SalarySwishSalarySwish
Avatar

tupty

Good nerd
Member Since
Jun. 6, 2023
Favourite Team
Boston Bruins
Forum Posts
891
Posts per Day
2.4
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsApr. 16 at 4:27 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tupty</b></div><div>I agree he's kind of falling apart, but to the point that dgibb10 is making, they are misusing him by running him into the ground. Goaltending is high variance, so I'd expect him to improve over how he is performing right now at some point. In my opinion, you are over-exaggerating how bad he is relative to the rest of the league, but I acknowledge he isn't a top-tier goalie. If you want to spend top-tier assets on Saros or Ullmark, or if you want to gamble on a vet with term like Gibson or Markstrom, then those are both valid strategies. If you think the fit is bad, so be it, but I don't really buy that this trade proposal has bad <em>value</em> for the Devils. Also, the UFA goalie market looks pretty bleak... Stolarz, Samsonov, and Nedeljkovic are probably the best available. Do you trust any of those guys more than Georgiev, and do you think any of them will cost notably less than his 3.4m?

If you sign the two guys you have now and platoon them, don't be surprised to see some turnover in the front office within the next 2 years. If I am Fitz, I am not taking that risk.</div></div>

I would be very disappointed if Fitzgerald puts his own job security over the team's success.

If Fitz brings back Kahkonen/Allen/Schmid/Daws, but uses the assets instead to build a high quality dcore and bottom 6, I'd be much happier than if he paid for a "top goalie" and didn't fix our bottom 6 and find an LD.

I'd rather have Marcus Pettersson and Kaapo Kahkonen than Kevin Bahl and Jacob Markstrom
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsApr. 16 at 7:44 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tupty</b></div><div>Call me a cynic, but I think every GM operates like this. Its only human nature to want to show that you can succeed in a job if you are just given the opportunity. Fortunately, they don't start making wild moves unless they are desperately trying to save their job or they are going all in (likely with ownership approval). However, I do think that one of the things that most GMs are doing is trying to minimize <em>risk</em>. I thin Kahkonen and Allen are both pretty safe to call at least 1B level, and Schmid and Daws are both arguably still unknowns. I think that running back those 4 does not minimize risk. Trading away a big package for a Markstrom doesn't minimize risk either, but anyway, onto your next point.



This is completely valid and I glossed over it. A sound D corps has way less variance than any goalie. I agree that I'd rather have a solid D corps and a middling solution in net than the other way around. This is exactly the reason why I never bought those "wOn ThE cUp WiTh AiDeN hIlL" arguments that I saw around many fanbases for justifying questionable goaltending this year. Those arguments completely ignored how excellent the Vegas D corps and the coach's defensive system were.</div></div>

For NJD it was justifiable last year with Luke,Hamilton,Graves,Severson,Marino,Siegs was an excellent dcore

I expected a step back this year going from Severson-Graves to Luke-Nemec. Funny enough imo Luke-Nemec were overall better than Severson-Graves were (not defensively, but overall) and the loss of Hamilton, and the absolute disappointments of seasons from Bahl Marino and Siegs were the problem.

I still believe in building an elite DCore over overpaying for a volatile goalie.

I'd go after some of the vegas dman, go after some of the carolina dmen, go after pettersson, go after Gavrikov (he could be a bargain cap casualty if he's willing to waive).
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 16 at 11:21 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 16 at 7:53 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tupty</b></div><div>Fair enough. There may not be a trade that makes sense, because the Avs only have so many assets that the Bruins covet and you all might not see Ullmark as worth those particular assets. Two questions before the proposal dies though:

Do you agree the Avs need to move out salary? Which contracts are most likely to be moved?

Take out the cap dump from the equation and pretend you have all of your picks, but assume yoh are still crunched for cap space. Roughly speaking, what value would you place on an Ullmark for Georgiev swap with retention on Ullmark to make the money match?</div></div>

Yes, the Avs will need to move out salary. I don't see them signing Walker, Drouin may well have played himself out of Colorado unless he takes a very low end deal to stay and play with MacKinnon. Trenin would be the only one of the 'deadline deals' I would want the Avs to keep personally. The four most likely to be moved would be Colton, Manson, Girard &amp; Lehkonen imo. The problem is viewing any of those as a cap dump when all have value. It isn't simply a case of dumping the salary of a bad player in this instance it's cap space. Therefore they still have value though the Avs may not get full value for them.

Ritchie is almost certainly off the table in this scenario as well. He could well be on the roster within the current Avs window.

Ullmark simply isn't worth it for the Avs. Even with retention. Georgiev's cap hit is 3.4 and the most he would be likely to get as a raise would be 5 in my opinion (and that is banking on a return to better form next year). Retaining on Ullmark only brings it down for next year and then he needs to be re-signed and whilst the Avs would be paying him 3.4 in this scenario, he's still a 5 mil goalie looking for a raise at that point. Would be terrible asset management by the Avs.

There's simply no deal to be done here imo. Nothing in this helps the Avs, only the Bruins.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 16 at 1:00 a.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsApr. 15 at 9:18 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 14 at 8:08 p.m.