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Zinner21
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
Thread: Who is better than Nurse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>McDavid does that on over half his points. He may centre his own line and often find offensive success but still the majority of his points come when McDavid is on the ice. On top of that he gives up as much as he creates at 5v5, (that is not completely the case this season but this season is going to be harder to judge). He isn't a top 10 centre let a lone a top 5 player. MacKinnon, Matthews, Eichel, Barkov, Petterson, Schiefele, Crosby, McDavid are all definitely better than Draisaitl unless you only look at points. Which as you mentioned, isn't everything. All of these guys have better 200 foot games or are just better offensively (McDavid). I would be surprised if Draisaitl was a point per game if McDavid wasn't on his team. He's a good player, but his stats are definitely inflated because of McDavid.</div></div>

Scheifeli and barkov are not better than draisaitl. Draisaitl is better when he’s away from Mcdavid.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2021 at 12:20 p.m.
Thread: Who is better than Nurse
At 5v5 scoring, Nurse is a top defenseman.

2017-18: 24 (20th in the NHL)
2018-19: 27 (15th)
2019-20: 26 (7th)
2020-21: 4 (15th)

This year he's taken a distinctive step forward defensively and in his decision making both with and without the puck - and it shows. Here are the 26 defensemen listed above and their GF% rel and xGF% rel so far this year:

Slavin: +37.78 / +10.88
Makar: +32.22 / +20.46
Chabot: +25.88 / +6.91
Hamilton: +20.00 / -0.10
Pulock: +18.55 / +16.32
Nurse: +17.09 / +6.66
Ekman-Larsson: +6.67 / -10.28
Theodore: +5.45 / +7.03
Burns: +3.57 / -1.33
Heiskanen: +1.21 / +3.16
Doughty: +0.76 / +6.30
Klingberg: 0.00 / -3.22
McAvoy: -0.39 / +8.95
Provorov: -1.21 / -3.19
Weber: -1.23 / +6.68
Pietrangelo: -5.45 / -14.17
Ekblad: -5.56 / +4.23
Karlsson: -6.39 / -17.84
Parayko: -11.57 / -8.96
Carlson: -13.92 / -4.78
Hughes: -17.02 / -9.85
Werenski: -17.14 / -2.70
Jones: -18.75 / -14.95
Ellis: -20.78 / +1.95
Morrissey: -22.65 / -3.49
Hedman: -23.23 / -5.40
Josi: -32.39 / +7.40

Nurse is 6th in GF% rel and 9th in xGF rel. Tiny sample size I know, but it does give some indication how well he's been playing this year.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2021 at 10:16 a.m.