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Forum: NHLMar. 8 at 3:42 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Vlasic was a DFD when the game was much slower in the early 10's. The game has massively evolved and that's why he regressed as much as he did. He's similar to Alzner who went from a good top 4, to our of the NHL within 2 years. The game simply evolved past him. You do bring up a good point about Hertl's knee surgery, but he's never been a fast player and his game has never revolved around his speed.</div></div>

Speed has been apart of Hertls game just not in the way of foot speed and when you say it doesn’t your simply wrong.

Hertl is a play driver. He forces his way through puck battles physically and wins battles and his foot work and speed helps him often. He’s not fast like a Kyrou, not even close to fast. But his play stule heavily revolves around his movement ability and strength on his skates. He needs to have fast footwork and edges and be strong on his feet. And he often uses what speed he has to help drive plays down the wall and in tight to force defenders to either break or commit and then try’s to win the 1on1 battle.
Forum: NHLMar. 8 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Its an identity thing man. We all know how this story ends</div></div>

Believing the cycle will never end is part of the problem tho no?
I think they’re close.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Lul have u not been watching Sammy?

The man's rebound candidate of the year

Was sent down came back 1 week later and has taken the net back

He's 11-2 last 13 games

Beating out WPG twice, NYR, AVS, DAL

Of the 4 meetings in BOS was only in net once where he lost in a SO but this was before his new found confidence so will leave that. But hes been good as of late

Its his net. And in the playoffs its a whole different game and if Bertuzzi and Domi do what they did last time they in for some fun


And its not CAR to lose as they dont have a goalie. One went on waivers, one's been out for so long, and the other guy gets hot and cold.</div></div>

He’s also been the worst goalie for the half the year so betting that his brief hot streak will weigh the same as the first half isn’t a good bet.

It’s about using the money elsewhere.

Also it’s never good to say; eh their goaltending isn’t great so we are fine with our “okay” goaltending too.
Forum: NHLMar. 7 at 9:37 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
I think Grier has done a fantastic job with the Duclair trade.

1) basically two thirds (equal to Tarasenko) - a good RD prospect for SJ which needs RD; and he’s 21 so he’ll have a lot of time to grow in SJ and the best pick they could get from Tampa realistically.

2) Duke has consistently voiced interest in SJ and while their being no deal on the table (obviously) he said in the last 24hrs he would return to SJS in the offseason is they would have him and if there was no deal out there for him.

3) ..I actually don’t think Duclair will stay in Tampa so it would come down to a new front runner to give Duclair a UFA deal.

4) And Grier has voiced recently not waning long term expensive UFA’s which means: IF DUKE was to resign in SJ

- Duke will return to a deal that’s probably 2-4 years
- At an AAV of probably 4.5-3.75m

So if the stars align for a Duclair in Teal - we could see Thompson, a 3rd for Duclair to return at a 4 years - 4mAAV deal.

Which would make an already great deal by Grier - even more incredible.
Forum: NHLMar. 6 at 8:08 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Casey has played a lot of LD in both juniors and NCAA (and center!). I don’t think he is as blocked as many think. If he is one of six best, he will play.</div></div>

Respectfully- it is very funny you say this, when literally right above there’s a small engage about how having line imbalance is odd. No issues just funny lol.

I personally, don’t have a horse in the NJD race, but you do so there will always be a bias.

It’s not just about being one of the 6 best. It’s about balance.
Ottawa is literally dealing with this exact problem, and it is not working for them despite having 4 very good defenders.
(1RD, Zub - 3LD, Sanderson Chabot Chychrun)

LHughes - LOCKED LD, top pp time probably some PK too maybe I’m guessing? Probably 20+ career TOI for the future

Hamilton - Costs you nearly 10 mil, and he’s good, he will not be playing 18min&gt; a night LOCKED RD

Nemec - legitimately has a case to be the best drafted prospect in the league by some professional accounts, RD LOCKED - will also require special teams time if he is this good

Dougie LHughes Nemec all sharing PP time (FULL)
LH, Nemec probably get PK time for their future careers to bolster their development into cup winning d men.

Now we have Sieg taking 2LD and Marino taking “3rd” RD.
Marino isn’t bad but Probably would cost to trade to no? I’ve seen discourse around him.

Sieg is a solid defensive oriented player (isn’t he having a rough year?, can’t recall).
Both are “technically young” at 26 and locked in with deals.

So yeah he could be your 2LD but that offside and offside is not a perfect situation (we can look at Byram, he’s right there!!) unless he steals jobs which is good but that means a job is lost by someone else.

I’m talking perfect world here; devils wants

LHughes - Honestly, Nemec : elite pairing
Sieg - Hamilton : let hamtilon let loose
LD - RD : DZone oriented
(Marino currently that RD)

My rational here is you do not want Hamilton playing 3rd pair unless Casey is so good you’re trading him but you’re realistically hoping Casey is Hamilton level so that would almost be a step backwards for the Devils. And you do not want Casey to be a 3rd pair guy forever.

My only logic for the Devils is Casey’s value is arguably the highest it will ever be, not everyone is going to play like Nemec does when they step in.

Maybe Casey does… but upgrade your goaltending, upgrading depth somewhere like Defensive D or Defensive Forward or scoring depth, and maybe even another asset with 1 prospect.

Ottawa trades Chabot for Saros
Saros for Casey
Nash gets Chabot
(Literally an example of a framework)

I’m not saying the Devils can’t keep Casey and wait it out… I’m not saying Saros is available; just saying wouldn’t it be smart to explore. I want the Devils to succeed nearly as much as a Devils fan.


Don’t care for seeing a VGK 2-3 peat or another COL cup. Would be nice to see a new winner.