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Armchair-GM
Apr. 10 at 12:30 a.m.
Thread:
Looking at 2-years ahead
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>thats an interesting contract for necas.</div></div>
Screwed up - he's indeed likely signing a Caufield type of contract (7 years x 7.75M)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>reelnb</b></div><div>I'm not even going to bother commenting on the value
I don't get why the Habs crowd on here is so obsessed with Anton Lundell. If you're going to trade so much for him, why is he on the 4th line?</div></div>
Value is there taking comps like Fiala.
It's a two-yrs out post, so you also need to factor in Dvorak who will be in a contract renewal year. He likely fetches you another 2nd + late pick on top of the 1st + 2nd already provided.
That's more than Fiala (as Faber wasn't a known thing at the time of the deal)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas is going to make around what Caufield makes, and that isn't even close for his trade value. *Maybe* if you sent the Habs pick, with it likely top 10, the Canes would have interest, but otherwise, this gets laughed at</div></div>
That was a mistake of me doing Lundell/Necas contracts quickly on my phone, but yes 7x7.75M.
Lundell going on the 4th is just a testament of the team depth if those moves happen. This isn't the 24/25 habs, this is a projection of the 25/26 team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 7, 2022 at 2:29 a.m.
Thread:
Starting lineup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Hahaha, thought about it....I think for PHI it covers while Couturier is out or Morgan Frost can't deliver, but MTL would have to add something really. a 4th and 5th. Its really a move PHI doesn;t have to make, but Dvorak and Scott Laughton can both play C or LW, and if Dvorak can rebound, maybe PHI moves him for more, but MTL would jump on that offer at the moment.</div></div>
Oh my, at first I thought you mentioned Mtl sending Dvorak + FLO's 1st (in '23, which they have) in exchange for future considerations. I did not realize that Philly had FLO's 1st next year.
Am sure the Habs could attach one of their 4th rounders (3) this year to facilitate such a trade, which probably makes sense now considering Couturier's injury.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread:
Boeser and Gallagher
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>Norlinder by far the best prospect in the system right now after Romanov on D. Harris is probably 4th or 5th on the Dman prospect depth chart....</div></div>
Damn I forgot about him! haha good catch
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:41 p.m.
Thread:
Boeser and Gallagher
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks33</b></div><div>There's nothing from Montreal that interests me enough to trade Boeser. We need a young stud RHD back and there isn't one here.</div></div>
See this is where I hesitated between including Harris (our highest D prospect after Romanov and Guhle) instead of Ylonen. Not sure if that would skew the deal to your liking? Next year's draft is said to be defense heavy so that 1st round pick should help
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 14, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
Thread:
Boeser and Gallagher
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzad96</b></div><div>Trade is fair value IMO, probably even an overpay if you guarantee a gallagher resign. Just can't see why VAN would trade Boeser.</div></div>
That's what I went for actually. There is no reason in hell Vancouver should be moving Boeser in my opinion, but apparently management is trying to sooo!
So with that in mind, Montreal here gets a guy that will be their 1RW for years to come. At the expense of a low end 1RW (Gallagher), a 3rd liner that drives the play (supposedly enquired often by other teams around the league) in Lehkonen, a recent early 2nd rounder RW with NHL speed that performed well internationally against his peers in Ylonen.
Ylonen has been overshadowed by Romanov's progression but remains a legit prospect nevertheless.
And then the part that can be negotiated I guess is the 1st round pick. If it's really an overkill maybe a 2nd would suffice? Or 2 x 2nds?
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 18, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.
Thread:
Draft and FA moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>If you want AA can come up with a reasonable deal but your thought process towards jp is way tooo far off to even begin a conversation.</div></div>
The ramblings have always been Edmonton wants a 2nd rounder for him. Apparently no team has ever stepped to the plate to date for that price tag.
The logic was:
AA is better than Lehkonen, but is pricer and remains under team control for 1 less year. Both guys put up similar-ish numbers (Lehkonen is obviously not as good).
So including a 2nd rounder (GMs seeing it as an overpay) + a wild card in Hudon (AHLer, 13th forward, or could put up 30pts in the NHL again under a different system.) for Puljujarvi on top of cap space seemed close enough.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 18, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread:
Draft and FA moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>When did AA's qualifying offer get that high????????</div></div>
That's what I saw go on Twitter. Either way, apparently the Oilers are shopping him to avoid a cap hit they can't afford.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 28, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
Thread:
OEL to the Habs amp Domi to BUF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsRafiki</b></div><div>Domi's not value?</div></div>
Domi for 8OA would be a stretch. The value is there, but the team might not be willing to pull the trigger.
Then that 2nd rounder in 2022 would be highly valuable to a competing Habs team not wanting to dispose of all of their picks while going on a run.
Those two things are why taking on Okposo (hoping he turns it around in Mtl) for 3 years at $4M is the price to pay to "entice" Buffalo to make the move.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 28, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.
Thread:
OEL to the Habs amp Domi to BUF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsRafiki</b></div><div>I like the OEL deal, but Okposo deal doesn't make sense to either team. Buffalo has a ton of cap space and doesn't have an obvious replacement for him yet. And why would the Habs want to park Okposo in a 4th-line situation for FOUR YEARS just to watch him get older and slower? The 8th pick would be nice and possibly worth trading Domi for that, but not if it means taking back $16M in contract baggage.</div></div>
It's actually 3 years. This is basically to get more size at RW which has been noted as an issue on top of giving value back to Buffalo for obtaining those picks.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 28, 2020 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread:
OEL to the Habs amp Domi to BUF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>While ARI really needs picks after their penalty, that offer is quite poor for their best D-man.
BUF might consider taking that, but without retention.</div></div>
Define poor. A young Dman that's top 10 in the D under 22 years old is poor? He might not be putting up huge numbers yet, but a lot of so called prospects that people would value higher than Mete have yet to prove their ability to play in the league.
Poehling has had a bad year, but is still a recent WCJ MVP and has 2C potential. Lots of analysts see his floor as a reliable two-way 3C.
Both fit with the age group of the new core. On top of that 16OA + 55/56OA are key for a team trying to get picks and get younger.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>BUF trade is easy no, they need talent on ELC’s not mercurial players who aren’t as good as they think.
AZ trade is interesting but they aren’t going to trade OEL AND retain money.</div></div>
It's been reported they don't to pick at 8th once again for the 10th year. 8th is on the table for an offensive 2C, which is what Domi is.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>How would you explain those trades?
I think Mete and Poehling have little value. So I think the offer you made might get you Dvorak alone, but not both.
The Buffalo one is interesting, but if they can draft at 8, they have the possibility to have a guy around for 3 years at a minimal contract who can produce like a 5m player, so I'd rather keep Okposo, but the offer is kind of fair. I just would not make that deal if I were buffalo</div></div>
Let's agree to disagree on Mete & Poehling's values.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 19, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SkatinTintin</b></div><div>Why would you help a team in our division. They're heading for cap hell, let them.
You give a top 4 defenseman in Mete for Montour who's a bottom pair d-man.
You give a top 6 forward for a very uncertain prospect and a huge cap dumb.
Giving too much for too little in my opinion</div></div>
I think this is where we disagree. I see Montour as a 3RD (i.e. Petry's replacement) and that's why I would extend him 7 years at $5.5M AAV given the chance.
His situation clearly reeks him stuck on a bad team as Petry was. I see Montour has a guy that will lock the 3RD spot and provide 25-40 pts per year for the next 7 years.
Mete is younger, but likely tops out as a 3LD in his best years producing in the 20-35 pts range while being smaller than Montour. So that's an upgrade for Mtl.
Domi's value is around what 8th overall + a small add would be, which is why I think that by "lowering" the value of that 8th OA pick through a retained Okposo (Habs need a 4th line RW anyway), that a package of Domi + a late 1st could entice them to throw Mittelstadt into the mix.
Again, I see Mittelstadt as a guy that could have a resurgence and somehow could become the centerpiece of this whole trade if he somehow turns into a 55-70 pts guy a la Domi but again, with more size if he can put on some more muscles (he's only 21 afterall.) If not, i'm more than content in that trade to have him become a reliable 3rd line 35-50 pts guy.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 19, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.
Thread:
Offseason moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SkatinTintin</b></div><div>was the goal to have Buffalo fleece us? Because that's what you did</div></div>
Not how I personally see it.
This year's draft is quite deep. Buffalo's 1st will be one of Perfetti, Sanderson, Holtz, Raymond, Askarov, or Rossi.
I also believe that Mittelstadt could turn things around and become Mtl's 3C / 2LW eventually (With KK & Suzuki at 1 & 2C) with heavy PP usage.
So if on top of that you get Jeff Petry's replacement Montour signed for 7 years. That's a lot of great pieces coming Mtl's way.
Just like Buffalo fixes their 2C problem for many years to bring along Cozens more smoothly. And strengthen their LD side with Mete sliding in behind Dahlin on the left side for the next decade. They'd be one of the best Dcorp at transitions in the league on the left side.
You have to give to get.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Feb. 20, 2020 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
(MTL/PIT) - Barber, Varone for Blandisi, Lucchini
This is a character move.
There was growing discontent from Barber & Varone who were hoping to get a shot at the NHL this year with the Habs but haven't gotten it. Reports were coming that they were getting sidelined in the AHL due to their "attitude" impacting the team.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:56 p.m.
Thread:
Real value of guys who are often traded in leafs AGMs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Think of players on other teams who play on top 2 lines....then compare to Toronto's top 2 lines.
Usually what happens is people just like to under value players on the Leafs top lines...why? I don't know...the hate? Of course it gets passed off as unbiased.</div></div>
Remind me what Maroon got for playing a top 6 role? A 3rd. Those depth guys aren't worth nearly as much as you think.
Bracco? If his value is that high, how come Charles Hudon hasn't returned a 2nd + yet? Cause Hudon >> Bracci, and Hudon is worth a 5th at best.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2020 at 5:59 p.m.
Thread:
My approach to the TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Tatars trade should have a 1st not a 2nd.
Petrys trade is interesting, the value is fair only question would be if Tampa wanted to send a contract so they free up a little more space for next year.</div></div>
Tatar`s trade is already a 1st (Poulin) + 2nd + 3rd (Galchenyuk) which was his previous selling price from Detroit to Vegas. My thinking is the 2nd upgrades to a first only they go deep into the playoffs or resign him.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
Thread:
My approach to the TDL
They have great depth at every positions moving forward, but they still lack some of that elite talent coming up the pipeline.
Many are of the opinion that one last big draft to shore up the prospect pool could be the key to long-term competitiveness for the team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread:
Cup Run Trades
Highly unprobable for that Montreal trade. The best player of the bunch is Drouin, and Kovalchuk is producing better than the 3 guys included as well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 24, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Petry trade seems heavily weighted to MTL, AVs deal might be fair but MTL should get more. The Thompson one seems fair. Kovy we'll see if he keeps it up to the deadline, but yeah that could happen.</div></div>
Krebs is a bit of a gamble still to this stage because of the injury. That's why I factored in the risk, and the expectations that the 1st obtained in the trade will likely end up a late late one.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 24, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>Vegas won't send another TOP KID to MTL... not even for Petry that they need.
Maybe they would sacrifice Tuch who don't have much ice time as he should... so Tuch + 1st for Petry + 2nd.</div></div>
Honestly if the deal included Tuch and a 1st, i would take that over Krebs + 1st.
Montreal needs size and a guy like Tuch with more offensive flair than Armia would do wonders.
Tuch + 1st for Petry retained 50% & Boston's 2nd in that scenario would do? (Or habs' 3rd if not.)
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 2, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.
Thread:
Sign amp trade SJS Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pinslack</b></div><div>Interesting trade
I wouldn't give up on Kulak and Byron yet. If Kulak finds his rhythm he's a bargain, and I doubt a 29 y/o UFA like Dillon will sign a bargain contract.
Karlsson provides 0 offense, he might only be there because of his cap hit. Byron's contract isnt a bargain, but I'm not scared yet that this will be a bad contract. He needs to find his rhythm like Kulak.</div></div>
Yeah so the way I saw it is:
Karlsson is in there for cap space reasons. All likelihood he gets a 4-5 games look & gets swapped with Poehling.
Byron has become expandable with the kids coming up, there's just no room moving forward for him unless you want to hold back the Poehling, Evans, Caufield, Ylonen, etc.
And the reasoning is to have Dillon sign a 4 (or probably 5) years extension. Something around 5 years, 20M that is frontloaded (easier to trade later on if need be.)
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 19, 2019 at 1:36 p.m.
Thread:
Byron Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Where was it confirmed that the asking price was a 3rd for Honka?
Or is it just theres been so many CapFriendly ACGMs where Honka is traded for a 3rd affirm that's what the ask for him is from Dallas management?? lol</div></div>
I believe it is Bob Mckenzie that said so on TSN. Team used to ask for a 2nd round pick during the summer, now the price has dropped to a 3rd rounder and will likely end up somewhere around a 4th once it's all said and done.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 2, 2019 at 11:18 a.m.
Thread:
My lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Ok, but Weal is 10 times better thab McCarron</div></div>
Yes. But Weal isn't meant for a 4th line role. He's a Daniel Carr 2.0, a guy that is skilled such that he should play on the top 6 to be effective, but that isn't as skilled as your other top 6 guys so he'll never be in that spot.
McCarron is much better suited for a 4th line "Boyle-type role" that Weal is.
Claude Julien loves a reliable sandpaper 4th line that can kill off penalties and chip in here and there.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 25, 2019 at 1:16 a.m.
Thread:
Frolik Puljujarvi vs cap space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Treize131</b></div><div>Going to have to respectfully disagree.
Other GMs know that we're in this situation so Tre does not have much to bargain with at this time. A deal like this is what we can expect and it's also what we might end up needing depending on how long it takes for Valimaki to get back up to speed. Recovery is one thing but players that miss large chunks of time from the season often don't really get back to 100% until the following season. Reilly is a serviceable defenseman with a low cap hit that can perhaps push Kylington and whoever else they bring on via PTO.</div></div>
Good take. A lot of individuals right now don't seem to notice how heavy of a cap crunch there is around the league. Once we get closer to training camps & all of the RFAs are signed & some of the remaining UFAs get signed to low deals, you'll have maybe 4-6 teams with 4-7M in cap space, and then there will be 10+ teams looking at offloading players like Frolik to get all of their guys in.
In a vacuum, Frolik is usually worth more. But under this context this is a very fair deal. CLG drops two rounds in the draft, and in exchange they get a guy that's younger, can play a few games in the top 4, and that's under contract for an extra year. (Which in this case, could be burried in full.)
Montreal does this because that's buying early on a TDL guy, and gives them an option to move him later in the season at retained salary for a team looking to make a push or to keep him as their own rental.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 24, 2019 at 2:25 p.m.
Thread:
Opening night night if Marner has not signed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>They still have Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Kerfoot, Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Rielly, Muzzin and Barrie. They are great team with and without Marner. Hopefully Marner is there for a whole year, but if not, they are fine.</div></div>
People need to realize that Kerfoot is a significant downgrade on Kadri though. I get the Toronto media propaganda. But he's not the kind of player that will drive the play from the 3rd line.
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 24, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
Thread:
Opening night night if Marner has not signed
This roster does not make the playoffs with the strengthening of the Atlantic. Heck, they are a single injury to Andersen away to be not even in the conversation for a WC spot.
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