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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>8-4-4 this year with Timmins (better pts % than the team has on the season), 17-7-1 last year. Has scored at a 40 point pace in his Leafs tenure.
Not saying Timmins is some super valuable piece, but he's not nothing.
Haven't said a word about Abruzzese.
That Robertson take is pure speculation that has kind of been disproven because we already know of one team that had/has significant interest in him.
Plus you've got Niemela and a 5th in there...</div></div>
He had 9 points in 8 games last season, that like saynig Zadorov is a 14 goal scorer so his value should be higher when really he was average with a hatrick in game 82. As mentioned, he had a flash in the pan and has gone back to exactly the player that was traded for Curtis Douglas.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 2:02 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>Well, your points about Niemela looking significantly better in Europe than in the AHL and the Leafs not winning when Timmins plays are just straight up falsehoods.
Robertson not fitting with the Flames is fine, never argued he did. But to call the package "low-value" "spare parts" and "leftovers" is crazy.
From a pure value standpoint, that package outstrips Tanev's worth.</div></div>
What's their record with Timmins in the line up this year?
Abruzzese and Timmins are scraps, Robertson has more value in Toronto than in a trade because I don't think anyone around the league sees him as a piece they want to add to their line up at the expense of a valuable trade chip.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:44 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>This is wild.</div></div>
Same question then.
Just try justify the pieces:
Niemela - Good enough piece, looked significantly better in Europe than the AHL.
Robertson - In a system with Pelletier, Zary, Pospisil, Honzek, Coronato, Draft picks etc. all filling up the wings, where does Robertson fit? Especially when the Flames lack a ton of size already.
Timmins - Really bad at hockey, Leafs don't win when he plays, he had a flash in the pan last season after the trade and now he's back to exactly who the Coyotes thought he was.
Abruzzese - Flames lose him free agent before he does anything, why not just let the Leafs lose him for nothing next season?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:44 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>No the first can easily be a better player then both it makes zero sense for this team to trade the first this year they aren’t winning anything</div></div>
Well then the NHL GM's must think exactly the same right? Just try justify the pieces:
Niemela - Good enough piece, looked significantly better in Europe than the AHL.
Robertson - In a system with Pelletier, Zary, Pospisil, Honzek, Coronato, Draft picks etc. all filling up the wings, where does Robertson fit? Especially when the Flames lack a ton of size already.
Timmins - Really bad at hockey, Leafs don't win when he plays, he had a flash in the pan last season after the trade and now he's back to exactly who the Coyotes thought he was.
Abruzzese - Flames lose him free agent before he does anything, why not just let the Leafs lose him for nothing next season?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:30 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>It’s not happening the max they pay is niemela robo Timmins Abruzzese and the flames 5th for an unretained tanev</div></div>
Niemela is fine but his development is a rollercoaster, Timmins is terrible, Robertson doesn't fit anywhere in the Flames pipeline and Abruzzese is going to be a ufa after next season. That's such a low value package it's insane. Its a bunch of spare parts that Leafs fans don't want so they keep adding them in packages pretending there is value. Why would other teams want Leafs leftovers?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:22 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>If it were up to me, it's a hard no from the Leafs. Wouldn't even do the 1st, let alone adding Tverberg.</div></div>
If the Leafs acquire Tanev I bet the 1st is involved because their prospects are not good and they have no other picks that would fit the deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:21 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Leafs aren’t paying a first for tanev if they were gonna they woulda already done it we’ve seen the flames selling early, if it costs a first to do business with the flames they’ll look elsewhere, im sure brad would like to be the gm for longer then 9 months lol</div></div>
Don't think that's true at all, why would the Flames take the first package they see involving a 1st pre-deadline? Also why would the Leafs offer a 1st off the hop without feeling out what they have, now they're in a position where the D needs clear upgrades because the roster is full of mushy AHL/NHL tweeners. If the Leafs want Tanev I bet it will be a 1st round pick because the pipeline sucks and they have no 2nd's
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 10 at 1:09 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canesfan21_</b></div><div>I thought Hanifin wanted to be on the east coast</div></div>
All fairly speculative. I haven't necessarily heard that but definitely could be a thing. Vegas is kind of a players haven though, can't be that hard to convince a 26 year old to live in Vegas for 8 years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:53 a.m.
Thread:
ZADOROV WILL BE LEAF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rajvinder</b></div><div>I love the Calgary bafoons like yycofred trying to pretend it's just "Toronto Media" when his agent has literally gone public with a trade request.
Dude is going wherever he wants. Nobody will trade for a player who put in a trade request without knowing he wants to come and Calgary can't keep him unless they also want to risk destroying the room and having a media circus around them.
If his list is just Toronto which it seems like it is per numerous insiders then he will go to Toronto pretty cheap.</div></div>
I genuinely wonder if this is your first season of watching hockey. He’s not James Harden?! This isn’t the NBA l. The flames literally did this with Bennett four years ago. Everything you said here was dumb.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:26 a.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>future_gm</b></div><div>Sucks to be Calgary, everyone wants out, first Backlund ( ended up resigning ) Lindholm isn't so sure about staying. PPG Toffoli got moved for bag of chips. Gaudreau/Tkachuk both left. Mangiapane got that Calgary tax on his deal ( 5.8x3). Got forced to pay a 1st rounder to dump Monahan. Gave Huberdeau 8x10.5 he sill can play up to that contract tho. The whole Sutter situation and how toxic he was. Hanifin maybe leaving too. Dube Hockey Canada 2018 too we don't know yet.</div></div>
Meh, could be Edmonton! Even if they’re hockey team end up better which it will, they still have to wake up in Edmonton every day!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>future_gm</b></div><div>I guess the Retool/Rebuild is on in Calgary</div></div>
God we can only hope! They have a ton of cap coming up and a bunch of good pieces, they could turn it around quick
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread:
Zadorov
Which part is comparable to Lyubushkin?? The Russian part??
https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_compare.php?players%5B%5D=4797&players%5B%5D=3890&period=2023-2024%3AR%3A99
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:04 a.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>future_gm</b></div><div>Oof. I'd imagine he fetch a 1st. ( don't think teams will pay this price at this point of the season )</div></div>
I personally think a 1st is a bit of a stretch straight up. It would be an unreal return for a guy who’s going to be 29 negotiating his next deal and looking for term. If Calgary retains and takes some money back a first isn’t out of the question. He also doesn’t have trade protection so Calgary could look to more teams for a potential hockey trade as opposed to picks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:02 a.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>future_gm</b></div><div>Why are there suddenly so many Zadorov mock trades? Did he request one?</div></div>
Agent came out and said Zadorov isn’t happy with ice time, Weekes, Lebrun, Chris Johnston all confirmed he requested a trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:45 p.m.
Thread:
ZADOROV WILL BE LEAF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad_Treliving</b></div><div>At the same time, what if Conroy asked him? Players may have zero say, even with no clauses, but at the same time, you try to do right by the player</div></div>
I doubt that. Similar to what someone said about Campbell yesterday, AHL is full of nice guys. GM’s are trying to maximize their assets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>You just make so much darned sense, I just can’t remove my emotions over the matter. I was hoping we could lock him in to be our 3LD long-term and for cheap
At least we got Gilbert & Solovyov</div></div>
Left side is in good hands and I think they reproach Hanifin. Weegar/Hanifin/Poirier/Solovyov/DeSimone/Gilbert/Kuznetsov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:41 p.m.
Thread:
ZADOROV WILL BE LEAF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad_Treliving</b></div><div>He may have zero say but why would he mention Toronto? I think Conroy asked him about going to Toronto
Also when CJ mentions a team, it usually happens. When Domi and Bert were FA, he never said they were going to Toronto but did mention Leafs had interest</div></div>
It was in a piece a week ago that Treliving checked in. He’s in Toronto…. Media is nuts. The question could have been anything. Hey we heard you requested a trade, playing in the same rink as your former GM, anything there? I’d welcome a move to Toronto. CJ isn’t even quoting anyone in the tweet really.. pretty open ended
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:37 p.m.
Thread:
ZADOROV WILL BE LEAF
Neat. Zadorov has zero say in the matter. It would make sense for the Leafs but I think it would take an overpay at this point for conroy to move a D man with zero trade protection
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
Thread:
Request Granted You Big Beautiful Z
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Yes! Otherwise anywhere that’s not another Canadian Team, especially TOR, if this is actually true and happens
I just can’t believe it 🤦♂️</div></div>
Meh, from his point of view there have been noted conversations with Hanifin and Tanev, Weegar and Andersson aren’t going anywhere, he’s 29 by the time he’s negotiating his next contract, if he wants any hope of maximizing his earning or possibly the off chance he gets an 8 year deal it won’t be in Calgary. Calgary ponying up the type of money Zadorov would want to finish out his career would be crazy talk. Especially if he’s never going to be more than a 4/5 guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.
Thread:
Big Z
Zadorov on his own is tough to justify a first rounder for. If that was on the table I would hope Conroy would have taken that already. Dumping a contract plus the first for Zadorov makes more sense I think
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 11:08 p.m.
Thread:
All signs point
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Zadorov isn't worth a 1st. Remove the first and they is fair.</div></div>
When you’re paying Calgary to take out your garbage he is!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
Thread:
Fix Mistakes
So a first for Tanev. Maybe Timmins for the retention on both and then paying nothing to dump two contracts and acquire Zadorov??
Flames take on 10+ million just to help the Leafs for fun??
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
Thread:
Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Really?! I thought most Flames fans wanted Kadri gone and wolf wasn't preforming up to expectations. I apologize if I misread the situation</div></div>
Even when a ton of flames were having meltdowns about Kadri he was still leading the way in expected goals and creating chances, he was super unlucky and prone to turnovers at the start of the year which was definitely frustrating to watch but he was fine. Beyond that his buyout is suuuppeer palatable in a couple years if need be
Wolf just got called up, hasn’t played but was leading the AHL with 5 wins and had a .924 sv%. Even if he were underperforming to start the season he’s only 22 and the only blue chip prospect the flames have, they’ll give him a huge runway to get his bearings if he needs it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
Thread:
Habs
That flames trade could be more egregious than the one you’re apologizing for.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
Lindy Hates Holtz
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TyeZerker</b></div><div>Oh man when did he even defend? cuz oh boy that man isnt good on that side of things. Wanna bring up advance stats cuz oh boy they dont like him. but iknow you gonna cry about advance stats.</div></div>
Better oiHDCA per 60 than shut down king Sigenthaler as well as Marino, second best oiSA against per 60 on the Devils, lower oiXGA per 60 than half the Devils D core, similar possession numbers to Hughes and Hamilton. One half of a top 20 pair in the league regarding xGA, one half of a top 5 pairing regarding xGA/60.
Did you look before you had your little tantrum or just decided to spew for the heck of it??
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