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Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 6:59 p.m.
Thread: Kings 25 if Byfield is extended long term
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imraygbiv</b></div><div>Agreed about Kaliyev, but the cheap UFA winger in the bottom 6 will likely cost ~1M so I just left it since the numbers roughly cancel out. Would like to see them figure out how to utilize the Kaliyev/****emo type young players at some point..

D pairings can be changed around. Can put one of Gavy or Mikey with Clarke. Can try giving Spence someone with more mobility like Kylington. Someone that can actually keep up with the play. Getting tired of signing "shutdown" Dmen who are just synonymous with pylons, cuz Blake hasnt been able to ID a good one for a while.</div></div>

As long as we are unwilling to spend on better goaltending we need shutdown defensemen. We have been really fortunate signing or obtaining budget deals on Edler, Maata, Englund. But LA needs this generations Mitchell or Scuds to really go the distance in the playoffs.

I think our last chance to turn Kaliyev into a reclamation project was when they reupped Hiller, if he can somehow work in the new system, it's possible he stays. But I'd rather bet on connections we know have worked like PLD and Wheeler or Danault and Tatar. Really going to need Thomas, Turcotte, Spence, and Clarke to take the next step if LA wants to compete next season.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 10:26 a.m.
Thread: Toffoli Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Again, you're missing the point that right-handed guys and left-handed guys are not interchangeable. Left-handed guys CAN play on the right (and vice versa), but to quote Blake from the Durzi experiment, "it's not ideal." Especially after the press conference last week after announcing that Hiller was staying on as head coach and that the Kings are renewing their commitment to defense-first hockey, there's just no way that the Kings will run with two offense-first (if not offense only) guys on the right. There's only so much Doughty to go around, and he can't play all the PP1, PK1, and even strength minutes at age 35.

Take it to the bank. If Roy doesn't re-sign (which is far from a guarantee at this point), Blake will sign another defense-first right-handed defenseman.</div></div>

Like I said differences of opinion, and Blake has done some weird left turns. At this point I just want a good player to be paired with Clarke, I have no faith in an Englund-Clarke pairing.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:26 p.m.
Thread: Toffoli Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Matt Roy led the Kings in PK TOI by a large margin last season. If he's leaving, the Kings won't be expecting Spence to take over those minutes from him. Spence is a decent offensive defenseman, but he's not the defensive stalwart that Matt Roy is. The only way Spence is on this team next season is if the Kings want to give Clarke more time in the AHL.

A left-handed guy does not replace the need for a right-handed shutdown guy. If handedness mattered in any situation more than others, it would be on the PK where stick positioning is paramount.</div></div>

Gavrikov and Roy can both play shutdown roles, it isn't impossible for Gavrikov to return to that role while Spence moves up the line up.

If that doesn't work, Brodie has played effectively on both sides, he can play his role while allowing players to move up and take his role as RD2, to move him down to LD3 and mentor Clarke.

Spence was actually one of LAs few decent performers in the playoffs and actually moved up the lineup when it was required. In terms of a cheaper cost right shot defenseman, not sure LA could find a cheaper option with a still rising ceiling. After Blake has moved on from Faber, Walker, and Durzi. LA has finally depleted their large stock of right shot defensemen. Clarke and Spence would be a solid look into LAs future top-4 offensive defensemen as Doughty's career winds down. LA already has depth pieces in Englund and Moverare (one of which we won't send down). I think my viewpoint isn't LA looking to replace RD2, but get a LD3 who can move up to the PK as needed. (Similar to what Edler's role was)
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 8:18 p.m.
Thread: mixin it up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>I don’t see the Bruins wanting to allocate 5.8m to Gavrikov based on the way Lohrei played in the playoffs. That kid has top 4 written all over him.

Not sure why Blake would be pissed that Boston approached Ullmark about an interest in waiving and it got out that he said no. No way Boston leaked that with Don Sweeney as a GM. The only person that really breaks anything in Boston is Friedman. Almost every trade they’ve made in recent memory was kind of a stunner.</div></div>

I think it's more LA should be wary about making any options of players he'd be willing to move out for Ullmark as it was leaked and caused locker room strains reportedly.

Gavrikov isn't waiving his NMC, and Ullmark would have to remove LA from his 15 team NTC. It just doesn't seem in the stars. LA needs to focus elsewhere.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 7:41 p.m.
Thread: Toffoli Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>I don't think there's any way they go with both Spence and Clarke on the team next season. If Roy walks, the Kings will bring in a less expensive stay-at-home RHD. Unless they intend on playing one of Clarke or Spence on the left, I don't think Spence will be on the team next season. He'll be shipped out a la Durzi.</div></div>

We are going to have to agree to disagree there, Spence has done so much to impress this team and is actually somewhat capable on the defensive side of the puck from Durzi. In terms of LA Kings assets that could actually move into a top-4 role, Spence has to be the front runner. He also played against top-lines as Doughty's parter in the playoffs. I truly think there is room on this team (even if they don't go 11-7) for both Spence and Clarke. But I agree we need some sort of Roy replacement, Brodie can play both sides as a shutdown guy and eats big minutes. I think he answers a lot of question marks for us. Edmundson or Ian Cole could be options as well. but I think we need a shut-down defenseman who can play both sides.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:38 p.m.
Thread: i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>MTL literally has assets (that they could realistically move) at almost every single position (apart from maybe Center) that LA would be interested in. Matheson being one of them for sure. I think I agree with you though that they would be difficult trade partners. I don't see MTL wanting to move Matheson for just future assets (they still need vets on the team), which is why Danault would be my target. But obviously with LAK trying to contend, moving Danault is kind of counter-intuitive.

As for Danault being a LA guy now, you might be right. But I don't think he'd say no to a return to MTL. This was a reply a wrote in the thread where I did my trade suggestion for Danault:
"I think Danault would have zero issues coming back to MTL. He wanted to stay initially. The main reason he left was due to Bergevin and the bridges he burned with not believing he was a top 6 C, refusing to budge on the contract negotiations (Bergevin truly sucked a contracts...). Kind of ironic that Bergevin is in the LA organization lol"</div></div>

Matheson is essentially the same contract LA would give Roy if they could afford them. LA's cap woes is why below is probably how their defense will line up:

Anderson-Doughty
Gavrikov-Spence
$2M UFA (LD3)-Clarke

PLD playing poorly meant Danault took his role as 2C, if PLD wants it back he will have to take it from him, and even then LA will need Danault for his PK abilities and that Moore and FIala play great with him.
In terms of guys LA is willing to move from it's more likely: Lizotte, Grundstrom level guys. LA needs Danault with Kopitar set to retire in a few years, probably the least likely player LA would move on from.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 5:15 p.m.
Thread: i saw this and i love it from mtl perspective
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Blazingbat11</b></div><div>Not sure if you got it from me:

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/841880

But I had Beck involved in the deal as well.



Beck needing to be involved specifically for this reason. Beck's ceiling is basically a Danault / Cirelli type player. If LA are committed to PLD, and MTL can convince them to move Danault. Beck is the cost-effective investment / back up to eventually take up Danault's spot if PLD continues to struggle. MTL can afford to move him with Kapanen in their system. Alternatively, LA could prefer Kapanen over Beck. I have both as equal level prospects.</div></div>

LA and Montreal don't really have trades that cover what the other team needs. LA is focused on competing while Kopitar is with the team, which means Danault must be on the team as either the 2C or 3C, as both PLD and Byfield have not yet proven to be as effective in their 200 foot game. Danault (who has a NMC) is unlikely to leave LA during his contract, he is playing for a much more defensive team which has allowed him to better show his offensive game, unsure he wants to move even if there was an opportunity, his family, his house, he's an LA guy now.