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Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Thread: Ranking first overall picks since 2000
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Playoff scoring since 2022: <a href="https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=20212022&amp;seasonTo=20232024&amp;gameType=3&amp;sort=points,goals,assists&amp;page=0&amp;pageSize=50" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?reportType=season&amp;seasonFrom=20212022&amp;seasonTo=20232024&amp;gameType=3&amp;sort=points,goals,assists&amp;page=0&amp;pageSize=50</a>

McDavid lacks "compete level"? He's not a playoff performer?

Sure, bud.</div></div>

I have said several times, I would like to see McDavid win a cup before I say he's the best player drafted over the last 25 years. If that is a point of contention we are at an impasse.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Thread: Ranking first overall picks since 2000
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schuyler</b></div><div>Yeah I mean I don't think anyone is saying anything bad about Crosby he's for sure #2 here but McDavid is one of the best playoff performers of all time literally Gretzky and Lemieux stats in the modern era its insane not his fault he's had so many horrible GMs and teams. He has nearly x2 the regular season awards at 27 lead the league in playoff points in 2022 without playing in the final and last year had 20 points in the first 2 rounds Eichel lead the playoffs with 26 just insane to say McDavid needs to do more</div></div>

I think "best" is a subjective term here, best should be who positions you to win the most games. McDavid is not a one man machine, and from hockey pundits to vegas, no one thinks of Edmonton as an empty threat team.

If you think McDavid could retire today and still be considered the best player drafted over the last 25 years, I'd agree on skill, not just yet on compete level.

I believe compete level is proven by playoff performance, I don't think it's crazy to say if McDavid doesn't get a cup appearance for his career he is not considered the best player drafted over the last 25 years.

I also think it's myopic to say the only reason the Oilers haven't won a cup is because of management. The Oilers have one of the strongest top-6 in the entire league, they have solid defense, and really just weak at goaltending, but several recent cup winners have overcome those odds. Vegas, hockey pundits, and most fans wouldn't be surprised to see the OIlers make the cup final, so I don't think we can just say "bad GM. on any other team McDavid would win a cup"
Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago
Thread: Ranking first overall picks since 2000
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>I guess the point isn't getting across...

McDavid being stuck with a **** GM who can't build a team around him doesn't make Crosby the better player.</div></div>

McDavid has proven he can be the best player in the league during the regular season. There is no argument there.

My argument is McDavid will be considered a better player than Crosby when he wins a cup and a conn smythe.

The ultimate goal of any pick is to win a cup. The highest award in the game of Hockey is the Stanley Cup, which Sidney Crosby has won 3 times, 2 of which he was considered the best player during those 32 wins, he did that on back-to-back seasons, something never done in the history of the game.

Point totals, longevity of career, hardware, and cups should all be important when discussing a player being hall-of-fame worthy. Every name other than McDavid on that top-5 has won a cup. I just want to see a guy in his prime win a cup before I say he's the best draft pick in 25 years.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:56 p.m.
Thread: Shakeup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Brodin was injured for almost 20 games, Spurgen gone for basically the whole season...that's the Wild's top pairing right there. Any team that loses their top pair will have a struggling goalie. ***note that i know Faber stepped in and played great***

My argument on the Kings superior defensive structure is exemplified by Talbot and Rittich. Talbot is well passed the days he was a legit starter, but he put together a very good season. Look at Rittich's past season stats, he's never been as good as he was this season. Its obvious that they're success was because of the Kings system...</div></div>

Wild have already committed to MAF and Gustavasson is the odd man out with Wallsted coming.

LA could go after Lankinen, Murray, Sorokin, etc. for free and likely at cheaper contracts without giving up a 2nd or Kaliyev. I dont get why they are paying so much for something the Wild have to do.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:31 p.m.