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Forum: Fauteuil - DG4 hours ago
Thread: Kent resetififif
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kingduplateau</b></div><div>I think you more "acurate" from LA perspective.
I try to move Gally so i guess what could make a bit of sense.
Gally want out of Mtl so is NTC is no problem if its LA
Bergevin not GM in LA but best friend of Robitaille and Pat Brisson, he will push for Gally...but Blake will block him normaly...will cost is job eventualy, even if its is the rigth décision.
This year Gally and other Habs stat are not accurate.
But its true that Gally is on decline and if im Blake i dont want him at 6.5 .
Arvidson at 4 is ok but still not a fan, if i have Gally at the same price, i take a chance.
If not LA , a team will take him, surely with salary retain in some deal.</div></div>

Rob Blake has the reigns of the team, and he worked tirelessly and put the Kings out of contention for 3 years to get the team younger and cheaper. He has relieved Mike Futa and Jeff Solomon to make his own inner circle which will include Bergevin, but I believe that was to help his trade ability not to get Gallagher, but Chychrun.

Gallagher might return to being a 30 goal scorer, but I think the Kings and Habs are bad trade partners for this one. If you even look at cap space, Byfield and Turcotte's contracts will kick in just as Kopitar and Arvidsson get off the books and Danaults NTC expires. The team has purposely been built to slowly transition the old group to the young one. If the Kings cup window was now, maybe I'd agree with you, but I see it closer to two or three years from now, which is when I imagine Gallaghers contract will have a negative value.

I think Gally's true trade value might be up to him, if he waives his NTC, than the Habs have some options. If he selects 5 teams with little to no cap space, and one real destination he has handcuffed the team.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 hours ago
Thread: Kent resetififif
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kingduplateau</b></div><div>Understand your point...
Still think he bring more than arvidson, and dont forget that Bergevin was in tears when he sign Gally.
Maybe a deal with phoenix that retain some cap and Mtl give draft pick.
I dont want Arvidson, i moving him to...just want some cap space</div></div>

Gally has a 6 team NTC and is metrics wise having the worst season of his career, which is really worrying considering Montreal has been chasing the lead most games. To me and a lot of other teams may look like a decline for a small stature player. That’s a long contract to see a decline so early. Meanwhile Arvidsson is already beating his last seasons stats and still has a friendly contract.

Bergevin is not the GM and he’s decent at trading, he understands that whatever team Gally wants to go to can dictate a price, they just have to wait until he requests a trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 6:21 p.m.
Thread: Gallagher to LA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>If you get deleted is probably because you didn't read the rules. Don't diss the moderator, they do a good job.

Habs are not retaining on Gally if they trade him. I believe they rather keep MTL fan favorite and soul of the team instead of trading him retained and for some scraps. BTW pretty sure this season is an outlier. Shorten offseason and all. They will all be back stronger soon.</div></div>

The issue is twofold for the Habs, are Gallagher's best years behind him and if he does return to being great do you see him being a 30 goal scorer when he's 33-34 when the Habs are likely to compete again?

For a team trying to acquire him, his value is the lowest of his entire career, he likely doesn't fit the Habs plans long-term, and has a 6-team NMC so he can dictate a cheap price where ever he goes.

If the habs want to jump-start a rebuild and move on from Gallagher the Kings are a good trade partner, but only if they are willing to take a big chunk of that salary. This post (I'm guessing) was to address the dozens of Habs ACGMs that have come in the last week indicating that the Kings might move a blue-chip prospect and high picks to obtain Gally. I think it's a fair response to show how far apart our teams are on wanting to obtain him.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 12:37 p.m.
Thread: Trying to trade Gallagher Want to hear your opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Minimont</b></div><div>I mean the fans might not want him, but maybe the kings want him just a theory</div></div>

A theory founded in what though? Like I've seen this posted several times and the only logic I hear is that Bergevin really likes Gallagher? Bergevin is (1) not in charge of the Kings and (2) doesn't tend to make bad trades. If he were to help Blake trade for him, he'd illustrate that in every metric Gally is on the decline for the season and on-track to score as many goals as Kings 4th liners, additionally his no trade clause allows him to dictate which team he would prefer even further lowering his value. Unless 40%+ is retained on Gallagher, I don't see why the Kings couldn't use that cap space to acquire a better player on a better contract without losing assets in the free agency next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 1:55 p.m.
Thread: My big rebuilt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Bergevin could convince Blake to go after Gallagher and there’s not only points. We all know it’s never been about points for Gallagher but grit &amp; heart. Plus he can score goals. Giroux Gaudreau Forsberg Kadri are all 8M+ players, Rackell Kessel Carter aren’t better than Gallagher. Riley Smith &amp; Perron are better targets but again, there’s gonna be a lot of team after them. Nichushkin probably stays in COL. You want have any grittier players than Gallagher in the ones you named. Like I said, I understand you don’t like it but it is a possibility</div></div>

I think you are entitled to your opinion, sure. Gallagher is an excellent player who is in a slump but could easily return to form in better surroundings. Yes, he has past chemistry with Danault, He is a heart and soul player for sure.

But the fit isn't there for several reasons.

1. Danault is not struggling without Gallagher and has quickly adapted to the Kings defense-first mentality. It is Gallagher who is struggling with the Habs, and unless he turns it around his value is rock bottom. This is not just his scoring, almost every recordable stat is struggling and that is a big deal.
2. If Bergevin is involved he knows how to get the best in a trade, I think he'd suggest that the Habs retain in order to facilitate a trade, which I don't think they will.
3. Blake's rebuild was to make the team younger, faster, and stronger. This team is being built with the same large heavy-hitting but with speed for once. I think Gallagher's size will be an issue if his skill is on the decline.
4. Replacing Brown is much harder than finding a heart and soul player, Brown leads the league in career hits, has played with Kopitar almost his entire career, and wore the C when the Kings won two cups. The belief is that our next Brown might be in Vilardi or Turcotte. But in the interim, those are hard shoes to fill.
5. I think you have to admit that California is not only a good destination for players families, but the team is major market, and a robust prospect pool to make LA a potential long-term destination for players. This will be a preferred free agency destination as it has been when the Kings were competitive.

You might be right, there may be a way he comes here, but I frankly see no way Gally comes to LA unless Montreal is taking a big chunk of that salary or he turns it around and proves he is a 30 goal scorer, because right now the Kings 4th liners individually are on track for more goals than him.