Sep 21, 2019
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Glendening isn't the type of dead weight I would want to cut, he's actually one of the best in the league for what he does. Great work ethic, penalty killer, he's basically elite as far as bottom six players go. He's on a great contract, and he's a hometown kid with a great story of how he got here. That to me is worth a lot. That being said, I don't know how even I could turn down a 2nd for him. He wouldn't be my first person I look to trade, he's not part of the problem, let's just say that. That being said, I doubt we would get a 2nd for him. A 3rd is more realistic I think, and for that it's not worth it to me. I would be happy to move Helm for a 3rd, even retaining his 50%, and I think it's possible that it actually happens. I don't like the Nielsen trade, though. Don't get me wrong, Nielsen is horrible and I want him gone just as much as the next guy, but in no way is it worth it to trade away a 2nd and a 3rd just to get rid of him. His contract is horrible but isn't really an issue right now, and picks are our top priority. I would rather just buy him out in the summer then trade away two high picks. I actually don't hate the signings. I think the RFA ones are solid and would be happy with all those. I think if we could get Mantha and Bert down to around $5.5M or lower that would be a win, but I think these are fair. I think Lindstrom is a solid 3rd pairing guy to slot in behind Hronek and Seider instead of signing DeMelo. It would be a super young blue line, but we're a young team. I'm not a big Galchenyuk fan and I doubt he would want to come here, but if we get Lafreniere or anywhere in the top three that's his spot gone anyway. I really like the Greiss signing, I've been a fan of that all year. As I said, I would rather buyout Nielsen, then we can just sit Abby in the pressbox for the rest of his deal. As the cap increases it will be more manageable, and at least Abby is a great guy off the ice who does a lot for the community and is a homegrown guy, which is more than we can say for Nielsen. He's not an NHL player, but Nielsen is horrible too, and given the choice to buyout Nielsen or Abby, Nielsen is gone 10/10 times for me. Overall very solid, one of the better ones ive seen on here imo. Don't really like the Gourde trade. I'm open to taking a cap dump for picks IF the deal expires this summer. I don't really want to have Gourde, Abdelkader, and Nielsen all on the same time for the next few years. Gourde is definitely better than Nielsen and Abdelkader, but definitely not worth his contract. And to get him we are giving up Hirose, who is an actual prospect, and are only moving up probably 10 spots. Not worth it in my eyes, this is a clear win for TB. I like the AA trade, and most people on this site have agreed that it's probably a pretty fair deal. Me personally I wouldn't move Glendening for a 4th. Glendening is probably one of the best players in the NHL for what he does, he's a great example for the young kids with is work ethic as well as being a leader in the locker room, and a great hometown kid story. And he's on a very team friendly deal, and his next deal probably will be as well. I wouldn't give that up for a measly 4th round pick that statistically speaking will most likely never pan out to anything. Don't really like the Perlini trade either, as Benn is a UFA this summer. If we really wanted him, just wait till July and sign him then, why trade an asset for him at the deadline? If we trade Perlini which im very open to do so, either make it for picks or in a package deal in some other trade. I like most of your contracts, all the important ones at least. Mantha will probably get closer to $6M, and I would prefer to not give him a bridge deal. He's 25 years old. Let's lock him up long-term, hes as a big a part of this core as anybody. Also IMO Stutzle/Rossi > Raymond. They both have 1C potential, which obviously Raymond does not. Just my opinion on your moves, take it for what its worth. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>What's your source on that? From NHL.com I got this:
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
<strong>* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).</strong>
But not once are players on ELC's mentioned in the rules. Curious where you're getting this information from.</div></div>
It's literally right there. All first and second year NHL players are exempt. AHL years don't count. So this is Zadina's first year as a NHLer, next year will be his 2nd. Then the draft is that summer, 2021. At that time, Zadina will only have played two seasons in the NHL, therefor he is exempt. I believe the confusion is in "professionals", because technically professional starts when you play in the AHL. On NHL.com were you looking at the one from Vegas' draft? Cause the one I'm looking at was from dec. 4 2018 talking specifically about Seattle, and is identical except from this part:
* All first- and second-year NHL players, and all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward protection limits.
Key word now being "NHL players". He is exempt, I promise you.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I have Stutzel above Raymond because he can play center. What about Askarov and Drysdale? I ask because those are the 2 positions that need the most work.</div></div>
I have Stutzle above Raymond as well, as I have basically all year. I think his numbers don't lie, and as you said, the fact he could play center really intrigues me. I'm not a fan of drafting goalies anywhere in lottery picks, especially our top 4 pick, so that eliminates Askarov for me. Even though he's a really special prospect, goaltenders can come out of the 3rd or 4th round and be studs as well, a lot more often than players can. I would love Drysdale if he was a lefty and still can't completely eliminate us from picking him at 4th, but we already have Seider and Hronek on that right side. And yes goaltender and defense do need a lot of work, but I think we need at least one or more high end players at literally every position, so I don't think we should draft based on position, and for me that bumps Askarov and Drysdale out of the top 4.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DocArin0</b></div><div>Multiple scouting sites have said with extreme confidence that Askarov is the next Generation goaltender & their has not been a Goaltender this good in a draft since Carey Price. Whom i would say worked out pretty well for MTL.
Per HockeyWrites Craig Button <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/new-goaltenders-led-by-yaroslav-askarov/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://thehockeywriters.com/new-goaltenders-led-by-yaroslav-askarov/</a>
"Askarov is no ordinary goaltending prospect. TSN Director of Scouting, Craig Button, believes that the netminder, among others, could challenge Alexis Lafreniere for the number one spot come draft day in June 2020. With all of the talent in the draft, I think that it will be difficult for Askarov to go first overall, but he’s definitely a top-10, possibly top-five, pick."
Another site i am not to familiar with calling him potentially the best Russian Goalie prospect ever <a href="https://www.beerleagueheroes.com/2020-nhl-draft-profile-yaroslav-askarov-the-best-russian-goalie-prospect-ever/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.beerleagueheroes.com/2020-nhl-draft-profile-yaroslav-askarov-the-best-russian-goalie-prospect-ever/</a>
Another site calling him better than Spencer Knight (WHom went 13th in 2019) and again praising him. <a href="https://puckprose.com/2019/08/03/2020-nhl-draft-prospect-jan-mysak-outshines-jaromir-jagr/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://puckprose.com/2019/08/03/2020-nhl-draft-prospect-jan-mysak-outshines-jaromir-jagr/</a></div></div>
I have no doubt he's an outstanding goaltender prospect, and is going to be a star goalie in the league for a long time. I still think it's pretty reasonable to think he's available at 8-10. There is still few teams I could see drafting him in the top five. This draft is too deep. Again, it's nothing on Askarov, it's just why use a top five/top ten pick when you can draft a few goalies in the later rounds, and let them develop into great starters. Binnington, Shesterkin, there's literally too many to name. And Button's high if he thinks he's challenging Lafreniere for 1OA. That was written back before the season started though, I'm sure he wouldn't say that now. Maybe if he had a stronger world juniors, he could be solidified in that mid top ten range, but I think 8-9-10 is right where he will go. Just my opinion.