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Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:58 p.m.
Thread: If Georgiev blows it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Georgiev clearly isn't. The UFA market is paper thin this season and even if there was a good option, you guys don't have the cap space to go hunting. This years headliners are Talbot, Nedeljkovic, and Samsonov.

Gibson, Markstrom, and maybe Ullmark are available on the market, but neither Boston or Calgary are likely interested in taking Georgiev the other way. Boston can't retain any salary and Calgary notoriously won't retain salary if there's term remaining.

And you guys aren't the only ones looking. New Jersey, Buffalo, Ottawa, Los Angeles, Toronto are all going to be trying to figure out their goaltending this off season.

Maybe you can convince someone to give you back one of your old goalies on the cheap in Grubauer or Kuemper since they've apparently lost their starting spots in their new homes.</div></div>



<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>You don't exactly have any other assets outside of 1st round picks to use, and again, that's why a second is coming back your way. Goalie market is going to be unpalatable expensive this off-season, you best come to grips with paying a price you're not going to want to stomach, or somehow pray you guys don't have to send Georgiev to the glue factory next season.</div></div>

Replying to both comments at once.

Probably all 3 of those headline guys come in less than $5M. But this is all part of the problem: lay people (and NHL teams lol) don’t really know how to evaluate goalies. Kuemper and Grub were both solid in Colorado. They both left for $5M+ contracts and now lost their starting jobs. Same thing happened with Jack Campbell and countless other goalies.

It’s easy to freak out about Georgiev after that trash showing. But it’d also be bad to spend a bunch of money on netminders and still not have a true #1. That’s the bet the Avs took. It looked fine last year, it looked awful last night.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:50 p.m.
Thread: If Georgiev blows it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>I watched last night's replays as well, 6/7 goals were glove side high. Winnipeg's scouting report on him clearly drilled down on that weakness. Not saying all of them were his fault, but the poor guy looks completely cooked out there.

For as bad as Gibsons stats have been the last few years, I believe he would have fared a lot better in that game, he's much more active/aggressive with his stick to prevent cross crease passes (Georgiev got burner 2 or 3 times by this) and he usually gets the first save buying his defense time to bail him out (Anaheims just hasn't) which isn't what Georgiev was able to do last night. Yeah, the defense was sloppy, but he needs to be making that first save and he just isn't.

With regards to the trade, you guys don't have much in the way of assets to work with, and a 2nd round pick is coming back. If Ritchie is off limits then you're talking about 1sts, and I don't think any team who has a goalie is going to be interested in waiting three seasons for that pick to come through. Behrens and Gulyayev are of no interest to us, and other prospects like Olausson etc just don't look like they're going to do anything at the NHL level.

Plus, you guys aren't the only ones in the market, NJ, Buffalo, maybe Ottawa, LA are all looking for goalies this off-season.</div></div>

Saying Gibson would have been better than Georgiev last night isn’t saying much.

I wouldn’t be paying premium assets to pay John Gibson $5M for the next 3 seasons.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 4 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread: Looking to fill 1RW and 1RD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Cap dump you would have to pay for, he's a cap casualty, you're getting paid, just not market rate.



Unless I'm missing something, you don't have a 3RD next season unless you are able to resign Walker, which is a stretch as well if Landeskog is back. Why would Helleson not be able to make the Avs as a 6-7 RHD on an ELC?</div></div>

Replied to the first part above.

For Helleson, I don’t see the fit. Avs have preferred to put vets who are able to play special teams on their bottom pairing. If Helleson had already established himself in the NHL, fit would be closer. But in that case, you probably wouldn’t be trying to trade him.

If they wanted to go with unproven youth, I would think Malinski would be higher up on the depth chart and has been a good system fit for the Avs during his call ups (23 games this season).

More creative than most ACGMs here, but I don’t quite see him working. Helleson could probably be a good change of scenery candidate in a year (becomes waiver eligible in 25-26), but I’d imagine you’d have to add considerably in a Colton trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 9:29 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31 at 9:09 a.m.
Thread: Drake Batherson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnonymousSensFan</b></div><div>24 years old, no NHL games yet (even though he was signed by Colorado in the summer). His goal production has dipped quite a bit from last season, and on a mid KHL team (based on standings, I don't actually follow KHL), so if he's good, he'd likely be getting a lot of playing time.

Sorry if that doesn't scream elite prospect to me.

If you're argument is that he ain't a bust cause he was a 6th round pick, sure, whatever. A draft pick is a draft pick in my book, but whatever.

Either way, he ain't worth Drake</div></div>

I’m not sure what Batherson’s value is. I’m not going to weigh in on something I don’t know about. Perhaps something you should try out.

Kovalenko has been under contract with his KHL team. That’s why he hasn’t played an NHL game yet. He was so good last season in the KHL that the Avs signed him a season early to burn a year off his ELC. He flew over like a week ago to start his NHL career.

He is the best player on his team in the KHL (coached by Igor Larionov) and plays a very North American game: heavy, physical, forechecking. Way different than like the Gusevs and the Shipachov’s of the world.

Is Kovalenko going to be the next Kaprisov? No, absolutely not. But your comment kinda shows your ass a little bit here. You have no idea what you’re talking about on this one.