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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:55 pm
Thread: Colorado
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>earl08</b></div><div>Slight exaggeration, but not far off. Last yr, when given real TOI + linemates, Bura was a 50pt player. In seasons past he wasn't given similar opportunities. Laine has shown to be a solid 60pt guy. The Jets already provide him with talented linemates, so not sure you'd see a big difference in production by switching teams. Ignoring division, I'd say Bura + 2nd is accurate value for Laine.</div></div>

If laine goes to COL he’d get put with Mackinnon and Rantanen. Laine has had 1 good center for a whole season and that was his rookie year with scheifele. In which he scored 64 pts in 73gp. That’s the only year he was put with a good C and he’s a way better player now. If he played with mackinnon he’d score 45 goals and have 50 assists lol. The difference between burakovsky and laine is a large amount. There is no way burakovsky + 2nd is near enough for laine.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 20 at 3:37
Thread: Laine to FLA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Source? Who say's that Florida is the front runners on Patrik Laine, There's nothing linking him to Florida and 29 other NHL teams can easily beat that offer. Lundell right now is nothing less then an unproven prospect. Weeger doesn't improve the jets anymore then say Josh Manson does.</div></div>

From <a href="/users/bunzy1034" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@bunzy1034</a> :

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This guy is always way ahead of the mainstream guys. I wouldn't say it is off the books, to much smoke not to be fire. I am pretty sure Dreger said that what Laine's agents said were true

I think Weegar really helps our top 4, lundell is already close to nhl ready and that 1st has some value, maybe it takes more but I honestly thought it was an overpayment considering the whole situation. Maybe make the 1st a 2nd and add Tippett?
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 20 at 9:21
Thread: Lainer stays at home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>From what I understand, Carolina offered us Jake Bean and a 1st for Petry at the deadline (Habs declined cuz they didn't view Bean as a legit top 4 long term), it wouldn't surprise me if Bean was the D offered to you guys as well.

Another option could be that I highly doubt that Dougie Hamilton stays in Carolina. What extension would be you prepared to offer a guy like him? Laine vs. an extended Dougie Hamilton could make alot of sense for both sides. It would take Hamilton picking Winnipeg now ahead of waiting for the rest of the league as a UFA next offseason. Easier said that done, probably. No NMC in the last year of his current deal though, so a lot less leverage of picking his destination if he wants to sign the extension now. That's probably an advantage for Winnipeg compared to most players in his situation.</div></div>

Only way I’m doing Dougie for Laine is if he’s willing to sign 7x8m. He’s IMO a great dman, but if he’s not willing to take under 9m then I wouldn’t bother.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 19 at 1:40
Thread: Lainer stays at home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>100% agree with you, and I think he'll get his price (despite that price likely being largely different from what some of the Jets fans on this site tend to preach).
Do you know what Chevy's most recent comments have been about what he'd be looking for in return? Or what Winnipeg media has been floating as a "hypothetical asking price" most recently?</div></div>

Well I remember that Carolina was rumoured to have offered Necas + a dman and the jets declined. I’d assume the dman had to have been Skjei for the jets to not take it. Last I heard was that the asking price was ridiculously high, so I’d assume they’re looking for a top C prospect and a top 4 dman with term, maybe a pick as well.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 19 at 12:05
Thread: Lainer stays at home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>If Chevy wants a right now top 4 dman, then the Habs aren't a fit. With that said, I don't really know who across the league is prepared to give up a top 4 D that you'd actually be willing to consider in return for Laine. Keep in mind that Winnipeg could have had Nate Schmidt for a 2022 3rd round pick (expected value more than Vancouver's pick) but you weren't interested, so I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't actually what Chevy was interested in right now.
Also, it's hard to argue that Danault (6th in Selke voting last year) isn't quality. Consistent 20-25 goal scorers like Tatar don't grow on trees either. And two players with the chemistry that they have together is even rarer.

Laine's value isn't "low" right now. If he's forced to play out the last year of his deal, and he's unhappy about it, it's not inconceivable that we'd be actively watching his trade value fall further if he puts up "only" a 30 ish goal season (or less) this year, at the same time as starting to complain more openly...</div></div>

I do agree with some of what you’re saying. I know Schmidt had wpg on his NTC list. So we weren’t in that conversation. I think unless Chevy gets exactly what he wants laine won’t be moved.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 19 at 11:46
Thread: Lainer stays at home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Chevy should focus on doing what's best for the Jets long term. Not what's best for Laine's next contract. The writing's on the wall. He should move him now before this inevitably becomes an annoying distraction all next year. I think Laine's trade value won't ever be bigger than it is right now. Danault and Tatar (both extended) plus quality D prospects would be an absolutely monster return.</div></div>

It doesn’t matter. Moving him now as is, is worse than padding his stats and moving him. His value is low right now due to the fact that he “wants out” let him score and build his value. I agree the writing is likely on the wall, just maybe not the right choice to force a trade. Also the trade you proposed is quantity over quality. I like Danault but we have perfetti coming up, Tatar is aging and it’s likely his next deal will be an overpayment. Jets need to move laine for a top prospect + top 4 dman. Chevy is being patient, he’s treating the situation right. Laine won’t be moved unless it’s exactly what they want.