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Armchair-GM
18 hours ago
Thread:
Sorry Soup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>I think it’s more about what works best for the sharks than what vlasic’s value is. I dont think he would get more than a vet min tbh, he is scratched constantly so far this year. I would like for the sharks to try and get broberg but i dont think its the most important thing in the world with Muk and Thrun in the wings. Campbell’s contract makes him a nonstarter in terms of a flippable asset until at least two years from now.</div></div>
That's true, also there is a scenario where the Oilers could buyout Vlasic keeping him on both teams books for much longer than two seasons after this one. Probably correct the Sharks are better off with the worse contract than the Oilers because it's for one less year. Like honestly, there are so few options to work for Edmonton here.
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Armchair-GM
19 hours ago
Thread:
Sorry Soup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>Sharks aren’t doing that.
If we didn’t retain half on Karlsson we aren’t retaining half on vlasic. And we aren’t using our last retention slot on vlasic (or any other long term contract)</div></div>
Vlasic and Karlsson although paid similarly are players who have had very different turns in their careers. If Vlasic was bought out I don't think he'd struggle to make $2.5M. I think the Sharks could use Broberg and have the time to redevelop Campbell into a starter they could flip. However my offer probably needs to be upped for San Jose to be interested.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 hours ago
Thread:
Sorry Soup
I think the deal should be Vlasic 50% retained + Blackwood for Campbell + 1st OR Broberg
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
21 hours ago
Thread:
Allen trade 4
LA has Arvidsson coming back, and Allen got destroyed in front of LA. He’s fallen back to earth, LA’s interest is pretty low even at 50% retention
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 hours ago
Thread:
Trade deadline
Walker isn't really a shutdown defenseman, closer to a 2-way defenseman who is better offensively than defensively historically.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
Turcotte
Doesn't work, the Kings real weakness at defense was the 3LD position but that has been fit by stay-at-home physical defender Andreas Englund (signed until next season).
The Kings are set with offensive defensemen with Doughty - Spence - Clarke on the right.
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 1:05 p.m.
Thread:
Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Ignorance is bliss, and many people revel in their oblivious happiness.</div></div>
Fair points as always.
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Sorry, he's not worth a first. Very similar player to Reilly Smith in many aspects, including two-way play, except scoring where Smith (who was traded with term) has been far more consistent and was traded for a 2nd. You actually citing his 27 (not 28) goal season which has clearly been an outlier is cherry picking at its best. He's on pace for about 20G this year, which is respectable, but don't even TRY to act like 27 goals is the norm for this guy. Be better than that.
The people on this site criminally overvalue their players and it's really bad. Be better. He's worth a 2nd, maybe 2nd + decent prospect.
Also, Danault is definitely a very good two-way player, but to call him one of the better in the league is crazy. He's not one of the top two-way players in the league. Stop with that nonsense.</div></div>
Danault is part of the Selke conversation for multiple years, the Selke is illustrative of some of the league's best 2-way centers. I believe that is a fair illustration of being one of the leagues better 2-way centers.
I don't mind that you don't find value in him, but he has legitimately been a top-10 Selke finalist 4 years of his career, taken a team to the cup finals, efficent in the faceoff circle, and one of the better playmakers in the league (for instance his winger Trevor Moore is on a 44 goal pace). I don't see Riley Smith as a close comparable, Danault is basically Kopitar lite which is why he fits here so well.
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 11:31 a.m.
Thread:
Vlasic for Armia
Even at half-retained, Vlasic has a bad contract and has uninspired play which is on the books for another 2 years (when he's almost 39). Even if you got a second team to take another half he'd have to go somewhere where you know he'd find some element of his past game. Not sure I see a fit, my guess is Ferraro is the one who is in play right now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 11:15 a.m.
Thread:
I heard you had a 2019 first rounder
Window to trade Allen looks to be gone, he fell back to earth and looks like an overpaid tender again.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 11:00 a.m.
Thread:
Kings
Kings are finally starting to see Byfield blossom, Danault is necessary on a team who will be losing Kopitar in a few.
The Kings are one of the better teams in the league, why are they selling assets when they are close to icing a cup contender?
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 10:59 a.m.
Thread:
Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Danault has done nothing to earn being worth a 1st. Not to mention the Pens have zero space. Did you even look at our situation? Likely not.
Pens pass and no team in the NHL gives you a 1st for him. His value is similar to Rielly Smith. You're not getting more than a 2nd for him.</div></div>
To start, I wouldn't do any of these trades.
Danaults' highest goals in a season before becoming a King was 13, he's upped that to 28 and posted at least 50 points the last two seasons, and puts games on his back regularly (like literally last night). He has a NTC and is on one of the best teams in the league. LA isn't looking to move him, but saying he isn't worth a 1st is criminally underrating one of the better 2-way players in the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 12:04 p.m.
Thread:
24-25 Kings
Englund provides physicality and plays more of a play-at-home role which benefits Spence. Priority is to reup Roy or improve at goal, this does neither.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 5:25 p.m.
Thread:
Lightning 2023-24
I'd rather have 8 years of Mikey Anderson @ $4.125M than 2 years of Hedman
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 4:55 p.m.
Thread:
Willy Nilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KINGS67</b></div><div>With this trade it most likely turns into him signing. Blake isn’t stupid.</div></div>
Paying $10M for a guy he already has in Kempe at $5.5M is why I don't think Blake would take him. And if they think Nylander has LA circled as a destination he won't pay for his rights as LA isn't a hard sell, we have plenty of swedes here, great weather, and a playoff contending team. LA needs a goalie, and that should be their focus next season.
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 3:45 p.m.
Thread:
Gass
Blackwoods numbers aren't exactly screaming second-round pick value for a one-year rental.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 3:32 p.m.
Thread:
Willy Nilly
LA is good, with Kempe, Moore, and Byfield they don't need Nylander.
Also, that's too much for just fora week of negotiating rights.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
LA TDL in my eyes
Arvidsson comes back around February, I think they don't need Konecy with him returning and having existing chemistry on the team.
Hart would be a heck of a asset, but unless he's open to a $6M extension he's likely too pricey next season for LA.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 11:34 a.m.
Thread:
Built for the cup
So the Kings go from Arvidsson to Konecy (+1 year) and it costs them:
Downgrading a 3rd and 4th to a 1st and 2nd, Akil Thomas, and Alex Turcotte. It's not awful, but I don't think forwards is where LA needs to make moves. They are one of the top offensive teams and Arvidsson isn't even back, this team needs to upgrade from Copley at the deadline.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Mon. at 10:27 a.m.
Thread:
Pearson back to Kings - minor deadline trade
With Lizotte injured right now the Kings need JAD and will likely keep him as a depth piece. Kings are getting Arvidsson back in February, so they already have a stronger offensive piece coming back around the deadline. The only player the Kings would be interested in from the Habs they just extended.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1 at 8:19 p.m.
Thread:
Saros next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>There's only room for one of Spence or Clarke. Spence will stick around until Clarke is ready, then will be moved. His quality play this season will be a huge boon for the Kings when it comes to his trade return.</div></div>
Maybe, but I'm hoping we hold onto Spence. I think there is something to having an offensive minded defenseman on each line: Doughty, Clarke, Spence would feel akin if not better than: Doughty, Voynov/Muzzin, Martinez. We have our shutdown guys, I just see another gear with this team having both Spence and Clarke.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1 at 7:53 p.m.
Thread:
Saros next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McSorley</b></div><div>Highly doubt Talbot can keep it up next year so who are you targeting? Hart is the only other option IMO.
I don't see Spencer or Kaliyev in the long term outlook so why not use them to acquire a top 5 goalie?</div></div>
Spence is criminally underrated with what he has brought this season, the guy can't miss a pass and I think there is an offensive gear here we haven't seen, our third pair looks incredible and I think it's more him than Englund. Kaliev's time to sell is coming soon, we need to get him to breakout offensively and use him and Bjornfot as the trade pieces for a struggling top prospect goalie who we can protect behind a veteran goalie. I wouldn't be upset about 3x1 for Talbot next season, and I think he'd go for it. My biggest concern in playing Spence and Clarke is we lose what Englund has brought in physicality. I don't know a bout you, but I've been seeing physicality from several players this season and LA has their long-term tough guys coming: Helenius and Ziemmer will bring the eventual physicality we've enjoyed from Englund.
I see our lineup as something like:
Byfield-Kopi-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Fiala
Grundstrom-PLD-Laferierre
Kaliyev-Lizzote-Turcotte
----
Anderson-Doughty
Gavrikov-Clarke
Spence-Roy
Although if we can't reup Roy, Martinez-Spence could be impressive.
As far as why I'm not feeling Saros, he's 28 and in his best play window now, but for goalies they can fall out of that quick. I think let's just offer no more than 2-3 year contracts until Portillo and other prospects can be made ready.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1 at 7:19 p.m.
Thread:
Saros next year
Pass from LA, too much and too much for a goalie contract.
Goalies will have LA circled as a destination, Talbot is one of the best goalies in the league thanks to the Kings defense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1 at 7:18 p.m.
Thread:
Vejmelka
Arizona is ahead of Edmonton in the standings right now, not sure they are sellers just yet.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1 at 6:54 p.m.
Thread:
Hughes for PLD
Funny enough, the Kings actually drafted that PLD.
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