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Armchair-GM
May 25, 2021 at 2:08 p.m.
Thread:
Shopping spree
I think Edmonton should definitely consider moving a 1st for help now. I don't think Debrusk is worth it though.
Maybe for a 2nd + prospect
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Armchair-GM
May 25, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
Thread:
If Barkov hits FA
The bidding would start at 11m as a low ball
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Armchair-GM
May 25, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
Thread:
Big Off Season
I do think the Oilers are going to be active in free agency, but those deals for Coleman, Larsson, RNH, are not gonna get it done.
Edmonton isn't the most attractive destination so you're gonna have to be amongst the highest bid.
At least 4x4 for Coleman
Larsson will get 4-5m x 4 years
RNH gets 6-7m
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Armchair-GM
May 25, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread:
Sabres 21-22
Tough sell getting Foligno to sign with Buffalo.
I think its either CLB or Toronto
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Armchair-GM
May 16, 2021 at 9:11 p.m.
Thread:
2021-22
My feedback would be:
1) Hyman will get a lot more than 4x4. Think closer to 5M x 5 or 6 years, give or take.
2) Agree on Foligno. Likely gonna need to get closer to 3m x 2 to get him to sign. Columbus will offer him a deal to come back and they have $.
3) Jumbo is done after this year.
4) I like Bogo, but the way he has played this year he will find a team where he is basically guaranteed a 3rd pairing spot. He won't sign to be a 7th D
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Armchair-GM
May 16, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
Thread:
Offers on Rielly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Toronto fans need someone to hate and it's always going to be a skilled player who doesn't hit a tonne.
Rielly isn't a franchise d man or stud number 1.
But he is more than a top 4 here's an undisputed first pairing defenseman and would be the number 1 defenseman on many teams.
First off he's a minute eater. That's a skill.
Offensively he's one of the best in the league. He's 9th in points by a dman the least 3 years
And it's but just being a pp qb he's 4th in even strength pts
He can play in all situations. He's a smooth skater who can play all situations. And until this year he's done it with either scrubs or a very old Haibsey
Is he a stud defensively? No. But he's not bad or a liability.</div></div>
Relax dude. I'm not hating on Rielly.
He is a good player, but he is coming to the end of his deal and with the emergence of Sandin it looks unlikely we are going to offer him 7+ mill on a long term deal.
He has had a pretty rough year defensively though. I would say he is a bit of a liability.
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Armchair-GM
May 15, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
Thread:
Offers on Rielly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marnerizov</b></div><div>I think a lot of people on here wouldn't offer a lot for Rielly. Some probably wouldn't even want him and that's fair. Rielly has been underwhelming, to say the least.
But in reality, I think Rielly could probably bring in a first, a roster player and a prospect (probably a B- or A- depending on the quality of the pick)
I know that price seems steep and a lot of people may not agree but, realistic, this type of offer is what Morgan Rielly is capable of bringing in. Especially if there's interest from a few teams.</div></div>
I definitely think there is a market for him. Top 4 offensive D that can play big minutes. I agree he could get a first + a player. Something like that.
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Armchair-GM
May 15, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
Offers on Rielly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pete</b></div><div>Don't think Reilly is leavin' but IF then trade him to Seattle for picks.</div></div>
Not saying he is. I'm just curious what the market is generally.
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NHL Signings
May 15, 2021 at 7:59 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Artem Zub (2 Years / $2,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>The money is fine but the term is bad. Should have been 4 years
as
Holl (3x2mill)
Walker (4x2.65mill)</div></div>
I wouldn't say the term is bad. They have a lot of up and coming D. I think they would rather a 2 year deal and then reevaluate rather than over commit to the wrong player.
Brannstrom, Sanderson, Bernard-Docker, Thomson, etc...
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NHL Signings
May 15, 2021 at 7:38 p.m.
Thread:
Ottawa Senators signed Artem Zub (2 Years / $2,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>I would have signed him for 3 seasons but this is fine.</div></div>
They have a lot of young up and coming D. They likely don't want to commit past 2 seasons.
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Armchair-GM
May 13, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
Thread:
Colorado
Doesn't Colorado have to protect Erik Johnson because of his no movement clause?
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Armchair-GM
May 11, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
Thread:
Where each team stands on Eichel per The Athletic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alpine4life</b></div><div>Ottawa has played for .660 in the second half of the season and with Eichel would seriously be a contending team next year...
Unfortunatelly they dont have assets assets to go after Eichel and still be as powerful</div></div>
Not sure where you get .660 at any point, but you're right that they have improved and look promising going forward
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Armchair-GM
May 11, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
Thread:
Does Nuge want to live in Edm or Van
The team looks a lot deeper injury free and with Nuge and Miller on 3C.
Nuge gets more term and $.
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Armchair-GM
May 11, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
Thread:
What would Reinhart cost
I think Buffalo is going to be looking for higher quality assets.
Steel, Tracey, Mahura are all kinda 2nd or 3rd tier pieces.
I'd want at least one piece that is higher quality.
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Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>The deal doesn't have to be cap in, cap out in the off-season. Teams are allowed to go 10% over the upper limit of the cap in the off-season. Vegas could make a deal for Eichel without Tuch, and then make a deal with another team sometime in the off-season to be cap compliant. As long as they're under the cap by the first game of the regular season, they're fine.
Buffalo won't retain. You can argue there aren't many teams that can afford his cap hit, sure. To which Buffalo comes back with there aren't any players at all like Eichel that are available. Doesn't matter about his cap hit, if you want a player like him then you make the cap work yourself. That's not Buffalo's problem. In a pandemic world where it's a flat cap and money doesn't flow as easy, teams aren't gonna be retaining as much and especially not for that length. You want Eichel, you know what you're getting in cap so you make it work or you don't get him.
With how disgruntled Eichel is, everyone basically knows how it's coming to an end. It will lower the price and if it comes to 1 of Krebs or Glass, Vegas will say they can have Glas but not Krebs. Vegas is doing just fine without Eichel, they don't need to give up a cost controlled A prospect for a guy that they're already winning without. That being said, Glass is a good consolation player and better all around than Krebs. And don't scoff at Hague being included in my idea. He's already capable of playing top 4 minutes at such a young age, and he's a big body that's only getting better. He's been raves about for his leadership ability too. I'd argue he's Vegas' best young player anyways so they're giving up they're best prospect/young player already.</div></div>
And you very well might be right about that, but Vegas could say the same thing. Don't want to retain to get this package? Ok cool. Have fun trading Eichel for Chytil, Kakko, and a 1st.
Maybe its not 2mill either, could be less, but Buffalo has pretty low leverage considering the player they are trading.
And yes I agree, doesn't necessarily have to be money in money out. Tuch I just thought was good because he adds value to the trade and subtracts cap, but if you could trade Rielly Smith to someone else that might be better.
Ultimately I agree with you, but I don't think its out of the question
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>Maybe, guess we’ll have to wait and see cause it seems like the writing is on the wall for Eichel and the Sabres now.</div></div>
Thats kinda why I don't think retention is out of the question. Of course Sabres would rather not retain $, but I think their goal is going to be to get the most quality assets possible rather than worry about salary when they aren't even in contention or close to the cap for 3+ years.
The big stress point though is that he kinda HAS to be traded
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Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>Buffalo won't be retaining on Eichel. The talks stop there if it's even brought up. But I think Glass as a natural centre would be the centre piece in a deal. Vegas is high on Krebs, I doubt they include him in the deal. I also don't think they would include Tuch because he played with Eichel in his draft year for the USNDP and went from a third line, mid round prospect to a top line, first round pick. Vegas would likely wanna try that again.
I'd centre the deal around Glass, Hague, and a 2022 1st to start. Then go from there</div></div>
Hard to make the salary come even close to working without Tuch.
Vegas likes Krebs sure, but if they are making a push for Jack Eichel you have to make sacrifices.
I personally don't think they hang up the phone on retention. There aren't enough teams who can take on 10 million that easily. The offer is 5 legit assets for one so the retention seems reasonable to me
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Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:26 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>treemos27</b></div><div>They would if the return was 5 strong assets. Competitiveness of the offer + salary restraints you may just have to take the hit.
Leafs retained 1.2m on Kessel when he was traded.</div></div>
And that retention was 6 years
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>But they wouldn’t retain for 5 years.</div></div>
They would if the return was 5 strong assets. Competitiveness of the offer + salary restraints you may just have to take the hit.
Leafs retained 1.2m on Kessel when he was traded.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
Thread:
Legit offer for Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>I think you lost when you added retention.</div></div>
Might have to happen.
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Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
Thread:
Tkachuk for Laf
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>now do you believe Matthews would be a 50g 90+point guy playing in AZ or does he directly benefit from the players surrounding him... like playing with Marner</div></div>
Of course Marner helps, two good players that have chemistry/synergy and make each other better, but if you watch Matthews, you realize that he scores with whoever he plays with and in so many different ways. He is also and underrated playmaker and his assist totals are severely deflated because his linemates don't score at a high clip.
Even in Arizona, I would wager Matthews is still an 85-100 point guy playing with Keller, Garland, etc...
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Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 9:43 a.m.
Thread:
My game 1 prediction with injuries coming back
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan416</b></div><div>No chance Joe isn’t in the lineup, especially opening night of the playoffs. My guess would be:
Hyman Matthews Marner
Foligno Tavares Marner
Mikheyev Nash Simmonds
Thornton Kerfoot Spezza</div></div>
I don't know how you can just slot in Nash as 3C.. Also no chance Gally is a scratch after the way he has played
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 9:41 a.m.
Thread:
My game 1 prediction with injuries coming back
I tend to agree with this.
Keep Gally where he has been doing well.
I think Hyman and Foligno eventually get switched.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread:
Whats Glasss value at
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>treemos27</b></div><div>Thats a lot of pieces. I think Vegas declines. Too much youth there to give up.
I like the idea though. Very creative.</div></div>
To be clear I don't think NYR would be interested either. They are ready to compete, this trade makes them worse in the short term.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.
Thread:
Whats Glasss value at
Thats a lot of pieces. I think Vegas declines. Too much youth there to give up.
I like the idea though. Very creative.
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