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Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago

Thread: Is there any appetite to trade Carlo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LPProductions</b></div><div>this^. Trading Carlo to fix some of the holes up front just creates a bigger hole on the backend. Carlo isn't Jesus Christ, but he plays a super important role on the Bruins that isn't getting replicated in the slightest by anyone if he's traded

Love me some Kuzmenko though</div></div>

The Carlo-sized hole would be huge

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:17 p.m.

Thread: Wild if they Sell

Bogosian just got moved for a 7th like 3 weeks ago

Forum: NHL SigningsTue. at 11:15 a.m.

Thread: Detroit Red Wings signed Patrick Kane (1 Year / $2,750,000 AAV)

I’m sure it’ll be fun but Kane looks cooked. Hope he can rebound, prime 88 was a blast.

Forum: NHL SigningsMon. at 1:55 p.m.

Thread: Vancouver Canucks signed Nils Åman (2 Years / $825,000 AAV)

I still don’t understand why the Avs let this guy walk. Seems like a reasonable 13F option

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 1:22 p.m.

Thread: Seattle TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Hmm not sure how well the acquistion of Eberle would go down in the Colorado dressing room.</div></div>

Just keep his stall away from LOC and Cogliano

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 12:57 p.m.

Thread: Seattle TDL

I’d probably guess you could get more for Eberle retained than that unless he’s fallen off this season.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMon. at 8:40 a.m.

Thread: Helping each other

I’d say the Oil deal is much worse than the Avs deal and that’s saying something.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 5:33 p.m.

Thread: Nurse and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Would it really be though? Bearing in mind that we'd probably be having to move out RyJo & Manson and possibly paying to do so with the cap situation. Is Nuge that good? Open to debate but I don't think it works for the Avs.</div></div>

I’d say no matter what, we’d probably need to move on from Manson, so let’s just call that a wash.

Basically, you’d be trading Girard (a solid player in a 3/4D role) for RNH (a high end 2C). Girard would need to be replaced by someone who would likely be a downgrade. I’d argue that RNH is a larger upgrade over Johansen than Girard would be over whoever we’d get in free agency. There’s still risk, but RNH is real good.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 5:27 p.m.

Thread: Retool 2nd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DRW2025</b></div><div>He was just traded for Alex Galchenyuk who is a fringe NHLer ar best. Since then he has played terrible.</div></div>

Like <a href="/users/TJTwolf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@TJTwolf</a> said, this isn’t accurate.

That said: let’s say he was a replacement-level player. You said the Avs would need to retain 50% AND give up a 1st. When is the last time a team has spent a 1st round pick to cap dump $2M for a year? That’s absolutely crazy.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 5:01 p.m.

Thread: Nurse and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>From what do you derive this judgement? Whether from my eye test, simple statistical measures, or more in-depth analysis, Girard is genuinely bad at defense and gets exploited for it regularly while playing an easier role than Nurse has.

As for Lindstrom, he'd be at best a marginal upgrade on Desharnais and, even then, I'm not certain.</div></div>

I don’t agree on Girard. He’s just a different defenseman. Good at rush defense, but doesn’t play very physically and doesn’t clear the net front like the big body defensemen of the past. But he’s a solid defenseman. Not the answer to Edmonton’s problems, but still solid.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:59 p.m.

Thread: Nurse and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Avs decline. Moving Girard would be for futures not to add cap.</div></div>

I don’t agree. RNH at $5.125M is such a sweet deal. I don’t like the age and the term, but that would lock down 2C for the rest of the cup window. I think Edmonton declines that pretty easily.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:55 p.m.

Thread: Rebuild Continues

A 1st for Raddysh? Kinda wild. Also wild to compare it to the Jeannot trade: an absurd trade that nobody understood at the time that looks even worse in hindsight.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:52 p.m.

Thread: Retool 2nd line

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DRW2025</b></div><div>Wings laugh. Retain 50%, add a first and change the 4th to a 5th and we are talking.</div></div>

I can understand the Wings not particularly needing Johansen but that’s a very absurd return for a middle 6 C on an expiring deal. In what universe is Ryan Johansen at $2M worth a negative 1st?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 23 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: MTL tdl

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowhawk18</b></div><div>Three years of Anderson at $5.5m per would be too costly for a rebuilding team like Montreal to move, they might as well just ride out the storm and hope he can find some level of past performance.

If not, then be prepared to offer up 2 x 1st round picks to dump that contract.</div></div>

It’s funny because Josh Anderson has been putting up numbers relatively consistent with his past performance.

His last seasons where he’s played a close to a full year:

22-23: 1.6 P/60
21-22: 1.6 P/60
20-21: 1.7 P/60
19-20: only played 26 games
18-19: 2.0 P/60
17-18: 1.6 P/60

Obviously a player like Anderson can’t be valued solely based on points, but that contract just looked bad as soon as it was signed.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 22 at 10:27 p.m.

Thread: MTL tdl

Avs aren’t paying $3.85M for a backup goalie. Thanks though.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 22 at 4:53 p.m.

Thread: Masterpiece I

This is terrible for Colorado

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsNov. 22 at 10:20 a.m.

Thread: Cgy - Col Size up those rings in Colorado

Giving up 3 1sts for a bunch of rentals that can’t be re-signed and a backup goalie. No thanks.

You can have MacDermid though.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21 at 9:10 p.m.

Thread: The Nuclear Option

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>Hurricanes don't bite at that... Owner said that there are three players not available and Aho was one of them</div></div>

If it’s Connor McDavid, Aho is available. Come on now.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 20 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: Trying

Avs decline. Even if you assume that Landeskog stays on LTIR, the Avs basically can’t ice a full team with that Gaudreau contract.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsNov. 19 at 7:57 p.m.

Thread: Maybe

I don’t think the Avs could ice a full roster with Gaudreau on the team. Especially if Landeskog comes off LTIR

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19 at 7:56 p.m.

Thread: Solving Depth C Playoff Edition

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Neither team makes that deal.</div></div>

Chicago doesn’t do it because Bedard is the future of the franchise Colorado doesn’t do it because C Mac thinks it’s a phishing scam

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19 at 8:59 a.m.

Thread: Next year

I’d take that Manson trade.

With your UFA signings, I think DeAngelo is an awful fit. On a team with Makar/Toews/Byram/Girard as your top 4, your bottom pair needs to profile as a defensively responsible as you can. DeAngelo wouldn’t get any PP time and I’d rather any favorable offensive deployment go to one of the top 4 guys.

Kulikov on the other hand fits the bottom pair profile well. Avs would probably target a cheap vet that can PK and not get eaten alive defensively.

That 4th line would be so obnoxious lmao. If LOC isn’t even the biggest ****head on a line, other teams would hate it.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19 at 8:52 a.m.

Thread: Full Rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>You can scratch the Avs trade for starters.</div></div>

Giving up that much for a rental would suck but adding Lindholm to the top would add another level to this team.

At that type of return, you’d definitely need 50% retention and then I’m still on the fence tbh

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 18 at 11:56 p.m.

Thread: Colorado

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>I’d take Behrens and Jones and keep Manson over that bottom 3. And it is always telling who watches and doesn’t watch the Avs that don’t realize how good Colton Wood and LOC have been on the 3rd line</div></div>

I’d prefer to move on from Manson and keep Girard, who has looked solid this year.

It’s clear the coaching staff has a hierarchy and Manson is on the outside looking in. Hated that contract from day 1

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 18 at 11:55 p.m.

Thread: Colorado

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>I like Girard but don't think Caps have room for him. They are stacked on the left side.</div></div>

Girard plays both sides. He’s also a better option than most of the guys Washington has on that side.

Regardless, this is a bad trade for Colorado imo

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