 1 MORE TIME I WILL GO CRAZY
I agree with that... can we also agree that with Marincin?
This guy is garbage.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:28 p.m.
Thread:
Short term risk for Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Totally, Ferris is a clown</div></div>
Honestly he is just trying his best to get his client the most amount of money in the long run.
Its just his transparently low blow tactics that is upsetting most of the Toronto fans.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:20 p.m.
Thread:
Short term risk for Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>If Nylander, who is the other high end RW on the team outscores him (I don't think its impossible, I think it is almost a guarantee to happen at 5v5), would that not mean he is the direct comparable on the team? How can Marner demand an elite centre status money level if there is a better winger on the team? Not saying Nylander is better but I think they are way closer to even than Matthews and Marner.</div></div>
Logically if that happens he couldn't... but as we have seen from Marner's camp, logic isn't really a negotiating tactic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.
Thread:
Short term risk for Marner
Gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Still the highest AAV for a bridge deal if I recall
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 21, 2019 at 10:45 a.m.
Thread:
What IF Marner doesnt play a year
Logically Marner for his own wants must sign before the season starts....
If he doesn't he will get less and less money as the season goes on and if he doesn't want that (because who would) he is going to play a year in the Swiss league ?
Where the max contract is half of the minimum contract in the NHL and close to 9 million less than what he is being offered?
Marner's agent is losing his leverage day by day and this call to the Swiss league is just a desperate man trying his last few terrible negotiation tactics.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 15, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.
Thread:
Marner Doesnt Owe Toronto Anything
Leafs fans agree that Marner is a premier talent.... Kane with three cups got 10.5.... Kuch gets 9.5x8 with 120 points and leafs owe Marner with 94 points over 10x3 ?
I might not be good at Math but that doesn't seem to add up.
He doesn't owe Toronto a discount but market value looks like its around 9.5x5 doesn't it?
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
Leafs have offered him 10-11mil at 7 years... is that not fair ? I don't think you can say they don't want to pay him with that report. he'd be the 2nd highest paid winger in the league, assuming it was over10.5
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
Aug. 15, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
Thread:
Contract Controversy
To be fair to everyone I was tagged in this and am viewing this after I got back from the bar so I haven't read all three pages attached to this post so I apologize if I am repeating things people have already said.... This is how I see it,
1. Nylander asked for 8.5 and Dubas countered with 6.25.... they settled for 7mil. If Nylander with Matthews as his centre can't create value at 7mil leafs should trade him straight up. I agree he should get a fresh start this year that lasts until mid december, can't cut it then you should move him.
2. They gave Matthews a blank cheque... straight up. not saying thats bad not saying its good.
3. Marner's camp is trying to get as much as they can out of the leafs by throwing out crazy values that they think he is worth. I believe they will come back to earth and sign a 6 year deal around 9.5mil or a 2 year deal thats being reported around 8 mil.
I think whats throwing everyone off is Marner's agent saying he is worth mcDavid money. I think the league has shown no one wants to pay him that... as there haven't been any offer sheets as the Marner camp was expecting.
The only leaf that has taken a discount is Tavares as he was reportingly offered more than 13mil a year by San Jose when he hit free agency.
Thats just my 2 cents. have a good night everyone. I know I already am.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 12, 2019 at 8:17 p.m.
Thread:
Mitchy signs the dotted line
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grantedspace96</b></div><div>Mitch already declined this offer. He wants 10x3</div></div>
And Nylander wanted 8.5m
People tend to forget that Nylander's camp came down 1.5 mil and Dubas only conceded .75m over his original offer at 6.25
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 7, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
Thread:
Rantanen contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>I doubt it's all the same people, marner deserves a good deal like the rest of them... I think that's a very good deal, marner deserves around the same but his dad thinks he should get a Matthew's deal</div></div>
You're probably right. I guess with the media we get more Leaf's exposure. Id be mored scared if I was a Vancouver or Calgary fan if I'm honest. At least the leafs have put aside close to 10m for Marner, while those teams have as a comparable much less to sign their RFAs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 7, 2019 at 1:20 p.m.
Thread:
Rantanen contract
I love how wide open people view this class of RFA " Marner deserves 3 x10mil and nothing less..... oh Mikko yeah just give him less than 9 mil on a 7 year deal and Aho got overpaid with 8.5"
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 7, 2019 at 1:18 p.m.
Thread:
Rantanen contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Johnjohn</b></div><div>Missing time and sitting out for the year is 2 totally different things. Nylander ended up get 10 million last year for calling dubas bluff</div></div>
With signing bonuses it goes without saying that Nylander got paid. But his cap hit was only 10 million because it was prorated. The cap hit doesn't reflect the actual salary if it starts during the year. Hence why Vegas' player Jimmy Schuldt signed his 925,000 contract but it was at the end of the year and got prorated to 6,567,500 on cap friendly.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:41 p.m.
Thread:
Marners camp has lost its mind
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Agreed but something has to give - one of marner/nylander should be traded for D IMO</div></div>
Agree with you there as well
*cough* Nylander *cough*
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:38 p.m.
Thread:
Marners camp has lost its mind
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>The thing is leafs fans (not all) have unrealistic expectations. They want to be able to keep Matthews, nylander, and marner at reasonable cap hits after giving Tavares 11 mill - and acquire a top 4 defenseman by trading bracco and a 2nd.</div></div>
I'd agree with that assessment lol
But i'll take Tavares and cap issues over no Tavares any day
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2019 at 10:27 p.m.
Thread:
Marners camp has lost its mind
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>You are correct - I agree, even Chiarelli was able to lock up McDavid to 8 years at a reasonable cap hit. If McDavid hit free agency in 3-4 years he would get 15 mill lol</div></div>
Luckily for the Oilers McDavid didn't see the tire fire when he signed his contract. He made everyone else in the league go " Oh I don't want to be stuck" lol
But I agree, Leaf's handed Matthews a blank cheque.
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