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Forum:
NHL Trades
Tue. at 9:13 a.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>He's tied for 14th in points for a defencemen and his on-ice goal differential is 22.5 BELOW expected. That's not elite. That's certainly not worth the paycheck he's earning.</div></div>
he's had a great season and if our PP wasn't garbage he would be in the top 10 of points easy
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NHL Trades
Tue. at 9:12 a.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Orr28</b></div><div>Unless they go on an absolute late season heater.... so much for that lol</div></div>
well we did but it just wasn't enough... shouldn't of had to do that in the first place though.
w/e jarry blew it.... WHO WANTS HIM?!
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NHL Signings
Sat. at 8:38 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>The only team I'll disagree with you here... They have 20+ mill in cap space next year, so they should look better... Along with the JT contract expiring the year after, they'll have plenty of cap space for the next couple of years...</div></div>
Well yeah they'll have a lot of room, but the point is that they have a bunch of guys who aren't signed
like Bertuzzi, Domi, Brodie, Giordano, Boosh, Edmundson, Samsonov, Liljegren, Robertson, Jones, Dewar..
Its unclear who they'll let go or who they'll give offers to... Matthews has liked playing with Domi lately... and they're actually a team that will have a TON of space, unlike Vegas who will have to move people to get the guys they need to signed under the cap.
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NHL Signings
Fri. at 9:42 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Then they lose other players</div></div>
yea that was always going to be the case for them this year. it's like a bunch of teams that are good this year, Toronto, Florida, Carolina, Winnipeg, Tampa, they all have players to sign and it's unclear who will get signed and who will be let walk.
Also how they play in the playoffs is a big factor in how much they might cost in the offseason.
There will, most likely, be a decent amount of good FAs in this years class.
What will the cap look like though, isn't is supposed to go up?
Factors!
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 12 at 12:48 a.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Dorofeyev is an RFA and wont cost much to extend
Amadio, Carrier, Martinez be gone
VGK have prospects ready to make the jump and some guys on cheap deals who can fill in</div></div>
I feel like they might be open to moving Roy as well, potentially resigning Martinez at a low hit. But yeah, depends how things shake out in the playoffs too
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NHL Signings
Apr. 11 at 8:47 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Mantha and Stephenson yes
Marchessault no
Got a feeling they gonna move out someone's like Whitecloud to make it work. Also have Lehners LTIR money to work with</div></div>
Don't forget about Dorofeyev, Amadio, Carrier and Martinez.
I think Alec will take less to resign, most likely, but those are also some important pieces...
They will be making a trade in the offseason before FA starts that is for sure.
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NHL Signings
Apr. 11 at 8:45 p.m.
Thread:
Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>So I guess VGK is saying goodbye to Mantha, Marchessault and Stephenson next year?</div></div>
Yea def not Marchy, they'll make some room for him elsewhere on the lineup
Stevie is probably one of the best centers available though, he's going to get paid.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 25 at 6:08 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>I'm not saying they lost, not even close. After all, Mike Hoffman was a cap dump and Rem Pitlick is a slightly overpaid injury call-up. They gave up nothing they wanted to keep and got back assets. I'm just saying they didn't win by as much as people first thought they did. They turned three of those assets into a 3rd, a 4th, and an AHLer. THIS trade was a win, but everything since then has been a miss.
On the other hand, it is very likely Kyle Dubas will be forced to blow up the Penguins next year and that 2024 pick will turn into a very high 2025 pick. The plurality of people picked Pittsburgh as the winner here and I think a lot of them are regretting that vote, especially if they have to pay assets to get rid of Erik Karlsson.</div></div>
This offseason he has to reload, there is no blowing it up until Sid decides to retire or sign somewhere else after next year. Dubas, if he's smart, will actually use this offseason to make the team better. Selling everybody who, about 5 or 6 months ago, he had locked in for 2-3 more years of going for it, doesn't make sense.
Unless of course the FSG overlords hired him to dismantle the team and force Sid out... but trading for EK in the first place doesn't say that to me. Dubas has also made it a point to say that the core as of now is Sid, Geno, Letang, and EK. Rust too b/c they <3 him
You build around that.
SADLY he also signed Jarry and Graves to terrible deals so....
DOESN'T LOOK GOOD
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 25 at 6:00 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zk97</b></div><div>this aged well</div></div>
Hey wait I said if we miss it will be b/c of goaltending and I was on the money with that one so shove that dahn your pipe
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NHL Trades
Mar. 25 at 5:58 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zk97</b></div><div>this aged well</div></div>
yeah looks like graves isn't that good and the bottom 6 scored like 4 goals combined... another offseason with Dubas awaits and I'm honestly so stoked for him to reload here it's going to be next lvl
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NHL Trades
Mar. 10 at 3:20 p.m.
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(PIT/CBJ) - Nylander, 2026 6th (PIT) for Bemström
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>It's pretty common in the NHL, give a skill guy, offensive roles and teammates and he'll produce. Pittsburgh simply didn't play him right. I mean, just watch Vega's, and Seattle's expansion seasons. Depth players and rejects turned into everyday good NHLers.</div></div>
Yea, Sullivan/staff didn't play him right, just like they haven't been playing POJ right, and how they never gave Smith a chance, and how the PP was terrible this year, and how Granlund scored 1 goal in 20 games here... the list goes on
We are not being led by competent people who make things work... it's Byslma all over again damnit! I thought we already did this plot line in another season!
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NHL Trades
Mar. 10 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
(PIT/CBJ) - Nylander, 2026 6th (PIT) for Bemström
Great, another example of Sullivan and his staff misevaluating a player and selling him for cheap... when Bemstrom came over the local media was like "HE'S GOT A GREAT SHOT"..... YEAH GUESS WHO ELSE HAS ONE?!
THE GUY THEY TRADED
I've watched all Nylander's plays with Columbus... I guess Sullivan told him to dump it in every shift instead of SNIPING IT
He immediately looks better than like 6 dudes on our team RIGHT NOW on a technically much WORSE team...
HE HAS MORE GOALS IN COLUMBUS THAN Harkins/Acciari/Nieto have COMBINED FOR ALL SEASON...
how did we not realize this guy needed more minutes and a longer leash to unleash the .50 Cal???
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING..?!
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NHL Signings
Mar. 7 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
New York Rangers signed Jonathan Quick (1 Year / $1,300,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jr400</b></div><div>I can’t fault LA for letting him go. He was not very good there at the end, and the salary cap doesn’t give you the luxury of keeping guys around for sentimental reasons.
It’s hard to feel sorry for a guy with three Stanley Cups who’s still playing meaningful minutes at his age, but this would be a feel good story if I didn’t hate the Rangers so much.</div></div>
well they could use him as well, so not only was it a bad idea for sentimental reasons, I'm pretty sure it messed up the room for a sec and players were actually mad about it.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 6 at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
(OTT/FLA) - Tarasenko for 2024 4th (FLA), 2025 3rd (FLA)
lol
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 5 at 6:19 p.m.
Thread:
Minnesota Wild signed Zach Bogosian (2 Years / $1,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Remember when it was considered a coin flip on which defenseman the Kings were going to take at #2 overall in 2008?</div></div>
what a draft for D men that turned out to be... maybe one of the best ever
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 5 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Colorado Avalanche signed Ivan Ivan (2 Years / $845,000 AAV)
His middle name is probably ,
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 4 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread:
Nashville Predators signed Thomas Novak (3 Years / $3,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>The playoffs curse.
Trotz owed it to his players to not go in fire sale mode with the good season they are having.
So, it's good for the fans hopes to keep your UFAs, but does anyone really think they can get to the 2nd round?</div></div>
Playoffs its goaltending (which they have) and scoring depth (which they could have in the spring) so yeah, depending on who they match up against, they certainly could... they just trounced COL 5-1 and are on an 8 gamer...
Also Josi is quietly a top 3 Norris season again and if not for Quinn busting out he would probably win this year.
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NHL Signings
Mar. 4 at 5:02 p.m.
Thread:
New York Rangers signed Jonathan Quick (1 Year / $1,300,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>Who knows what that dynamic was like; it was during the season that Quick didn't seem to accept that he was a 1B/backup goalie. He was pretty upset about his deployment and if LA offered him $1 million to be that at that time he might have been pretty upset/disrespected. His trade to CBJ/VGK and signing in NYR was the humble pie he needed to reset his own expectations.
All my own $0.02 as non-insider/silent observer. Great on him to still be making a relevant impact in the league though and pushing for those all-time American goalie records</div></div>
True we don't know the specifics but also he was good in the room and a part of that core that won twice... so they decided to pay Talbot and Copley instead? Trade for korpi?? just seems short sighted, even at the time i was like "YEESH"
and the reax at the time too, everybody thought it was bunk to move him to COL... and now with how Dubois has played this year... and how much they gave up for him... like Vilardi is better haha
Dems my .02 bro beans
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 3 at 3:44 p.m.
Thread:
New York Rangers signed Jonathan Quick (1 Year / $1,300,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RagsWingsAvsDucks</b></div><div>Little bit of risk with his age but good for him. Quieted all the doubters really fast</div></div>
yeah, LA could use him too.... I'm starting to think Blake might not be the best GM of all time...
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 2 at 1:44 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Elias Pettersson (8 Years / $11,600,000 AAV)
They have a ton of signings to complete before FA starts, but this could have been the most important one. I see how the game is going now... this cap # still seems a bit high to me.. but w/e he's good enough to command top $ and this is what it looks like ATM.
Teams need at least 2 HoF caliber guys up top to compete for the Cup and now they have their 2 locked in for 5+ years with Quinn for 3 more at least.
Do they still make a trade for Jake? We know they want him... but does he want to go to VAN long term? I just hope if we make that trade Dubas doesn't think getting Miky back is a good enough return for a current player... we would have to get Boeser and that just seems unrealistic for them to want to do he's a big part of their room...
1st, Lekkerimaki, Miky... not sure I see a trade for Jake fitting here, especially if Kyle is fielding offers from several teams, including Vegas and Edm
And then what does Jake # in van look like? I don't see it, not after they went and got Lindy already.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Feb. 28 at 9:11 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGxForum</b></div><div>Yeah even if Vancity doesn't go far this season all they have to do to win this trade is extend Lindholm...anyone underestimating Lindholm doesn't know much about hockey and that's why Lindholm commanded the price Vancouver paid...for Vancouver to win this trade all they have to do is resign Lindholm which is almost certain they will...</div></div>
Yeah they probably will, as he will be a priority, but man what an offseason it will be for them with roster changeover and long term money given out... apparently they're big in on Jake so buckle up buddy!
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 24 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread:
This is the only way Kenny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WingsMJN2965</b></div><div>Trading a former Top 10 pick, former Top 15 pick, and two firsts for a forward you can't possibly afford to re-sign definitely sounds like a Ken Holland move.</div></div>
Also to be fair, Joseph is a former 1st as well. The thing with players who haven't done anything yet... they're defined by their draft position. Joseph is the same way... he isn't really a bottom pairing guy, he just hasn't had much runway to figure it out yet.
So, yea this is a future loaded deal plus Foegele, basically; we get much actively worse by doing this. I would imagine though, Dubas would use one of those firsts to get some other dude... maybe Tanev...
Still though it would have to be contingent on him resigning there, to be that big of a package
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 24 at 2:50 p.m.
Thread:
This is the only way Kenny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WingsMJN2965</b></div><div>Trading a former Top 10 pick, former Top 15 pick, and two firsts for a forward you can't possibly afford to re-sign definitely sounds like a Ken Holland move.</div></div>
He'd have to figure out a way to ensure he'd resign, probably move out Kulak/Ceci/anything else that isn't nailed down or named Connor/Leon/Ryan
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Trade Machine Proposals
Feb. 24 at 2:48 p.m.
Thread:
This is the only way Kenny
For this to work, Jake has to agree to resign in EDM. If he does that, they'll end up moving the roster around to fit him, and it will need more surgery later.
I included Joseph because we don't need him on the active roster and he can either be used as more trade bait for EDM later, or integrated into their system which is thin on the back end anyway. He adds incentive for them, a sweetener if you will, and we honestly don't need him... Smith could fill his spot, and also, we can make a trade for another D with one of those 1sts, a la Hronek to VAN last year. Or we can include Graves somehow and get Bouchard back... LOL
So, for EDM, you are getting a Top 6 winger for McDavid for the rest of his career, basically. Clearly he has done well with Sid... so yeah, next best thing... This would also BIG TIME incentivize both Drai and McJ to stay in EDM because… will they stay if they don't win? Also, for the playoffs THIS YEAR Guentz > Foegele/Holloway
Speaking of those 2 active pieces =>
Holloway - Since Dubas/FSG love Sullivan so much, I'm sure he'll integrate them somehow. If you look at it on paper, Jake was a 3rd Rd pick, and Holloway is a 1st from '20, a year we didn't one. He is unproven but maybe he isn't a lower line guy (where he's played most of his NHL career) and needs to play up in the lineup. I don't know enough about him... but he gets NHL games, he HITS, and has barely played in the AHL... Our cupboard is DRY down there now that we traded Nylander and Pitlick (two of their top 3 scorers). Worst case scenario he goes to the Baby Pens and gets better instead of rushed up. His ceiling is undetermined.
Foegele - He plays Top 6 now and is extremely OK... he'll fit in just fine here, but hey, at least he does score sometimes... WE HAVE NO DEPTH SCORING, and at least he's healthy so... he can help us make the playoffs! Maybe! Either way, he is UFA, and it makes way too much sense not to include him in this deal... EDM needs to offset some salary, and they have a roster full of guys who aren't going anywhere.
Futures =>
Broberg is an offset sweetener coming back who can maybe be coached up here. Joseph > Broberg right now, but Dubas said we need to get younger, and I don’t see much traction over there in EDM with this guy… it’s almost like their minor league affiliate sucks at building young talent!
The 2 firsts are basically high 2nd round picks, but we have NO picks and this gives us more ammo to make some other moves.
This accelerates EDM to being a much more dangerous team, much more quickly. This succeeds in getting a legit haul of now/future pieces who can maybe make this type of trade worth it, even though Sid would be super pissed at first. Clock is ticking Kenny, better get a Cup here before your golden geese split!
Forum:
NHL Trades
Feb. 8 at 1:16 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PrisonBull</b></div><div>Lindholm played on the top line with EP40 for Team Sweden. They are also friends. Reuniting them might be something EP40 requested. It certainly won't harm the Canucks chances to resign either.
Kuzmenko is fun to watch on offense (power-play specialist) but has completely lost his and the Canuck's confidence. He is a liability defensively. He will be exposed on a weak team. He is one of the more adorable players in the league and an awesome interview. (A cross between Munenori Kawasaki and Ilya Bryzgalov.)
Jarmo needs to sign by this June or is also UFA. He is a huge stay-at-home defenceman. Not likely to come over to NA but I am certain the Flames will do their best.
Hunter turned 19 in November and didn't qualify for the WJC. He is having an outstanding season for the Rangers. Still just a B+ prospect.
All picks are lottery tickets. The more you have the greater the chance one has of cashing in.
Best part of this trade is the Canucks didn't have to part with any of their top A prospects: Willander, EP2, or Lekkermaki
Canucks will need to make the WCF for it to convert to a third. Otherwise, what you said is the result.</div></div>
I have a feeling the Nucks will resign him as well, but this is a huge offseason for this management team.
Not only do they have to get EP40, Hronek, and Lindholm signed, all of which will be big time numbers, but also there are a ton of depth pieces here that either need resigned to similar hits, or have outplayed those numbers and need raises.
In no particular order, Bluger, Lafferty, Joshua, Myers, Cole, and Zadorov are all UFA as well.
Also, as an aside again, I mentioned Dvorak as a Bruins candidate in a prior post but they'll probably be in on Henrique as well. They basically need a center to have any shot vs those ATL teams in the playoffs.
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