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willdevine

willdevine
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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27, 2018 at 5:30 p.m.
Thread: signing william nylander and trading nikita zaitzsev amp connor brown
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willdevine</b></div><div>thats fair. think my reasoning behind murphy, is really more or less getting justin holl into the lineup. i like how zaitzsev can play in his own end, and he has been reliable this year for that, but we both know how much babs loves puck moving defensemen who are right handed. so having said that, having justin holl in the lineup along side another puck moving defensemen in ron haisney, gives us a bit more skill on the back-end. i will admit, its tough trying to trade this contract and get the value right. safe to say an nhl gm job is nowhere in my future lol</div></div>

I'd say its a safe bet that no one posting on here has a good chance of ever being an NHL gm. I think if Zaitsev needs to be traded, it'll be to a bottom dwelling team that'll send a B prospect and a 3rd rounder for Zaitsev. It won't be a good trade because Zaitsev will hold more value than the package coming back but since the Leafs want to move him only for cap space, they'll have to take a loss to gain the space which isn't the worst thing. Really of all the "bad" contracts out there, 4.5 million for an average right handed defenceman isn't at all an albatross.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27, 2018 at 5:16 p.m.
Thread: signing william nylander and trading nikita zaitzsev amp connor brown
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>willdevine</b></div><div>zaitsev was touted as a fantastic passer from the KHL and the leafs haven't seen any glimpse of that since coming over. zaitsevs contract is one of the worst in hockey, you have to stack value and retain salary in order to move a contract like that. also, chicago already is a disaster on defence, so giving them a young d prospect in lillegren, with boqvist already in their system, they can start building for the future post duncan and seabrook, also zaitszev gives the blackhawks options to experiment with their d. the leafs on the other hand, get to utilize justin holl, who can actually move the puck effectively, have calle rosen and/or rasmus sandin (who i think is better than liljegren, now) in the system ready for next years team, connor murphy back from injury, who is a former first round pick.</div></div>

kind of seems like TO is giving a lot to Chicago and not getting much back in return. Liljegren is the Leafs top prospect currently, I'd want way more in return than Murphy who is just an average middle paid defenceman. Those are not hard to obtain and really are a low risk high reward type of addition. I am not against moving Zaitsev but there are definitely teams who'd be willing to take his contract on for way less than this package.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 27, 2018 at 5:02 p.m.
Thread: signing william nylander and trading nikita zaitzsev amp connor brown
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>In what universe is Connor Murphy worth more than at the very most a 2nd round pick? Liljegren is a 1st rounder from 2 seasons ago who was supposed to be a top 2 pick until Mono derailed his draft year. Now before you mention Zaitsev being a cap dump, someone would take him for a lot less than this. Player for player Murphy isn't better than Zaitsev, they are both 2nd or 3rd pair defenceman.</div></div>

Let’s be honest, most leaf acgms are ridiculous. This is at least someone willing to pay reasonable prices. Murphy isn’t the right target, but I’m also not sold that liljigren is a blue chip prospect. I think he and Zaitsev could be the start of a package to get a reliable d man