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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 9, 2020 at 4:49 p.m.
Thread: What Would Detroit Have to Give NYR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>He is/was a great goalie and yeah I take him in Detroit. If he doesn't retire this off season he will when his contract is up. I just think is very disrespectful to trade him to a rebuilding before his final season. Seriously Hank was the face of the Rangers since he joined them in the 2005-06 season. Yzerman is big on character and Andersson's temper tantrum at the WJCs when he threw his silver medal into the stands and then he walked out on his team midseason, He is a selfish a brat and I think it's safe to say he won't be coming to Detroit any time soon.</div></div>

Yeah, I just don't know how NYR does it where it is respectful but doesn't hold them back.

I didn't know about the WJC incident. That is ridiculous.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
Thread: Tough decisions on young players
You're going to get a lot of negative comments for this one. I'm a big fan of the idea of massaging a deal where Detroit takes the Eriksson contract for Demko. Virtanen is a nice start to try to balance it, but you would have some ways to go yet. Remember, Marleau went with a first and a seventh for a sixth. His contract was $6.25M for one more season. Add another season and the cap hell reality COVID has ushered in, and you will need more. If that's the measuring stick, then Eriksson is worth two firsts and two sevenths minus two sixths. One sixth is in the trade to begin with. One could point at Martin Jones as a comparative for Demko. He went for a first and Kuraly as a promising young goalie. So, that takes out a first. Kuraly was a promising center prospect in college and was a fifth round pick. Trading up two sevenths for a single a sixth and taking a little value out of the remaining first. Virtanen may eat up the rest of the value. Let other fans who are better at this than me argue that. But that leaves Pickard and Biega as overpayment.

So, based on the reasoning above, I would remove Biega and Pickard and maybe throw in a fifth to Detroit. Now, everyone commence in telling me how stupid I am. haha
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 9, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
Thread: What Would Detroit Have to Give NYR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>The only thing there that Detroit would want is the 1st round pick. Hank is an aging superstar why on earth would he want to spend his last season on a rebuilding Detroit team? I doubt he gets traded at all. Let him make the rounds and get honored by the rest of the league. At this point Andersson is known more for his off ice antics than his play. No way Yzerman brings him in to Detroit.</div></div>

Would Hank want to? No. Would he fill a need for Detroit for a season? Yes. Why take an aging guy with a huge contract for one season? He's still capable in the role he would play, and the contract nets you futures for cap space you weren't going to use anyway. As far as Andersson goes, maybe a change of scenery situation. I think I heard he wanted more playing time which he has a better chance at getting in Detroit than New York.

I'm not saying you aren't making good points. I'm just providing counter points.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 8, 2020 at 11:49 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2020 at 5:23 p.m.
Thread: Help Me Make This Work - Murray and Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dca919</b></div><div>Allen trade set the market. The cost of a one year option 1B goalie rental is a mid-third. One year RFA probably moves it up by half a round (low 2nd or early 3rd). Remember, Pittsburgh needs to unload salaries and protect against losing Murray or Tristan Jarry to the Kracken for nothing. One of their young goalies is going to be traded....and that limits the cost.
Dunn isn't going to be moved. You don't move 23 year old d-men with 1st pairing/#3 d-man upside. Now given St Louis' cap issue they are susceptible to an offer sheet ($4,227,438 - $6,341,152 is a 1st &amp; 3rd---but i think even a bridge offer of $4,227,436 for only a 2nd would send panic through the Blues front office). That's about the only way to get Dunn other than a massive overpay in draft capital. And 2.5M is significantly under-priced for Dunn as any team with more than 3.5M in cap space picking towards the bottom of the 2nd round (with their own pick) would be happy to throw that offer sheet for him.

Mantha contract value looks right, but that term is too short. Either make it 1 year at less $ or that amount for more term.</div></div>

Thanks for the input.

With Dunn's contract, I was thinking bridge deal which typically comes under arbitration like money. I was definitely sweating if it shouldn't be more though.

Yeah, I go back and forth on Mantha's contract. I want long term, but he has just been so injury-ridden recently. The thought was give him a couple of years and pay big if he is healthy most of that time. Healthy, he could hit 40 goals and be worth way more than just $6.5M. So, it had advantages on both sides to take a shorter contract although it does place extra risk on Mantha.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.
Thread: Help Me Make This Work - Murray and Dunn
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>People are really sleeping on Vince Dunn. Great on the advanced stats; not a slouch defensively. He played mostly with Robert Bortuzzo and here are the only guys with over 100 GP over the last 2 seasons with a better 5v5 primary point rate:
John Carlson
Roman Josi
Dougie Hamilton
Victor Hedman
Morgan Rielly
Kris Letang
Brent Burns
Shea Weber
Tony DeAngelo
Tyson Barrie
Charlie McAvoy
Erik Karlsson
Mark Giordano
Damon Severson
Thomas Chabot
Jared Spurgeon
Travis Sanheim
Aaron Ekblad
end of list

He shouldn't be a cap casualty, he is just entering his prime and will be extremely affordable for what he provides.</div></div>

Yeah, he was on TSN's trade bait list, so I was looking at how that would work out. Otherwise, I would've thought they would definitely keep him. They may have posted the trade bait article before knowing about the Allen trade though.