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tryger

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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 5:16 pm
Thread: For all those interested in the Sharks assets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>If they fail AGAIN and don’t rebuild next year I fully believe there is a delusion in management and owner ship and we would be the new buffalo. That would be a monumental flaw</div></div>

I sort of understand why though, the Karlsson trade was to obtain that player to push a deep playoff team over the top. I think you guys will pick a balanced approach: manage to trade down a few times and fill some prospect pool holes, buyout Jones, sign Andersen, keep Hertl, and bargain shop for one or more of: Patrick, Kotkaniemi, or Drouin. I don’t see the Kings, Ducks, or Coyotes making the playoffs barring landing a big surprise. But getting past Vegas or the oilers will be tough.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:20 pm
Thread: Best we can hope for
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Youre over blowing the injury to make him seem less valuable. its not a big deal, he'll PaSs A pHySiCaL, and his value isnt affected. Someone like Blake isnt going to worry about an injury with a 6 week recovery period, especially in May</div></div>

Any GM worth their salt sees this injury and his public comments as an opportunity to buy low, Blake definitely wanted to pounce on this apparently inquiring during the trade deadline. If the Sabres don't get the offer they are looking for from the Kings, then make this an auction during the Summer and go to the highest bidder and lose out on Turcotte. But let's be clear the Sabres are not selling from a strong position, the Kings have the cap space, the prospect pool, impressive center depth, and a team so far from the Sabres division that it won't bite them later. Nonetheless his injury and more importantly Eichel's comments against his organization are responsible for his value taking a hit. If you can get a great offer for him I wish you guys the best, but the Kings don't need this as badly as the Sabres do.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:07 pm
Thread: Best we can hope for
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>If Eichel can pass a physical??? His neck is a complete non issue and he could have recovered already. The issue is how he was treated by the Sabres management not his injury.</div></div>

I think it's fair for a team to assess his physical condition with their own doctors to assess the situation after Eichel publically indicated he had two options and the Sabres didn't take his prefered method, it's also quite typical to have a trade executed only after passing a physical to assess any immediate or long-term effects of an injury especially for a $10M all-star who was shut down for 30+ games to end his season.

And this doesn't even touch on the issue that if Eichel has this injury again, the Kings may choose the same path as the Sabres and if that doesn't sit well with Eichel and his agent, the trade talks could be shut down right there.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 4:04 pm
Thread: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Really good analysis. Well done.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DennisReynolds</b></div><div>I think If you’re LA and you’re trading for Eichel, it’s both a short and long term move. Eichel will be your best center on the team and when Byfield starts to make a major impact in three years (when Kopitar’s contract is up as well btw)c then you could have a dominant trio of Eichel, Byfield and Vilardi or Turcotte. Kopitar still has plenty of quality hockey as well left.

And you do it because you think he can make you a contender. In the short term, Eichel helps them get to the postseason easily. Long term, he easily makes them a Stanley Cup contender in the west again.

They do need some scoring help but I think the main concern here short term is not if they need a center but if they want to pay three guys 10 million for three years

Having said, I don’t think there is any chance they get Byfield, and I think LA would balk at including Vilardi as a second piece. I think the return would be centered around Turcotte, Anderson-Dolan and the 10th overall pick

The kings also do have other areas of concern, but if they acquire Eichel, it only gives them much more flexibility to address those needs by moving a center or forward prospect to fill it</div></div>

Oh also, Turcotte, JAD, and the 10th overall would be beaten by other teams, I would take it if they would though.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 4:01 pm
Thread: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DennisReynolds</b></div><div>I think If you’re LA and you’re trading for Eichel, it’s both a short and long term move. Eichel will be your best center on the team and when Byfield starts to make a major impact in three years (when Kopitar’s contract is up as well btw)c then you could have a dominant trio of Eichel, Byfield and Vilardi or Turcotte. Kopitar still has plenty of quality hockey as well left.

And you do it because you think he can make you a contender. In the short term, Eichel helps them get to the postseason easily. Long term, he easily makes them a Stanley Cup contender in the west again.

They do need some scoring help but I think the main concern here short term is not if they need a center but if they want to pay three guys 10 million for three years

Having said, I don’t think there is any chance they get Byfield, and I think LA would balk at including Vilardi as a second piece. I think the return would be centered around Turcotte, Anderson-Dolan and the 10th overall pick

The kings also do have other areas of concern, but if they acquire Eichel, it only gives them much more flexibility to address those needs by moving a center or forward prospect to fill it</div></div>

The Kings have areas of concern, yes, but center isn't it, with Kopitar-Byfield-Turcotte-Vilardi-JAD-Kupari-Andersen-Madden-Thomas-Lizotte, they are not desperate at the position as they are at LD where they have Bjornfot and Andersen as top 4 defensemen. Also, their leading scorer is 36 year old Dustin Brown who has potted 17 for the season, losing Vilardi and Turcotte as potential options for them to transition to playmaking wingers.

To compound this bad fit: Eichel has a sketchy injury status where he is being barred from surgery (which I imagine a willing team would also need to be ok with this surgery), multiple occasions of him seeming like a thorn to management with public outcries, Eichel is a player who has yet to push his team into playoff contention, and his brutally bad season the Sabres are not giving Eichel his peak value that would justify the return of two centers who are projected borderline top-line /top-six and two high picks.

Furthermore, if the Kings decide they want to make an immediate playoff push why would they move Vilardi who is an active NHLer forcing Byfield to take on a much larger role if Eichel isn't ready to start the season. The Kings could potentially give up Turcotte, Kupari, and a 1st for Eichel (what I imagine Blake will offer), but I think this offer would be beat by the Rangers who are more desperate at the position.