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Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Pens trade Kings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Walker > Petterson IMO. They are roughly equal in skill, but Walker plays the more highly desired position.
I don't think there's room for Petterson on the Kings. He's not better than Bjornfot or Anderson. If the Kings are going to trade for a LHD, he needs to be able to play on the top pair.</div></div>
I agree, honestly, the only edge for Petterson over Walker is that he is LD and protecting 3 RD might be something you have to look hard at if you traded for and gave up assets for an LD, but yes, Walker is cheaper and I'm not sure he has even reached his ceiling. I really don't think the Kings make any trades, I believe it was your comments that may have convinced me the Kings may protect 4 dmen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
stanley cup
Parise is getting close to untradeable but he still is a decent player now. The Kings however finally will have many their bad contracts off the books next year. Not sure taking on 4.5 years of another one is worth it, especially if it's a second coming back.
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Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Pens trade Kings
Kings decline for a couple of reasons.
- Vilardi is the Kings best-graduated prospect, they won't sell him until it's clear Byfield and Turcotte have taken his role and he doesn't fit on the wing. Poulin could be great, but Vilardi is actively looking great in the NHL.
- The Kings aren't in a rush to lose Quick, he still looks competitive enough for the next year or so and at least better than DeSmith.
- Obtaining Pettersson is guaranteeing losing Walker, unless you protect 4 which means you lose Clague.
Kings will visit trading with the Penguins after the Seattle draft.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
What I think a return for Logan Brown would look like
Not sure the Kings will be moving any more assets for centers. I think the Kings would trade Lias Andersson straight up but would prefer to keep that second. I',m pretty sure the Kings will use their first and two seconds to shore up on defense and goaltending.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 hours ago
Thread:
6 New Players
Kings are ok, Roy has played well enough for them. Kempe may be moved but there is no rush with another year on his contract at a cheap cap hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 hours ago
Thread:
Trade Deadline
If no ground is made with Iafallo by the trade deadline, ok, but he likely stays a King and moves down the lineup with Kopitar as the young centers come in.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 hours ago
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>i agree the kings pass, they don't *need* Lundqvist.
just in terms of player value - they are much much closer than people think.</div></div>
Fair enough.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 hours ago
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>i wasn't addressing the value of the trade. i was addressing the statement you made about whether it is believed that Lundqvist is bluechip.
if i am addressing value between Turcotte and Nils - it's not far apart at this point. the argument that could be made is that Turcotte is a center which would give him a step on Lundqvist, let's call it a 4th round pick.</div></div>
I think the kings would pass on that, as stated above I don’t believe Nils addresses the top line LD position that Blake has publicly indicated he is looking for, and it would be too early to give up a player the Kings are so high on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Thu at 12:00 am
Thread:
Pain
I don't know what is more impressive: that you didn't include Zegras/Drysdale or that you decided you wouldn't give up any firsts. Probably both, yes, both.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 11:23 pm
Thread:
Sabres Rebuild Credit to JokiStan
You want the Kings to pay you Kempe, Bjornfoot and a 2nd to take Skinner. I’m worried something might be wrong with the water in Buffalo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 10:00 pm
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>No I actually don’t think it’s a one for one just think value isn’t so far off</div></div>
You are welcome to try, but the Kings have plenty of depth they really just need an elite LD. So I'd at least start on the other side because the Kings RD depth: Doughty, Roy, Walker, Strand, Grans, Faber, Spence. LD on the other hand, they have their best guys out there now and no one has that top line look just yet. Blake has openly said he wants to address obtaining a top LD under 25 through a trade, although it's likely that they use their first-round pick this year on an LD and we just get a free agent as a bandaid.
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Armchair-GM
Wed at 9:41 pm
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>As I mentioned I'm not putting anything down on turcotte im just saying nils value is pretty high as well he's looking like a top pair dman as well with an awesome nack for goals on the PP</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>Never said a word about Turcotte.
Also, there is no shortage of successful Swedish defenseman in NHL history, so I’m not sure what you are implying. I simply said Nils is a bluechip.</div></div>
Please recall this text thread began from believing this trade undervalues Turcotte. I'm not trying to put Nils down either or indicate he will be a bust, simply that I would not be happy if Blake did a 1-for-1 deal for him if Turcotte was the piece that was given up. The selection of Worbo as AHL coach and moving him from college shows that the Kings are all in on Turcotte, and it would have to be something impressive to seem an acceptable trade this early in his development. That being said, I imagine Lundqvist will be an impressive part of the Rangers' future, as I hope Turcotte will be as well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 6:51 pm
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>Lundkvist should have been drafted higher. He is first all time for U21 players in the SHL - better than both Karlsson and Dahlin.
He leads all dmen in the SHL in goals and PP goals and is 17th in the league (all skaters) with 21:11 avg ice time.
i'd say he is bluechip.</div></div>
Higher yes, but being equal value to a potential 1C in Turcotte, I'd rather take my chances with Turcotte adapting to the NHL game than a Swedish defenseman to the NHL game.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 6:46 pm
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>nils is a blue chip and position of draft doesn't mean value, lias went 7th and necas and suzuki were much later yet there value is wayyy more than his obviously, nils has legit just been tearing up and breaking records in SHL U21. Im not trying to undermine Turcottes value bc he's gonna be sick but nils is gonna be a stud as well.</div></div>
I agree, 2017 draft position doesn't equal their current value. But I would still prefer Fox over Lundkvist if both have the potential to being top pairing RD. I think with Turcotte being drafted last year at such a high position and won a gold medal in the world juniors as a 1C, he needs to have a proven player coming back if they give up on him this early.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 2:42 pm
Thread:
3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I don’t think he’s underrated. He’s very good but I think Buffalo would want 2 guys with huge potential in the trade and Rangers don’t have much to offer besides Laf or Kakko</div></div>
I believe you are underating Turcotte. Lundkvist went 28th overall in 2018, Turcotte went 5th, I have to imagine you either believe Lundkvist is a blue-chip talent or Turcotte wasn't worth a top 10 pick. If the Kings are giving up Turcotte the Rangers need to send one of: Kakko, Laffy, Fox, or Shestyorkin. If the Kings are giving up their second-best prospect, they need a blue-chip talent coming back. They can affprd to wait and see him develop in their system.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:27 pm
Thread:
Is the value there
Turcotte is Cozens level, send trade appraisals accordingly.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:17 pm
Thread:
Trade Deadline
Kings aren't buying rentals, and Montour isn't worth a 2nd as a rental for other teams.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 12:13 pm
Thread:
Leafs trade deadline
If the Kings can't get at least a second for Athanasiou, I would think they would hold onto him. He definitely can score and his defensive acumen is not nearly as bad as I thought he'd be. He's also an RFA and even if he isn't long for the Kings he's someone Seattle would have to take a hard look at. He's not unmovable, just it needs to be more than this offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 5:32 pm
Thread:
After further review
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.
I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.</div></div>
If that’s all it takes to get Riley sign me up now. But It’s funny I’m actually higher on Ekholm being Doughtys partner and being a great short term patch and remain competitive, Fabbro could be legit, but we need more LD prospects.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 5:19 pm
Thread:
After further review
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>OldNYIfan Tryger KINGS67
What do you guys think?</div></div>
Leafs won’t part with Riley easily, Preds are set to rebuild I think you’ll have the best chance of getting Defensemen without overpaying from Nashville.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 1:41 pm
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>We can probably get Lehtonen for a pick though lol</div></div>
It’s true and I’m probably getting the Kings fleeced here, the Kings won’t trade Kupari until they play him and see how he looks, but I think Kupari will end up being the piece we move to address defense at some point.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 1:33 pm
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>At the cost of who though? I'm not comfortable giving up our prospects for a guy that has shown more signs of not being able to adapt to the NHL than the other way around.</div></div>
I mean this trade isn’t happening, Blake won’t trade away Vilardi, but Kupari for Lehtonen and Liljegren. I’d do it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 1:28 pm
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZiggyPalffy</b></div><div>Why on God's green earth do you value Lehtonen so high?</div></div>
I’ve wanted that guy with the Kings for forever, he’s the top KHL defenseman and just needs to adjust to the NHL. Leafs don’t likely care for him so you can get him plus players.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 1:19 pm
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>He's a 2C on a mediocre hockey team, not a 2C for most teams. Sandin is a year younger and he's a defenseman (i.e. longer to develop) playing on a team with a backlog of LD. I'm not sure there's a single LD on the Kings that would crack the Leafs lineup.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>Would be happy to swap out Lehtonen for Dermott.</div></div>
I’d take the Lehtonen trade, he’s going to be great and worth the wait.
Vilardi is a 2C on his rookie year is what is more impressive, and that has launched a basement team to middle of the pack. The only point Sandin might have had equal value to Vilardi was when his back was injured for a year threatening his career entirely. He’s healthy and nearly a non-tradable asset.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 1:09 pm
Thread:
Vilardi to TO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AkiLumme</b></div><div>General consensus is that Sandin is better prospect than Vilardi. Not saying I agree (probably close), but to add to a trade where you get Dermott who would play in the Kings top 4 and Liljegren who is a top D in the AHL would be a massive overpay for the Leafs. I could see a trade Sandin-Vilardi trade making sense but not on top of Dermott and Liljegren.</div></div>
The problem here is (1) Vilardi has already graduated and Sandin has not (2) That Sandin couldn’t beat out Dermott and Lehtonen for more ice time this season tells me he’s not ready yet (3) Vilardi is already a Calder candidate and eating real minutes at the NHL than Sandin (4) could you please show the prospect ranking list that has Vilardi and Sandin close? They have always been in different draft tiers.
I don’t want Sandin if I’m Blake, I want Lehtonen, Vilardi is the Kings best graduated prospect if a team wants him, it won’t be cheap.
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