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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 9:36 a.m.
Thread: NEED OUTSIDERS PERSPECTIVE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>These are 2 seperate things though. Trading Marner for Leonard straight up isn’t a fair trade. Getting cap space is a bi-product of the move. The trade doesn’t read Mitch Marner for Leonard and 2 UFAs. I get what you’re saying and I agree spreading that 11 million over 2 players makes sense for a winning team. But that has absolutely no effect on Marners value.</div></div>

I am not advocating for a Leonard -&gt; Marner trade. Just want to be clear. But...

Getting cap space is a bi-product of the move and also factors into the value of the trade - just look at all cap dumps over the years...are they fair on paper? No, but teams do it because it generates more cap space, which has so much value, especially in today's NHL.

Just like Marner's value - his value on paper (pure production) is great and should generate a MASSIVE return...but why will he not return the world and then some (like Leafs fans expect) - because he has 11m cap hit and is a rental...cap space has value that factors into every trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: Off-season adjustments
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>I think the organization wants to hold onto McMichael and I do too. He showed some flashes of brilliance this year and I think if you are patient with him, you'll have a 25 goal scorer who can play both ends of the ice and drive possession.

Agree that Strome is staying. If it was Jensen, Lindgren, Cristall, and a first, I would be fine with the trade value wise, but am very concerned about the goalie situation going into the season if they don't do something to address it. Kuemper-Stevenson tandem is worrisome.</div></div>

Yeah I agree - I have no idea how you would fix that either...

Almost like Lindgren is "untouchable" (that word is thrown out there a lot and is rarely true, which is probably the case here, but most likely it would take an incredible offer to trade him)...
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 22 at 10:27 a.m.
Thread: capitals trying to lose in 6 next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Sure, there are other factors. Like Lowry is a proven defensive shutdown center on the best defensive team in the league., while Protas isn't proven at anything.

As I said you can like him, but he's nothing special and he doesn't start a conversation as the main piece for a top 6 forward.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>All_Knowing</b></div><div>Ha - got em...only 35 points? He doesn't produce enough to be a 3rd liner...so by your argument, Lowry is nothing special and has basically no value.

Based on his first full NHL season, at 23 years old, Protas is a solid two-way forward and he proved that this year, especially with his defensive ability. And I never said anything about him being "special" or "starts a conversation as the main piece for a top 6 forward". All I said is that he is definitely not a 13th/14th forward lol

You should get your facts straight about other team's players before giving an opinion. To say he has no value is just wrong.</div></div>

Got em
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 12:37 p.m.
Thread: capitals trying to lose in 6 next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Sure, there are other factors. Like Lowry is a proven defensive shutdown center on the best defensive team in the league., while Protas isn't proven at anything.

As I said you can like him, but he's nothing special and he doesn't start a conversation as the main piece for a top 6 forward.</div></div>

Ha - got em...only 35 points? He doesn't produce enough to be a 3rd liner...so by your argument, Lowry is nothing special and has basically no value.

Based on his first full NHL season, at 23 years old, Protas is a solid two-way forward and he proved that this year, especially with his defensive ability. And I never said anything about him being "special" or "starts a conversation as the main piece for a top 6 forward". All I said is that he is definitely not a 13th/14th forward lol

You should get your facts straight about other team's players before giving an opinion. To say he has no value is just wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 10:10 a.m.
Thread: capitals trying to lose in 6 next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ninchubs</b></div><div>be honest, he’s not very good and he doesn’t even use his 6’6 frame</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yup. When it's a 13th/ 14th forward and some meaningless late round picks.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ninchubs</b></div><div>yeah Protas would easily be in Winnipegs top 9 maybe even 6 but alright</div></div>

First off - you can't say a player is not good and then try to convince others that he would be a top 6 player...

Second - Protas is definitely not a 13th/14th forward haha seems like you don't watch the Caps very often (understandably if you aren't a Caps fan)...but I would do your research before you say an absurd comment like that...
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 9:47 a.m.
Thread: Cheap upgrades and a splash
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sprak</b></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>I don't see CMM signing for less than Protas, even on a bridge. He's the 2C going into next season and everyone knows it</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>Both of these are bad trades for the caps - that's nearly 7M in cap space for two guys who can't finish. Would much rather put together a trade package for Ehlers or Necas and give them that money and leave a spot for Miro in the lineup.</div></div>

Caps don't do either of these trades (thanksfully).

Regarding McM - I also expect a bridge similar to this (maybe a hot take, but I think Protas's contract was slightly high for his play/production).

Regarding McM being 2C - granted, I have not been a big fan of McM (compared to other Caps fans), but I do not see him as a true 2C going into next year. I see Strome as a solid 2C and then McM as a pretty good 3C (same with Lappy). I think the Caps have a major gap at the center position so would hope that they prioritize getting a true 1/2C (if they are trying to compete).